The CURSES are Not CURSES; but Skin!. REEDITED: don't like the original OP? what du you think about the edited idea at the OP bottom? :)

  • I have to admit, I'm a bit surprise how curses in SoT have no any work put on it. This team of dev are the most creative I know and curses are just skins... nothing else. Hard to believe this is the dev choice to do so...
    I know SoT as an horizontal progressions system but:

    What if we had real curse to the game ?(skeleton for example)
    -when we die we could become a bone mess on a floor... a min after we raise up again like the skelly turtle in "Mario" XD.
    -Been cursed would means; the ship get a no customable skin too, with a default curse skin.
    -Cursed Players cant be under sun without get damage or cant swim.
    -It would be NO MORE PROGRESSION available for the Cursed (no more season pass level up, no grind possible),

    The only way out would be to remove the curse by doing a specific quest...

    ( Curses mechanics could be totally different than what I suggest of course, this one is highly inspired.),

    But please, would be great to have "REAL CURSES" curse in this pirate game!!! "NOT REMOVABLE AT WILL SKINS FROM A DRESS CHEST".
    People will love it first for the gamplay, then they will be highly handicapted by it, as they can't go further in the progress system.
    Players would really fell cursed... and the need to remove it.
    (If "pros" need to be add to it, it need to be lesser than the "cons" to stay a curse)

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    The change for pros and cons of abilities, for a curse, are not accepted by peoples scared of balance, even if the the cons are much higher, (opposite would be a blessing not a curse)...
    -So we ended saying curse would just be cosmetic. BUT NOT REMOVABLE AT WILL FROM THE CHEST. to remove the curse, Pirates would need to do a "Healing, Cure" quest, or even BETTER: do again the tall tail quest involving the Curse. It will bring, a new good reason to do them over.
    (There is no good reason to redo tall tail quests actually)
    And this proceeded would respect the real term of a "Curse" and it's definition's).

    Example:
    Want wear the curse skin?... do the quest!.
    I want to remove it? ... i redo the quest!.
    I want wear it back ?... i reredo the quest! ... etc.

    What the new thoughts of this edited version of the Curse? :)

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  • @kermar-tutu

    If the curses actually had pros/cons then that would ruin the core of Sea of Thieves.

  • @itz-majman nope they wont

  • u seem not not understand wut horizontal progression mean. its means theres no way to get better or worse gear, and to suggest it as a pay to win item. just no

  • @kermar-tutu said in THE CURSES ARE NOT CURSES BUT SKIN.:

    @itz-majman nope they wont

    🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    Wrong! 🙃

  • @kermar-tutu yea it will ruin it. if somone boards your ship with your curse and you have to hit them with 3 eor shots or 6 sword hits the chance of you getting hit regged itmuch higher, the game is gonna be full of people calling people hackers because it took 5 eor shots

  • @doomscorp I do understand ... but if u take out all the progression, all the goal, it will remain a curse, to unlock new skin, to get back in the progression they will need to lift the curse, they will need to lift the cure. plus as the con are bigger than the pro by all mean sea of thieves won be a sea of curse sea dogs.

  • @rtl-saint non sence, if the pirate is curse its obious with their look something special goes on... i play sot for live a fantasy in a pirate word not be in a flat world just making us only pay for more skin... videogame should be about that. if we think well about it been curse will be out of objective so it will be lifted by most players after trying it.

  • But if a curse altogether had disadvantages, why would anyone do the things that bring it about?

  • @theseventeas They'd do it for fun, and an extra challenge that makes things different.

  • @galactic-geek sagte in THE CURSES ARE NOT CURSES BUT SKIN.:

    @kermar-tutu said in THE CURSES ARE NOT CURSES BUT SKIN.:

    @itz-majman nope they wont

    🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    Wrong! 🙃

    hahaha nice, reminds me of my 15yo child...
    "this is red, cant you see it?"
    "no it isn't" stomps on the floor insisting on the contrary even if things are crystal clear :D

    @kermar-tutu

    i can see where you are coming from and in general i'd agree and support this.
    More RP and such is fine, but gamemechnics would be too much for me, instead RP and hide in caves at daytime, only sail at night and if you miss to hide from sunbeams burn yourself.
    Thats one example.
    You can also make you cannot use anything else but banana's or give you self-infliceted disadvanteges to reflect a real curse.
    RP need no gamemechanics, i agre they can help, but it's not really neccessary!!!

