As the title states, I just came to the realization. That no matter how you sink while having the hourglass on, you get sent to another server. I can understand sinking during a rival battle, but sinking from a ship that is not a rival, or even just scuttling sends you to another server. I feel like this needs to be changed, cause when you stack a hoard of loot and die to a skeleship or just didn't notice a hole on your ship you still get moved to another server. That is rather outrageous in my opinion.
Sinking by any means with a hourglass on sends you to a new server
- Hourglass on
You sink, you get sent to a new server. That how it suppose to work. How you sink is up to you. By skeleton or silly forgot a hole
Hourglass doesn’t care.- Hourglass off
You sink, you stay on the server. Nothing changes here.
Just don’t sink if your using the hourglass. It a lesson. Practice. Determine
@burnbacon stop beeing a patreon to the SoT Forums, go play the game more.
but you figting somthing outside of the houreglass, and you are not invaded or in combat with a faction you shold still be able to get back to your loot or fight back after a sink, like the game have been since the start of the beta and alpha
@sirsilentgamer said in Sinking by any means with a hourglass on sends you to a new server:
As the title states, I just came to the realization. That no matter how you sink while having the hourglass on, you get sent to another server. I can understand sinking during a rival battle, but sinking from a ship that is not a rival, or even just scuttling sends you to another server. I feel like this needs to be changed, cause when you stack a hoard of loot and die to a skeleship or just didn't notice a hole on your ship you still get moved to another server. That is rather outrageous in my opinion.
I assume it works like this to prevent exploits involving sinking yourself or scuttling in order to remain on the same server even if you are about to lose.
The situation mentioned above where you get beached and respawn without losing your hourglass is a bug, I believe, since it can result in being placed outside of the hourglass zone and making it impossible for the other ship to leave without quitting or sinking.
@sirsilentgamer said in Sinking by any means with a hourglass on sends you to a new server:
As the title states, I just came to the realization. That no matter how you sink while having the hourglass on, you get sent to another server. I can understand sinking during a rival battle, but sinking from a ship that is not a rival, or even just scuttling sends you to another server. I feel like this needs to be changed, cause when you stack a hoard of loot and die to a skeleship or just didn't notice a hole on your ship you still get moved to another server. That is rather outrageous in my opinion.
Its working as intended.
@Morknag not a fault. People should know how the tools work. Also doesnt matter how long you've been here
I assume it works like this to prevent exploits involving sinking yourself or scuttling in order to remain on the same server even if you are about to lose.
What I am stating is to be sunk outside of a battle with a rival ship, not in it. Cause in the battle you should be sent to a new server regardless of how you sink. But outside of the battle you shouldn't be unless you are sunk by another rival ship out in the wild.
@d3adst1ck said in Sinking by any means with a hourglass on sends you to a new server:
@sirsilentgamer said in Sinking by any means with a hourglass on sends you to a new server:
As the title states, I just came to the realization. That no matter how you sink while having the hourglass on, you get sent to another server. I can understand sinking during a rival battle, but sinking from a ship that is not a rival, or even just scuttling sends you to another server. I feel like this needs to be changed, cause when you stack a hoard of loot and die to a skeleship or just didn't notice a hole on your ship you still get moved to another server. That is rather outrageous in my opinion.
I assume it works like this to prevent exploits involving sinking yourself or scuttling in order to remain on the same server even if you are about to lose.
The situation mentioned above where you get beached and respawn without losing your hourglass is a bug, I believe, since it can result in being placed outside of the hourglass zone and making it impossible for the other ship to leave without quitting or sinking.
It also helps to even the odds if it as an ambush and one of the crews in the ambush who is not the actual ship getting invaded sinks.
@captain-coel so tell me is it okay then that partnered SoT streamers are allowed to use macro (3rdparty programs) to make an macro to use in pvp to double gun and to get an easyier edge in the fight cos they know with this macro they know how to use how the "tools works" despite them beeing garbage in the game?
multiple partners and other players have been reported USING MACROS and cheats and they are still sitting in the game, having an advantage when they released the game they say we want it to be fare to all player, no xboxer can deal with a double gunner with a macro. becoasue the dont have the ability to make the "TOOL WORK" on xbox. this game is dying becouse of ppl not reading and moderators not removing cheaters
@morknag said in Sinking by any means with a hourglass on sends you to a new server:
@captain-coel so tell me is it okay then that partnered SoT streamers are allowed to use macro (3rdparty programs) to make an macro to use in pvp to double gun and to get an easyier edge in the fight cos they know with this macro they know how to use how the "tools works" despite them beeing garbage in the game?
multiple partners and other players have been reported USING MACROS and cheats and they are still sitting in the game, having an advantage when they released the game they say we want it to be fare to all player, no xboxer can deal with a double gunner with a macro. becoasue the dont have the ability to make the "TOOL WORK" on xbox. this game is dying becouse of ppl not reading and moderators not removing cheaters
There's quite a lot wrong with this argument.
- 3rd party programs are not tools provided by the game, they are prohibited.
- Partners and streamers who are using 3rd party tools and it can be proven should be banned just like anyone else.
