just had an idea so i'm sharing it (even if it will never come)

They should let you buy AC for gold.

1 AC = 10,000 gold

So 1000 AC = 10,000,000

So it is still and grind and people will pay actual money still. But this way, people can be rewarded for PLAYING THE GAME. And not for opening their wallets and spending their salaries on non-tangible garbage nice cosmetics.

#IHateMonetisation

I feel like the whole situation with ancient coins is pretty OK, EXCEPT the amount you get from the plunder pass. Every other game I can think of will give you a full refund with extra premium currency to spare if you buy the paid track of their pass.

Except SoT.

I honestly don't really understand why they refuse to make this a thing, it looks greedy from both perspectives of a new player and dedicated players. I get that it's an optional purchase, but when a majority of cosmetics are going into the emporium and plunder pass, I can't help but feel like they're just juicing money out of me at every turn.

@gallerine5582 The difference is in other games the paid pass gives you unique cosmetics. In Sea of Thieves the paid pass gives you a discount on upcoming emporium items. The best past of this pass is free.

Alliance servers licking their chops.

Any farmable ancient coin idea is quickly dispatched by the sheer existence of manufactured alliance servers.

@captain-coel said in just had an idea so i'm sharing it (even if it will never come):

@gallerine5582 The difference is in other games the paid pass gives you unique cosmetics.

Yes that is true

In Sea of Thieves the paid pass gives you a discount on upcoming emporium items. The best past of this pass is free.

No. It's all smoke and mirrors. You say the 'best part' is free. It's not. You get a few cosmetics, sure. But 90/100 levels are just piles of gold and Doubloons. It's a huge illusion. It's a good deal, yes, but its whole existence is completely forced, and to be honest, a slap in the face to dedicated players who are essentially being told that they fancy cosmetics aren't obtained by being good at the game, but by having money.

@captain-coel said in just had an idea so i'm sharing it (even if it will never come):

@gallerine5582 The difference is in other games the paid pass gives you unique cosmetics. In Sea of Thieves the paid pass gives you a discount on upcoming emporium items. The best past of this pass is free.

Tbf that kinda works against your point; you get early access to it, the set isn't even exclusive its just early access to what will come back in a couple months or so

@targasbr Sea of Thieves is essentially just Free Market: The Video Game, so even though their method isn't the most admirable/enjoyable, it happens.

And if they happen to be more successful than others, it just means those other, less-successful players need to pull themselves up by their bootstraps.

Otherwise we just all get bogged down with regulation, right?

I disagree heavily. The free plunder pass gives the exclusive stuff and even premium currency. 250 ancient coins you were supposed to purchase and got for free.

Then there is a tiny bit of extra items which come with the paid plunder pass. If you really want them, you purchase 10€ / $ worth of ancient coins and get back 250 coins from it again. In the end you get 250 coins for free, 250 coins from the paid pass which will end you up with -500 ancient coins for a 3 month long season pass. Thats like 5 € / $. Come on.

If you play SOT actively enough, you will get Ancient Skeletons from time to time as well. And even if not: The items from the paid pass are coming to the emporium one or two seasons later for you to purchase full price if you really want them.

Another thing: The last (christmas) season pass actually contained 250 free ancient coins and another 750(!) for the paid one. So you could actually "break even" if you purchased it and end up with 1000 coins to spend for the next pass or however you want to.

Full emporium ship sets plus outfits will easily cost you around 3000+ ancient coins. Comparing that with the 500 ancient coins for the paid plunder pass its very very reasonable.

Other games usually work the complete opposite way: All the stuff (good and bad) is completely locked behind the paywall with a few freebies every 5-10 levels or so. But the majority is paid and never comes back.

The whole season pass is basically a "voluntary support the developer" thing right now instead of the pure cash grab that other game developers are designing their passes. Its relatively fair and you don't miss out on exclusive items. They will be released later and more expensive.

Last but not least: I have over 200 million gold. And I do notplay alliance servers so thats not too hard to obtain. According to your calculation, that would mean free 20.000 Ancient Coins for me and everyone farming gold.

That would mean a significant decrease in Ancient Coins purchases which again results in a decreased income. That will never pay off. Premium currency is a way to compensate for continuous development, updates, bugfixing, QoL, staff, marketing, server and maybe even Disney licensing cost that this game creates and can most likely not be entirely backed up by the initial 40 bucks full game sale alone. At least not forever.

@sweetsandman i actually agreeso yea rip

@shifty189 said in just had an idea so i'm sharing it (even if it will never come):

it has been said before and i'll say it again. Its more of a way to support the game we all love. I'll buy the pass every season no matter what is in it just to do my part to keep this game alive.

One very good reason to not buy the plunder pass: I don't like ugly items messing up my clothing / shipwreight chest orders. The skins take their time to load and I have to remember where my favourite weapons are to just click them by memory before the thumbnails do load.

I will not buy a plunder pass "just to support" if it gives me an actual disadvantage. High level complaint here, but on the other hand it can't be that hard to create custom filters, favourite weapons / items / clothing / equipment being shown on page 1 or just saving custom loadouts for ship sets and custom outfits. I'm not a game dev. I know. But it can't be that hard to save a certain combination of clothing / item IDs as an outfit. I don't know how many players I talked to that randomly dropped how they wish there was a "save outfit" option. But its 4 years later and we don't have it.

Weird reason to not buy ingame stuff, but thats my personal thing and I cant handle it. I would even wish that I could create a ticket asking Rare to remove certain items (season pass or free) from my inventory, like the seasoned parrot cutlass for example. Because hiding items from inventory also does not exist.

Sorry for ranting here, but for me thats a good reason to not purchase a plunder pass. I don't want to be forced to carry more "unwanted" items in my chest thats never being used.