Is funny launching bannable?

@nex-stargaze said in Is funny launching bannable?:

"Keg Rock"

This is a rock wall on FotD that players can use to stack several gunpowder barrels at, but also make them practically un-grabbable by hand. It essentially helps trivialize an already trivialized boss fight while also undoing the risk of having your ship sneakily blown up by tuckers with the idea to use the fort against you.

As far as I'm concerned, it's fair enough game and forces tuckers to play much more carefully around a crew that might know a thing or two.

"Funny launching"

As much as I've learned about this, this appears to be a sloop/brigantine exclusive issue where using your ship's ladders in an awkward way can result in your launching extremely far from your ship without the need to climb into your ship's cannon. Which some might find useful to get a surprise broad on an unsuspecting crew. This is not something I would support as it can completely destroy proper boarder defense preparations due to the lack of any notification that someone is trying to board you before they reach your ladder.

That is an actual exploit which needs looking into.

The being said, the report system is such an unfortunate joke that whether you do these things or not really doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things. You're worried that doing FotD quicker could be a cheating exploit because tuckers can't use the fort's kegs against you, I personally do not think that is a big deal. "Funny Launching" on the other hand is something that's worth reporting, and "bigger content creators" aren't doing that intentionally. Most partners, since they're already involved in PvP mostly, are usually the first and highest priority to report to Rare about certain glitches and exploits, and whether or not to use them on stream. If they're not a partner, they probably don't know or care about certain exploits being a serious problem, and their fate is bound to come to them eventually.

To add to the content creator part. Only content creator that I have seen doing it all the time is not partner. In fact he is perma banned and is in cycle of creating new account for nearly every session or video.

I would say the ladder launch is an exploit and should be reportable, as it can be used to board at angles and distances you otherwise wouldn't.

I wonder if a lot of speed hacking reports are actually abusers of this to get on ladder.

Only streamer I've seen use it is theb and from the looks of it, him noobface, breeze etc and that crew have had bans and often get banned for ban evasion on alts.

@slipkick01 said in Is funny launching bannable?:

@abjectarity Yes that's the keg rock. Except you may not have known that putting kegs there means that you can't take them out again.
So basically you get to use the kegs without the risk of enemies taking them and blowing up your ship. I would consider it an exploit. A more unfair one than funny launching because with funny launching it can at least be done by opposing crews to each other rather than being one sided.

Again, it isnt one sided as it is dependant on fps. It also nullifies the meaning on turning angles. It will stop people from getting away even when they are long gone from boarding distance.

You can just leave the kegs in a vault of fotd and get the same result with 0 exploits.
I dont even see how you can ecome to the conclusion that this is fair game or even comparable.

@triheadedmonkey come baaaaack! and lock the thread while you’re here, this is going nowhere productive. OP got their answer and now we’re all disputing it I guess.

Just don’t do exploits. Simple as that. You don’t drive over the speed limit to see if the cops will pull you over, you drive under it so they don’t have to (or if you’re one of those morally inclined people, to be safe and responsible).

@triheadedmonkey said in Is funny launching bannable?:

As a side note....not EVERYONE uses "keg rock" as I have no idea what that means.

Same. Although I'm sure asking the OP to explain an exploit on the official forum would be uncouth.

@slipkick01 said in Is funny launching bannable?:

@klutchxking518 I just don't really understand why people are saying not to do exploits when some previous exploits discovered by players are now features of the game.
I believe if Rare want to start banning people that use glitches then they should have a consistent no tolerance policy and only confine people to the features intended in the game.
They should add it to article 7 of the pirate code if they are against it.

I don't think using glitches that are in the game is driving over the speed limit. I would say cheating is of course.

Its fair to ask for zero tolerance policy or make it more clear, yes. But it's also imporntant to know where to draw the line.
It is not hard to see how this exploit is comparable to actual speedhack. It isnt like ads cancel that is going to occour natutally for people with decent movement. You have to go out of your way to do that.

There is a reason you only see blacklisted and banned creators doing it.

@triheadedmonkey said in Is funny launching bannable?:

YES, YEs, Yes, yessssssssss.

Thank you for this quote. There are so many issues with not just this game that this on simple answer will answer most if not all.

@slipkick01 said in Is funny launching bannable?:

@papatankers2041 Damn I didn't know all those content creates were blacklisted and banned, they don't have a banned on their YouTube channel that says they are blacklisted so there is no obvious way of knowing. If they are banned, I wouldn't even know what it is for, maybe they got banned for something else rather than glitching?

I wouldn't compare it to speed hacking, you can't instant board with it unless you deckshot similarly to a cannon. It doesn't teleport you up the ladder, you will still hear the splash for boarders.

Let me take a wild leap and say the content creators you are talking about are Theb and Noobface. I believe they were originally banned for using 120fov, but I cant really say for sure. They are now is cycle of creating a new account all the time. I assume they are getting redbearded for ban evasion.

And yes, it most def. is comparable to speed hacking. You can go multiple blocks with that exploit in mach10 and dolphin dive onto their boat. No splash needed.
Also the fact that afaik about speedhackers they are still making splashes also. There are direct paralels to be drawn here.

@papatankers2041 said in Is funny launching bannable?:

@slipkick01 said in Is funny launching bannable?:

@papatankers2041 Damn I didn't know all those content creates were blacklisted and banned, they don't have a banned on their YouTube channel that says they are blacklisted so there is no obvious way of knowing. If they are banned, I wouldn't even know what it is for, maybe they got banned for something else rather than glitching?

I wouldn't compare it to speed hacking, you can't instant board with it unless you deckshot similarly to a cannon. It doesn't teleport you up the ladder, you will still hear the splash for boarders.

Let me take a wild leap and say the content creators you are talking about are Theb and Noobface. I believe they were originally banned for using 120fov, but I cant really say for sure. They are now is cycle of creating a new account all the time. I assume they are getting redbearded for ban evasion.

And yes, it most def. is comparable to speed hacking. You can go multiple blocks with that exploit in mach10 and dolphin dive onto their boat. No splash needed.
Also the fact that afaik about speedhackers they are still making splashes also. There are direct paralels to be drawn here.

Thank you for the information . I will be looking out for this . Happy sails

@goldsmen I think he might be talking about how there is a glitch where people can basically remove the animation where the guns are switched, which makes it much faster to kill. This is bad because despite there being such a small change in weapon switching time, it gives whoever does it an unfair advantage to one who doesn't do it

@mysticshadowzx said in Is funny launching bannable?:

@goldsmen I think he might be talking about how there is a glitch where people can basically remove the animation where the guns are switched, which makes it much faster to kill. This is bad because despite there being such a small change in weapon switching time, it gives whoever does it an unfair advantage to one who doesn't do it

If thats what he meant, rare never re-added that, they tried to remove it but people have found a way to do it still.

@slipkick01 said in Is funny launching bannable?:

@goldsmen What do you mean people found a way? It is still the same technique as it was originally just slightly slower

Its harder now, thats what i mean. It was supposed to be fixed, but with the right timing it could still be done. Seeing as rare tried to fix it, its clear they dont want it in the game.