A new currency - Ideas/thoughts

  • Ahoy,

    The gold and doubloons have lost their values a bit for me. This is mainly because these coins can be obtained in more ways and the coins are farmable.

    Back in the day, doubloons and the Chest of Legend were special. This was because doubloons were only available through commendations and the Chest of Legend was the only way to level up Atena's Fortune, so doubloons and the Chest of Legend were special to have. Now you have multiple ways to level Atena's Fortune and to get doubloons. This is good on one hand, so more people can get them, but on the other hand it takes away the specialness.

    Now I had the idea to add a new coin that can only be gotten through one way and is not farmable and maybe also that it will be different every time you want to go for the coin so that you have variety instead of doing the same thing over and over again.

    An idea example I quickly came up with was to link the new coin to the global event with a monthly leaderboard. Then you have to kill as many skeletons as possible and if you are in the top 10% you get 5 coins, if you are in the top 30% you get 3 coins, if you are in the top 50% you get 2 coins and if you are in the 75% you get 1 coin. With these coins you can buy for example super cool cosmetics. The goal for the event changes every month to a new challenge, keeping variety in it and also to make the coin not farmable.

    I'm curious if you think such an idea is a good or bad idea and if you have other ideas for the coin.

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  • @jtye-b this feels like a different version of the Emissary system that we have.

    I know what you mean by the Doubloons feeling worth less in our day and age, but I would personally love to see more uses with Doubloons rather than a new type of currency.

    I still personally value the Chest of Legends on the other hand. Just because it’s still relatively rare and still gives the best rep for AF. Hopefully we’ll see some sort of expansion for AF soon that’ll help with that sort of concern.

  • Ahoy @ninja-naranja,

    This is true:

    @jtye-b this feels like a different version of the Emissary system that we have.

    I wanted to give an example so that other people can get an idea of what I mean.

    I agree with you on this:

    I know what you mean by the Doubloons feeling worth less in our day and age, but I would personally love to see more uses with Doubloons rather than a new type of currency.

    I would also like to be able to use my doubloons more, the only problem I have with that is that players can farm doubloons and then eventually it will lose his values.

  • Why add new currency when you already stated the current ones are useless? Why not give current currencies more use? I have 11k doubloons and nothing to spend them on. Doubloons are already used for cosmetics. Ancient coins are used for even more exclusive cosmetics.

  • Ahoy @darkechoes6494,

    I agree with you, we can also give current currencies more value, by for example being able to buy more cosmetics. The only thing I have with this is that players can farm this.

    it also partly has to do with the values of the loot you have. As an example with the Chest of legend, the Chest of Legend was just so special to have and to steal because there was only one way to get it and to level up Atena's Fortune.

    Another example is the Reaper's Chest, the idea was good that you could get doubloons that way, but eventually it became so easy for the player to farm the doubloons due to the Reaper's Chest, that for me the value went away.

    Another example idea could be that you have to do a new event just like Flameheart and when you have done the event you get one chest that gives the new coin. The problem with this again is that players can farm it, so then there has to be something so player can't do this, but I don't know what 😄

    And speaking of Ancient coins, Ancient coins can be bought with real money and is not what I meant.

  • Personally instead of having a new coin added, I'd like to see a bit more value/use for the current ones. As for the CoL, I do believe this needs to be buffed a little, as back in the day this was such a valuable item, and even now it does take some work to get it, whether it be from the voyages or FotD/FoF.

  • @jtye-b I just don't see how you're going to make more exclusive cosmetics. Most cosmetics are locked behing commendations, then the next wall is doubloons, and behind that are ancient coins? How do you get more exclusive than this? Just sounds redundant and pointless. There's only so many cosmetics that and be designed. Unless you're willing to volunteer your time designing cosmetics.

  • @darkechoes6494 said in A new currency - Ideas/thoughts:

    @jtye-b I just don't see how you're going to make more exclusive cosmetics. Most cosmetics are locked behing commendations, then the next wall is doubloons, and behind that are ancient coins? How do you get more exclusive than this? Just sounds redundant and pointless. There's only so many cosmetics that and be designed. Unless you're willing to volunteer your time designing cosmetics.

    Maybe I didn't explain what I mean very well, sorry.

    My intent with this topic is about the values of specific item/coins that can only be gotten one way, like back in the day with the old Chest of Legend. Because now you have so many ways to get the Chest of Legend and to level up Athena's Fortune, that the values that the chest had, has gone away.

    For this I'm giving an idea to bring this feeling back and I came up with the idea to add a new coin, because if you add a new specific chest that gives gold again, then it just becomes a different way to get gold. This could be compared to the Chest of Ancient Tributes.