    What about a "curse" that let you only attack bigger numbers and forbid to attack undermanned crews cough, cough

    @Foxdog86 i agree with, i dont exploit, thats my curse :D

  • @stundorn yeah... i mean playing video game is not necessary too. but the main reason to do it is to have fun and experience world were fantasy and bounderies are lesser. and who like a pirate game like sot with no curse in it? not because regular players need to be all equal, curse could not be add. real curse where , season pass dont go up, where u cant unlock any new skin... but alow u to exerience the pro and the many cons of a curse. free to the imagination. but thee is no curse in sea of thieves. the definition of curse is not respected even a bit. even people who are again that would love to exerience been cure enjoy it and understand it need to be remouved. pirate fantasy with no curse... its sadden me. maybe a launche the game will be full of it but very soon player will lift it. and if it ruin the game it can still be remouved. better than not trying to see how the gameplay will become. im a dreamer that why i play sot. not to be stock on some non sence bounderies when the game make us dream about it. :)

  • @kermar-tutu

    let's brainstorm, because i see your intentions and it reminds me of UO and SWG when Healers were important and players need them because they were cursed or similar. Neocron also had such mechanics iirc.

    SoT builds around possible playerinteractions.
    I dont think the community would accept real disadvantages, but i can see that a "curse" that affects you can maybe used for player interaction and the "disadvantage" that i can think of that would not affect PvP is a curse that dont let you sell loot at all or reduce your income!

    So a curse to be unable to sell treasure or reduce your rewards to 50 or even 25%

    To lift that curse you have to do a journey and gift the loot to someone who then need to sell this.
    If he does, he will get rewarded with a good amount of Gold and or dubloons and the Giver would lose the curse.

    Now what could curse you. Maybe if you are too eager with sinking and killing you get cursed this way.
    You can refuse to lift the curse and live with less income.
    If you are a murderer on the Sea then murder is more important than gold.
    If you are more balanced and gold is what you really want but that someetimes need you to sink players, then you need to keep it balanced and also gift someone to not be cursed at all.
    Some kind of a good/evil meter.

    If you are too much into PvE you could be cursed too and because you only get loot easily you get cursed and loot sells for less, to remove the curse you have to sink a players ship and sell some stolen loot to make thinkgs more balanced again.

    But you know what... while i was writing i already thought it will discourage people and make them upset becuase of artificially constructed rules how to behave etc.
    I can see it can add, but need to be done in a better way than i can think of.
    And tbh it doesnt really need to be in the game at all, because like i said you can do that by yourself and just sacrifice some loot.

    You can RP that every 5th item need to be sacrificed or whatever.
    There is so much you can invent by yourself and follow the rules you imposed to yourself by roleplaying.

    i like it when people Roleplay and start beeing playful and such!!!
    But you wont find mates for this, i at least havent found anyone willing to play this way.

  • @kermar-tutu you clearly dont like the basis of sea of thieves. may i reccomend a game like destiny 2 and borderlands 3.

    Edit: your clearly wanting curses for skins and you keep saying you have to pay for them (which you dont) so i think fortnite might be more your pace ;)

  • @rtl-saint Lol u soo disrespectfull, and im Part of the first 1000 players who played the game, ship mate. and u dare say this game not for me because i just care of curse for skins?, its the opposite mate! we got the skin.. not the curse. (did u read my complain? ) where is the curse??,
    give me a definition of a curse and tell me the ingame one respect it. and i love sea of thieve more than u obiously. as im try to improve it, imagining and contribute to futur contents, were u just a siting "no say to all idees" duck, and insulting.
    plus i bought the game 4 Times. 1 for me, 3 for my friends. i bought half of the emporium and u dare say to me this game is not a game i like and should go play fortnite??? even ur opinion defer, u have to respect others. and say to someone this game not for u go to fornite is an unbannable insult but insult still!. dont pretend it was not the mean... every body see though the line of these kinda saying.

  • @kermar-tutu i dont care that your one of the first 1000 players. from your complaint you dont like the basis of sot. i tried suggesting a better game that has verticle progression whihc may be better suited for you ;)

  • @kermar-tutu said in THE CURSES ARE NOT CURSES BUT SKIN.:

    @rtl-saint Lol u soo disrespectfull, and im Part of the first 1000 players who played the game, ship mate.

    That’s a bold claim to make with almost no way to prove it and thus does nothing to help your argument.

  • @kermar-tutu said in THE CURSES ARE NOT CURSES BUT SKIN.:

    @rtl-saint Lol u soo disrespectfull, and im Part of the first 1000 players who played the game, ship mate. and u dare say this game not for me because i just care of curse for skins?, its the opposite mate! we got the skin.. not the curse. (did u read my complain? ) where is the curse??,
    give me a definition of a curse and tell me the ingame one respect it. and i love sea of thieve more than u obiously. as im try to improve it, imagining and contribute to futur contents, were u just a siting "no say to all idees" duck, and insulting.
    plus i bought the game 4 Times. 1 for me, 3 for my friends. i bought half of the emporium and u dare say to me this game is not a game i like and should go play fortnite??? even ur opinion defer, u have to respect others. and say to someone this game not for u go to fornite is an unbannable insult but insult still!. dont pretend it was not the mean... every body see though the line of these kinda saying.