- Moderators don't have anything to do with cheat enforcement
It also helps to even the odds if it as an ambush and one of the crews in the ambush who is not the actual ship getting invaded sinks.
What I am stating is to be sunk outside of a battle with a rival ship, not in it. Cause in the battle you should be sent to a new server regardless of how you sink. But outside of the battle you shouldn't be unless you are sunk by another rival ship out in the wild.
And this would do the exact same but keep you in the server if you died some other way than against a rival. Easiest solution would be to put a bit of code stating "If rival ship is nearby when sinking - True: Send to a new server"
there are multiple people reporting partners whit evidence and videos and they are still sitting htere playing the game with no slap on there rist, and more and more players see them playing with this and they start doing it, becouse no one is removing the people using macro and cheat program.
if you have played the last season, and done some pvp invading or getting invaded, you do se an increase in people beeing able to jump shoot with a sniper and before they land shoot you with a blunder, you can se ALOT of partners doing to also, but reporting them with twitch clip, youtube vedeos or other proofs wont get them removed hence making more people using macros to get and edge in the battle of the seas.
back to topic, the problem sirsilentgamer mention is if you get sunk by any means OUTSIDE of the hourglass fight, if you have an hourglass on you get merged, that shold not be the case, and that is whay he is trying to say
@morknag said in Sinking by any means with a hourglass on sends you to a new server:
@captain-coel so tell me is it okay then that partnered SoT streamers are allowed to use macro (3rdparty programs) to make an macro to use in pvp to double gun and to get an easyier edge in the fight cos they know with this macro they know how to use how the "tools works" despite them beeing garbage in the game?
multiple partners and other players have been reported USING MACROS and cheats and they are still sitting in the game, having an advantage when they released the game they say we want it to be fare to all player, no xboxer can deal with a double gunner with a macro. becoasue the dont have the ability to make the "TOOL WORK" on xbox. this game is dying becouse of ppl not reading and moderators not removing cheaters
I play with many many people capable of executing the hotswap without the needs for a macro. If you can not see them hitting their keys, reporting people means nothing.
But if you want back on topic. No Hourglass On = Sink and get a new server. This is intended.
@captain-coel
so you have eyes on your friends hands at all time, good for you.humans are lazy, doing that 100% of the time in anny situations is impossible, good for you to keep your eyes on your friends hands
@morknag see my friends want to teach me. we do tdms and have a blast.
Sounds like you are salty about getting killed. If there was actual evidence of streamers using macros it would be one thing. But all your talking about is hearsay.
@captain-coel all im talking about is people using an exploit to skip intended animations to get an advantage, take your hearsay back to the amber/johny deep case and find a reason to blame people for not explioting a system and tell them to make it fare they need to exploit
@morknag a while back Rare hard coded a 1 second delay between shots. The double gun exploit was way worse before that.
@captain-coel its still bad, cos peole are using an exploit to cansele animations WHO IS NOT INTENDED, and most lazy people use macro cos they don't want to push the combo to exploit the system, get an xbox or playstation controller and do the same, or fight some one using this exploit while your on an controller and tell me its fair game to exploit
@captain-coel go back to the beta/alpha and launche of the game, double gunning was never intended, and now with ppl like you defending using an exploite to win in pvp shows no skills
@morknag I started in the last beta. Started retail on day 1. I know people that have been using two guns since year 1.
@captain-coel according to your forum profile, you have not so, woop.
I'm done trying to talk to a person who seems it fit to use exploits in ways to win pvp in a game who is set to want to balance between consoles.
all you want is easy pvp with your garbage exploits to win battles easy because you are not able to calculate battles with sword and guns, you feel the need to be supreme to others with your exploits, just because you cant handle being tactical with a sword and gun how the game was intended.
you cant even understand that using an animation cancel or skip or what you want to call it is wrong against the policy of xbox and SoT because they don't want to stop the people like you to play the game normally
I'm done conversating with a cheater who can't understand they are exploiting the game for there own gain
@morknag said in Sinking by any means with a hourglass on sends you to a new server:
@captain-coel according to your forum profile, you have not so, woop.
I'm done trying to talk to a person who seems it fit to use exploits in ways to win pvp in a game who is set to want to balance between consoles.
all you want is easy pvp with your garbage exploits to win battles easy because you are not able to calculate battles with sword and guns, you feel the need to be supreme to others with your exploits, just because you cant handle being tactical with a sword and gun how the game was intended.
you cant even understand that using an animation cancel or skip or what you want to call it is wrong against the policy of xbox and SoT because they don't want to stop the people like you to play the game normally
I'm done conversating with a cheater who can't understand they are exploiting the game for there own gain
Founder is tech alpha, not beta. Sorry.
Also I'm a controller player so animation canceling is annoying. Mostly I just shoot people with cannons or my blunderbuss.
I am very aware of what animation canceling is. You seem misinformed on how it works and how it was coded against when it was called DGE.
@meatball3448868 When a stamp is dying or there isn't another spot on a server in the stamp is when I believe we see this happening
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