Alliance Servers

I'm of the opinion that people should be allowed to play the game how they want with the tools they have been given. If they want to play the game in a 'safe space' and they put the effort in to create an alliance server then crack on. I also don't think they are as active as some people claim! The Dev's have said they are monitoring the situation as it's not how the game was designed to be played, so if they were a massive problem, the Dev's would do something!

What I disagree with (and most people in this topic) is the reward system in an alliance. I believe it should simply be split between the total number of ships in said alliance. That way the economy of the game isn't impacted as much and thus the casual players won't be as effected by over inflated prices.

If there was an issue with Alliance Servers they would have been nerfed. They nerf things they don't like. Speed dig and bail. Or remember when you could avoid server merges by not dropping anchors? They want player interaction. Alliance servers are interacting. You're just mad someone is making money easier than you.

have to disagree…they are created and used because of how the game is..since most people just want to sink ships and not care about the grind it forces people who just want to grind to find alliance servers…unfortunately rare created pve grinds in a pvp based game with 0 outlets for people who want to focus on grinding voyages so people join alliance servers…who wants to be followed for hrs? no one…who wants to keep battling ships while trying to complete voyages? no one but yet we are forced too lol see the issue? if there wasnt toxic people just looking to sink for no reason maybe things could be different…look at reapers…apparently to most if you run reapers you must sink ships…when in reality you can literally do voyages, world events, etc and get your emissary up and etc…they way i see it is if you want to sink ships go to arena…however i im told thats not where you go for pvp lol even though thats the precise play you should go

@madfrito99 it's PvPvE and what this all boils down to is people not wanting to play down the middle and let others have a good time. There are some who want others to play, what they feel is their game, the way they want them to and are convinced they're having a bad time because they won't.

Sea of ​​Thieves does not have an economy system that affects any player. There is no public auction where "Rich Players" can buy things at very high prices.

Each player's money has only one use, to buy skins. Skins that do not affect the gameplay, so no matter how rich you are, the reputation you have, it does not affect the gameplay at all.

The alliance servers exist because of Rare and its community, it treats new players very badly (70% abandonment before 100 hours of gameplay) leaving them at the mercy of the jackals and abusers that are in the seas.

"The game is Pvpve." Correct, nobody denies it, we simply separate the Pve from the Pvp, which is currently legal, because alliances are allowed by RARE.

If I want to do PvP, I go to arena mode and we kill each other there, but I don't want to spend 4 hours of my life (We only have 1) for a stranger and his 3 friends with numerical advantage to steal all my loot and make me feel like I wasted those hours making a fool of myself.

I do not understand your anger, if you like doing pvp so much, do it. We do not want to be the object of abuse or ridicule, we do not bother anyone, the people who enter the alliances do so voluntarily, no one has forced them, except yourselves abusing the weak.

I return to my pirate duties, undisturbed by anyone.

Greetings to all

So many people missing the bigger picture here. Remember Merchant Commodities? Yeah, the really cool high risk, high reward mechanic that got nerf'd to oblivion and now is just a book on a table by the Merchant that collects dust. Those got ruined because of alliance servers. Even worse, we won't get to see a high risk high reward OOS system, GH system, or Athena system because of alliance servers.

I'll stress again, what needs fixed is not the PvE only experience that they deliver. They want to play that way, go for it. As long as you're coming back to the game and enjoying yourself, go for it. What needs fixed is the alliance reward system. It's beyond excessive and limits what can be introduced to the game because of alliance servers.

the problem i see is there doesnt need to always be a high risk scenario….why is it so wrong to just want to grind in a video game? its like we are horrible people for wanting to do so

@targasbr

There is a lot to do in this Game, you are right, the Big problem here is that all this content must be done with a huge Risk of loosing all the progress. Maybe you have all the day to play, in my case, I just can play 7-8 hours per week due to my job and my kids, And I want to progress, so I must play this servers because I don't like PvP and I play solo, all my friends left SOT due to griefing and not progressing.

If players could sink me but a % of all my reptuation and money stays with me, I'll be the first playing on adventure Mode, but is not the case and I do not have time and patience (And I don't like PvP) to such thing.

I dont care about being a fake PL or something like that, I just enjoy stacking loot with others and that is what Ally does so IMO is the only way to play Sot for a long time and enjoy the Game.