    and now you are getting defensive for no reason and who cares when you started playing the posts you have made on here remind me of a new player who doesn't understand or willing to understand how to play the game

  • @the-zackdaddy to test the first alpha rare start to invite 1000 pioniers, i was one of them. i dont say that to argue about the topic, but to answer to someone who say i dont like the basis of this game and ask me to go play fortnight. is very insulting do to my contribution and years of playing the game, has nothing to do with the argument, and yet u not correcting his argu doesnt fit the topic, just mine. when we touch ur little confort with different idees u just bulling as long i keep argue. i dont care, but saying i dont like the basis of this game. the basis is a pirate fantasy. and its should remain so. if they dont want to had curse to their game ok. witch player like to be curse in a pirate game seriously execpt me? but why call a skin a curse??? to say yes! here loooook! there is a curse here!!! . its a joke.

  • @rtl-saint yes any of your suggestion are about pirate do u even like pirate ? and now you pretend was for my own good like i would say : "ha yes right fornight!!!" why im i not playing fornight? instead of losing time suggesting idee to a game i didnt notice i dont like?... lol. when u go to a forum for talk about idee to add in the game its because u love the game u want to make it grow. what u said was a totally twist around about what i say. i said skin should not be called curse and curse should be had. and u tell me i clearly like just skin. no, not skin man, i like game gameplay, gmae is full of new new skin, i pay to support the game to grow, now i like to have added gameplay to sot, not cancel some gamplay, added gameplay!. ... so keep your suggestion who are out of topic and meant just to pist off someone in purpose and have real argue, for that you need to imagine! so show me. i will answer i try to devellope it to defend my point because i thought deeply about it. if u cant stand this kind of arguments. and dodge to a fortight recommendation, i wont respect u.

  • @closinghare208 lol. because new players got idees u think they have no right to suggesting it? when sea of thieves when out for the first time people were full of idees to add into the game. and yes i look like this kind of new for aguing like i was a new player because i still wish more, for this game in term of gameplay and RP. u too u must wish things for sot not? this game doesnt inspire you ? when u play it, the details rare put in , doesnt make u dream more? tell me! u probably have at least 1 Idee for this game futur no?

  • @kermar-tutu said in THE CURSES ARE NOT CURSES BUT SKIN.:

    @closinghare208 lol. because new players got idees u think they have no right to suggesting it? when sea of thieves when out for the first time people were full of idees to add into the game. and yes i look like this kind of new for aguing like i was a new player because i still wish more, for this game in term of gameplay and RP. u too u must wish things for sot not? this game doesnt inspire you ? when u play it, the details rare put in , doesnt make u dream more? tell me! u probably have at least 1 Idee for this game futur no?

    yes but good ones not to be rude

  • As the game is designed, cosmetic stuff should not affect balance, however, I can agree with one thing, it is a real shame that the curses have little to no backstory atleast from what I can tell. Yeah the gold curse turns splotches of your skin into gold but like, cannonically, how does that work? How would one obtain that curse and what affects would it have on the person with it? Itd be nice to see that stuff touched on because the curses look reaaly cool

  • @marinereagent32 said in THE CURSES ARE NOT CURSES BUT SKIN.:

    As the game is designed, cosmetic stuff should not affect balance, however, I can agree with one thing, it is a real shame that the curses have little to no backstory atleast from what I can tell. Yeah the gold curse turns splotches of your skin into gold but like, cannonically, how does that work? How would one obtain that curse and what affects would it have on the person with it? Itd be nice to see that stuff touched on because the curses look reaaly cool

    greed is one and taking gold from the hoarder and tributes peak (shores of gold) would do that so lore wise and story wise it makes sense

  • @closinghare208 I'd say Oos curse and ashen curse are the hardest to say make sense story wise. Gold curse one easy, gold in the Gold Hoarder's vault is cursed. Direct coins in SoT have high potential of curse just because Ancients are too excited with messing with gold.

  • @closinghare208 but what would it actually do? Does it slowly turn you into gold until all that is left of you is a gold statue? Thats the kinda lore I want with curses

  • @marinereagent32 said in THE CURSES ARE NOT CURSES BUT SKIN.:

    @closinghare208 but what would it actually do? Does it slowly turn you into gold until all that is left of you is a gold statue? Thats the kinda lore I want with curses

    sort of yes

  • @closinghare208 send me a links of yours!

