After spending hours gathering treasure and getting to emissary grade 5, someone comes along, sinks your ship and steals your flag. You spend a while hunting them down and engaging in an long battle. Eventually you win and get your flag back, but now it's worthless and your loots value is heavily reduced. This lessens the incentive to engage in battle. Imagine the feeling of reattaching an emissary grade 5 flag after a successful, drawn out battle! It is rewarding for the players and gives them a feeling of accomplishment.
Reattach flag if recovered after taking it back from ship that stole it.
someone comes along, sinks your ship and steals your flag.
Happens. But the likely hood of you recovering flag is very low.
Due to- they leave it in the water to sink
- or they deliver it to reapers before you can fight back.
Chance you retrieving it is slim but as a business/faction. You losing the flag to begin with is bad and shouldn’t be rewarded for returning it broken just to reattach it.
@scurvywoof said in Reattach flag if recovered after taking it back from ship that stole it.:
Why would any of the companies allow a disgraced pirate to raise their flag again after losing it?
A lil duck tape cleverly painted in wood colour and nobody need ever know. What happens out on the high seas stays on the high seas.
@burnbacon said in Reattach flag if recovered after taking it back from ship that stole it.:
You losing the flag to begin with is bad and shouldn’t be rewarded for returning it broken just to reattach it.You're not being rewarded for losing it; you're just stealing it back. This is literally no different than stealing back chests that the Reaper took from you. This community will go out of its way to shoot down any idea that would improve the game, but I guarantee if something like this just showed up in patch notes, the forums would praise Rare for their genius.
The issue with the current system is that you have no care about taking your own flag back outside of spiting the other crew. Spite alone isn't a good motivator for the sandbox. No one is happy in that situation. The Reaper is mad because they got something stolen from them that was done purely to make them mad and not to the other crew's benefit, and the other crew is mad because they get nothing out of the victory at all other than irking the Reaper.
Levels to Emissary 5
Scuttle, (and of course you're going say it shouldn't work for scuttle) ram a rock, sit in the rain a bit.
Oh NO nOtMyFlAg!
Recover flag.
Stack loot without an extra target on your back.
Reattach flag before turning in.
Profit 2.5x.We also point out ways it can be exploited. If Rare introduced this I would call it stupid just like buying supplies is stupid.
@pithyrumble sagte in Reattach flag if recovered after taking it back from ship that stole it.:
If Rare introduced this I would call it stupid just like buying supplies is stupid.
This ☝️
Ah, good catch. I never would have thought to just leave the flag on board and attach when ready to sell. I'm usually the first one to come up with possible exploits, too.
@scurvywoof said in Reattach flag if recovered after taking it back from ship that stole it.:
Why would any of the companies allow a disgraced pirate to raise their flag again after losing it?
Youre right. if you loose an emissary flag you should be banned from working for that trade company again for a whole month. this sounds like a better option
@magus104 I can only tell you’re being sarcastic because you’ve upvoted OP’s post.
You know damn well what I meant. OP’s post is a bad idea.I like the idea, thought the same multiple times alrdy. Noone would ever know if u recovered it and reattached it.
And even if so, it would mean u even fight back for a flag for your emissary's honor even after dieing for it, being willing to die for it again. That should pretty much even out the primary losing of the flag on another pirate.
This should not be such a big deal as to "honor" of the emissary anyway, as the whole sea is basically a pirate's paradise, and everyone knows that.There could be ways implemented to minimize abuse, like the flag needs to have been lost in a fight, and not via friendly fire/scuttle, or that another player from another ship needs to
steal it first (u can only reattach if u retrieve the flag from another players ship), stuff like that. Im sure it wouldnt be too hard to monitor that,Lotta people here acting like this is an RP Game and that
''you should not be able to because you would be disgraced in the eyes of the company'.'
I then raise;
''You should be able to reraise it, maybe with a reduced level or so, as the company commends your unrelenting dedication to return to your opponent, now at the disadvantage of fresh supplies, in a successful attempt to reclaim the Companies treasure. You could've just left, but no, you said that you are going to get that Gold Horder his loot no matter the cost. You are NOT going to return empty handed, you will do whatever it takes to make your Company proud''
My point is fancy words apply own both sides and any RP reason is pointless.
Also the idea that ''You should pay a penalty to your employers for disgracing their flag.'' Is pretty dumb because like, they didn't lose anything. You paid them money for the voyage. The Company didn't have the loot to begin with and still don't when you lose. They can offer that voyage to other people still, all they lost was that little dinky Emissary Flag but also got your gold for the voyage.
I think it'd be fine if you could re-attach your own flag if you manage to reacquire it as you managed to find who killed you and defeat them. Maybe you lose a level or two from your grade, so grade 5 goes down to grade 4 or 3. And anything under Grade 3 cannot be Reattached as it'd just go down to Grade 1 and do nothing.
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@scurvywoof said in Reattach flag if recovered after taking it back from ship that stole it.:
Why would any of the companies allow a disgraced pirate to raise their flag again after losing it?
Youre right. if you loose an emissary flag you should be banned from working for that trade company again for a whole month. this sounds like a better option
NO!
How shall reapers then collect enough flags? nah let them raise a new one... and another one...
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