@targasbr

If I do lets say... Flameheart and I get sink after looting the raid, I Loose the loot and the rep that comes for selling that loot, this means 100% of every posible progress.

Is not the kind of adventure that I want to live on my pirate story. I know that "Risk - Reward" mechanic is important to them, but I am already taking a Risk trying to do that raid as solo slooper without too much experience, I don't need the aditional Risk of being sunk by other players with numerical advantage and a bigger ship and crew.

Sorry, but I don't like that frustration feeling anymore while playing a videogame, I found a way to enjoy Sot a lot and I Will use It untill Rare decides to destroy that Sanctuary, when they do, I'll leave Looking for another Game to have fun without dealing with people Who only wants to make others suffer.

@elci-poteh said in Alliance Servers:

@targasbr

If I do lets say... Flameheart and I get sink after looting the raid, I Loose the loot and the rep that comes for selling that loot, this means 100% of every posible progress.

Is not the kind of adventure that I want to live on my pirate story. I know that "Risk - Reward" mechanic is important to them, but I am already taking a Risk trying to do that raid as solo slooper without too much experience, I don't need the aditional Risk of being sunk by other players with numerical advantage and a bigger ship and crew.

Sorry, but I don't like that frustration feeling anymore while playing a videogame, I found a way to enjoy Sot a lot and I Will use It untill Rare decides to destroy that Sanctuary, when they do, I'll leave Looking for another Game to have fun without dealing with people Who only wants to make others suffer.

Perhaps as a solo and inexperienced pirate don't do a long and server-wide quest ?

If you take longer than "normal", that may alert other pirates that you would be easier to beat, thus worth it to steal from instead of joining you instead.

There are a lot of other things to do, you could try to find a teammate or try to find another crew to do it together.

@lem0n-curry

For that reason I play on this servers, I am an easy target to veteran players, that means I have a Big chance of loosing all my progress and get super frustrated again, As I used to be when I have been playing Adventure Mode.

This is the only way to play the Game for me and enjoy it, No progess loosing, No griefing, No 4-3-2 vs 1 with less exp and no PvP. Is just the perfect Sea of Thieves for me, PvE experience without fear or frustration.

I am sorry for that people Who hates Alliances because they can't grief and steal that players, but a huge amount of people doesnt want to be abused and they are joining this Community with a lot of players per day to enjoy Sea of Thieves and have fun sailing with Friendly people.

It's not new that I hear about alliance servers and how this is for people who just want to "play a game to relax"

The problem this inflicts is the high values it generates, thus breaking the economy within the game.
Like this? Why do you think that items appeared that cost more than 35 millions added together?

Obviously Rare already has its eye on people who take advantage of this to farm and make more and more money in-game using the precept of "We're making friends", "It's just because we want to have fun without sinking", but in reality it is just ego involved.

(Btw: Said by them in podcast that they don't like this attitude of alliance between several boats and they disapprove of the same)

The idea of a PIRATE game is that eventually you will either be robbed or sunk by another PIRATE. Same thing for a PVE server, will it just be doing the sky event without the danger of being robbed? Totally clueless.

Yes. Yes. Yes.

Sea of Thieves is barely alive though so this move might finally pull the plug.

@iceman-d18 said in Alliance Servers:

The Dev's have said they are monitoring the situation

The Dev's also said fixing hit reg was a key priority, LOL.

@pithyrumble said in Alliance Servers:

If there was an issue with Alliance Servers they would have been nerfed. They nerf things they don't like. Speed dig and bail. Or remember when you could avoid server merges by not dropping anchors? They want player interaction. Alliance servers are interacting. You're just mad someone is making money easier than you.

They would still be interacting out of alliance servers. You're just mad because you can barely live in a PvP situation. xD

@capt-soul-beard

Keep telling yourself that 😘

@illbushido305 This is neither accurate nor true. Why should alliance servers be nerfed when there's already a huge problem with a toxic culture on this game? Players are jerks just because they can be; they'll sink fresh ships with nothing to gain. They'll spawn kill players with no intention of sinking your ship. They'll abuse mechanics such as portal hopping in a desperate attempt to pick a fight with no downside to them.

Making generalizations about players in alliance servers is not an argument.

As a general response to this post, Rare better not even think about nerfing alliacne servers before they address the rampant toxicity within their playerbase.