  • @closinghare208 my post is an example. it doesnt have to this mention curse but a curse. and if it have to respect the ballance of the game be it. but bounderies are truly not. rare said once; every ship spoted gonna be players. i glad they didnt respect this bounderies. (even the skelly ships should be more polish in the gameplay in my opinion). but even if the skin are just a skin. be able to go in a chest put on and out as pleased... is it fitting your idee of curse for u? should it not be at least not remouvable unless we do a special quest? i refuse "as a curse demanding player" to say im satisfied. whit what this games give us. no curse in sea of thieve ok. this is like a joke. u want a curse? here are the curse. nothing between. and i got right and its legitime to dream about curse in a pirate game like sea of thieves... ( for the gold curse, we could have been curse of the skin after completed the quest for the first time! but to be able to remove it then i need it to do 5 time. this is a curse. a cheap one but a curse at least).

  • @kermar-tutu I actually agree with you, Im just simply pointing out the flaws in your attempts to persuade and charm others to see the root of this whole idea because of your aggressive defensive position to anyone that has any kind of possibly conflicting view point... savy?

  • @kermar-tutu If the curse is only cosmetic and only affect your look, then it's a good idea! Let's say you get cosmetic-cursed for completing Shores of Gold and you get a random variation of the gold curse. If you don't like it, you redo it, or go for cleansing to get it off completely then redo it to get a cooler version. Same for ashen curse; the eyes would glow but the patterns would be randomised. However OoS curse would have no randomisation to it (or just a bit maybe), and Pl curse would remain as it is now (equipable from chest). This idea would bring more reasons to replay the Tall Tales.

  • @the-zackdaddy I know. it stronger than me sorry for that. but i dont mind to be unpopular on sot forum. but i still put me in a second place. if my idee doesnt come up i dont mind. its just all time when i have suggest idee on the forum i never been on a good argument with others. ex: "your idee is bad but maybe if we do this "new idee suggestion" it will not broke the gamebounderies". if u look what people want in the forum for sot and what they want in de comment on youtube sot video. sot forum is called in french " la penser unique" it means there is only one way to think in the all community. and im agains this dangerous thing. im not jumping to say no to all idee in this section to players. sometime in the post there is idee i like and other i dont like and i point it out. but jump topic from topic to just say no. u have to know than some of the idees share in the forum an deep thought and took time to devellope. sometime the idees pictured are not well represented with the words. every body should respect that. caling bad or good idee. an idee its like a tree. there is many different way to twist the things around. when i hear this game basis is every body are the same healt and staff. something wrong and not true. its true dev doesnt want player to be stronger than other. to avoid mmo perpective. for the player who want to jump in after two years not overtaken by stats. but thay will by skills and they will need to learn. but this is a game balance not the basis. the basis is this and only this: " we want players to experience the life of a pirate and create their own jurney, in our pirate sand box". this are the base of sot. the bouderies are just here to try to keep it fair for the players... let not mix number two with nurber 1. and on many idee if we put a bit time to it, these two are mixable.
    it will be great to have a a part of the youtube community in these forums.
    because we fell like there is an "association of the protection of curent state" in this forum. and its bad because its not constructive; and players after post 2 or 3 idee, are not meeting people who try to built something doable together who fit the game. but just say no its a bad idee of just staf like "just dont do that and it fine"... these answer are actually very mean,
    and players give up about sharing positive idee about the game... so only angry topic comme up in majority. as a very old sot player. i dont want to be intimidate about that. i will pist off players by deffending my point until we get a better talk and an honnest exchange like u just did and i appreciate!. if u dont trust me there is a bigger creative sot community go check some u tube comment... every think not pink sure but why is there a such different community? u guys should inspire player to come here and share what they want to share, because tons of idee are not share in the forum, because they give up and fell actualy bad after sharing it.

  • @uzugijin exactly, it not what i wish the most in my utopic dream but at list the curse is a curse... could be an animal also who constant folow u and u cant get rid off... i mean. i invite players to more think about what can we do to add actual curse who fit the game bounderies (even i dont like them) and restect the curse aspect than accepting what they give to us. (because let be honest the tall tail is tall tail, i like them, but the curse, is very cheap realisation...

  • @kermar-tutu the game has been at its core a horisontal progression. you are asking to ruin the ENTIRE game rare has built so you can have accurate curses? read into the lore you dont even realize the amount of lore and backstory COUNTERING this entire idea.

  • @rtl-saint we came at the end saying curse would just be visual but not remouvable at will from a chest... it doesnt break the game (to remove the skin or put it back, a quest should be had giving a curse aspect to the actual curse, maybe a reason to play more the tall tails),
    And the begening of sot are written but not the end." u can say u think it will broke the game" but u cant say" it will broke the game". u cant know for sure... u just want to see the branch of the tree where u sit on. easy for u to see it stable because u clime it. what u dont see it all the other branch ,who are not known by you, but are stable too.
    Be open minded my friend... turn around the problem and look also the other possibilities who can make us agree on the crossing of them... this is a constructive way to argue.
    PS: I need to edit this topic for a more consilient solution. gonna do it tonight i think.

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