    About the idea with the new coin and being able to spend it on something doesn't necessarily have to be cosmetics, it can also be something else, but this was just an example idea, because I don't know what else you want to spend it on at the moment.

  • I'd prefer to not have 4 separate currencies. For me it makes more sense to wrangle in our current coin value than just keep adding more. It feels lazy as well as bad design to implement a new currency when the ones you have get out of control.

  • @nabberwar said in A new currency - Ideas/thoughts:

    I'd prefer to not have 4 separate currencies. For me it makes more sense to wrangle in our current coin value than just keep adding more. It feels lazy as well as bad design to implement a new currency when the ones you have get out of control.

    I agree, I don't want another new currency either, but because it's so easy to get coins now, that the solution currently being used is to use a gold sink.

    The thing with a gold sink is that the value of the item stays the same, the item doesn't become worth more than it already was. The only thing that changes is that players have a way to spend their money on. Therefore my idea that I have at the moment is to add a new coin, so that the value and the feeling that the coin gives to something remains instead of becoming an extra option to get gold.

  • @jtye-b said in A new currency - Ideas/thoughts:

    @darkechoes6494 said in A new currency - Ideas/thoughts:

    @jtye-b I just don't see how you're going to make more exclusive cosmetics. Most cosmetics are locked behing commendations, then the next wall is doubloons, and behind that are ancient coins? How do you get more exclusive than this? Just sounds redundant and pointless. There's only so many cosmetics that and be designed. Unless you're willing to volunteer your time designing cosmetics.

    Maybe I didn't explain what I mean very well, sorry.

    My intent with this topic is about the values of specific item/coins that can only be gotten one way, like back in the day with the old Chest of Legend. Because now you have so many ways to get the Chest of Legend and to level up Athena's Fortune, that the values that the chest had, has gone away.

    For this I'm giving an idea to bring this feeling back and I came up with the idea to add a new coin, because if you add a new specific chest that gives gold again, then it just becomes a different way to get gold. This could be compared to the Chest of Ancient Tributes.

    About the idea with the new coin and being able to spend it on something doesn't necessarily have to be cosmetics, it can also be something else, but this was just an example idea, because I don't know what else you want to spend it on at the moment.

    Those days are gone. What has been done can not be changed. What you seek is nostalgia. There are already dozens of cosmetics that go unused regardless of what currency you use to buy them. Doubloons were already redundant, served their purpose and are now useless. You said you don't even know what to spend spend these new coins on so why add them? All we've ever been able to spend currency on is cosmetics and voyages, so I don't know what else you spend them on. Instead of being able to farm new currencies to the their death, why not do whats already being done and lock cosmetics behind commendations? Seems to me you would need to "farm" this chest anyways.

  • @darkechoes6494 said in A new currency - Ideas/thoughts:

    Those days are gone. What has been done can not be changed. What you seek is nostalgia.

    I know those days are gone and I know I can't change them, that's why I come up with an idea to bring it back.

    There are already dozens of cosmetics that go unused regardless of what currency you use to buy them.

    This doesn't mean that we can't get the old feeling back.

    Doubloons were already redundant, served their purpose and are now useless.

    Doubloons were/are not redundant, they were something new than gold and that was the good thing about doubloons, they are just easier to get now so it has gone more the way of gold, so the feeling went a bit away for me that something specifically gives doubloons.

    You said you don't even know what to spend spend these new coins on so why add them? All we've ever been able to spend currency on is cosmetics and voyages, so I don't know what else you spend them on.

    This doesn't mean the idea is bad, because I don't know any other way to spend the coin than on cosmetics.

    Instead of being able to farm new currencies to the their death, why not do whats already being done and lock cosmetics behind commendations?

    It's good that cosmetics are locked behind commendations, but this has nothing to do with bringing back the old feeling of having an item that can only be gotten one way.

  • I know some people think 4 currencies is a little excessive, so maybe an idea is that at some point rare gives everyone a 3 month warning that all doubloons will be converted into gold and there is a double gold event that happens so that everyone can convert their doubloons for maximum value. Then they make current doubloon cosmetics cost gold and bring back the old system with them being only unlocked through commendations. Maybe also then give the number of doubloons the player would have earned from their comendations to them so that they don't have access to fewer doubloons because they played before that update

  • Ahoy @jojo-buddy-v2,

    I really like your idea of resetting the doubloons so that we don't need a fourth currencie and that way we get the old feeling of the doubloons back.

    I was thinking with you and unfortunately I came up with one problem 😕
    The problem I ran into is that when the doubloons are resetted that then the items in the game that gives doubloons remain and will eventually result in the same thing we have now.

    A solution could be for the idea you have, to change something with the doubloons items, but I'm not sure about that.

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