Sea of Thieves already has over 2,700 gamer score points available.. That is a lot for an Xbox game.. They can't just keep adding more and more. Many games are limited to 1,000 points, and only those with quality updates and content can add more achievement points to them. Daily deeds does not really qualify for that.
@needsmokes said in Daily Deeds and Events should have achievements tied to them:
Sea of Thieves already has over 2,700 gamer score points available.. That is a lot for an Xbox game.. They can't just keep adding more and more. Many games are limited to 1,000 points, and only those with quality updates and content can add more achievement points to them. Daily deeds does not really qualify for that.
That's not a valid argument anymore since there are games well over 2700 score on Xbox and Steam has no limit either. I can give you a few "Xbox" games that I played(so just looking at my profile) that have over 2700 score - Forza Horizon 3.7 K score, Fishing Sim 3K score, Killer Instinct 5K, Halo MCC 7K, Minecraft 2.7K etc.
Yes, those all started at 1,000 points. And are allowed to add more points as meaningful content is added.. Daily deeds of delivering 12 cooked chickens is not meaningful content.
I guess you missed my point. I'm not talking about adding specific achievements. I'm talking about a general achievement that's tied to them. So it won't be "Deliver 12 Cooked Chicken" but instead "Complete 25 Daily Deeds" which would require you to play at least 25 days to complete. And Events/Daily Deeds are core mechanic of this game now, so they are meaningful content in sense of this game.
But by February 2021, those daily deeds will not be available for anyone to earn thereafter, and therefor, wouldn't be able to count as a gamer score and they will be unobtainable for players to gain. A gamer score is something always that should always be achievable for players at any given time.
@kissofkilll Halo 7k gamerscore? You mean the Master Chief Collection? That startet with 4k gamerscore for 4 games...so it didn't even double that number...SoT has way more than double the default score...
There are enough achievements that got added and are pretty grindable...no need for senseless "daily deeds"-achievements
@needsmokes said in Daily Deeds and Events should have achievements tied to them:
But by February 2021, those daily deeds will not be available for anyone to earn thereafter, and therefor, wouldn't be able to count as a gamer score and they will be unobtainable for players to gain. A gamer score is something always that should always be achievable for players at any given time.
I'm not just talking about the current daily deeds...There were daily deeds 2 months ago and there will be more next year, It's implemented for the game now. You can get them whenever you are ready to get them.After the current ones end in February new ones will be available, that's how it is since their development..
@schwammlgott
That's not the point, it's still a single app. I mentioned MCC just to prove that there is no limit per app.
@kissofkilll there is actually a limit...was 2000GS in the first years of XBox360...later it went up...don't know if that's still a thing...but doesn't matter, because we don't need achievements for daily deeds, daily bountys or whatever...I still think there should've been no achievements for arena...
@schwammlgott I just showed you MCC with 7K score or look at Killer Instinct, there is no limit as we can see Microsoft can adjust it however they like to or give developers a change to change it how it suits them. Sea of Thieves have already unlocked their limit so they can add any number of achievements they would like to. Also Arena is a core game-mod, obviously it will have achievements tied to it.
@kissofkilll just because it's a core mode (which isn't really true, as the devs said, no more updates...), doesn't mean it needs achievements...look at Call of Duty, at least Modern Warfare 1&2, don't know about the others...they have achievements for campagne only, not a single one for MP
@schwammlgott It's not developers fault that people are not playing Arena, game designer should have added more mods (TDM, Last Man Standing etc) in rotation and events specific to the arena to keep people playing. Remember when the Courage set was introduced and you had to play Arena, it was full of people. After a while you can reintroduce them for the people who wont play Arena. But this isn't the point of this thread so I will refrain from replying to this matter.
Also you are talking about 12 years old game and both of them have multiplayer required specs-ops achievements. First one didn't even have Steam achievements. If you look at the later release of CoD games you can find multiplayer tied achievements in them. Activision also known for bad integration with achievements, so they just gave up after merging with Blizzard.
Actually, it is the Devs fault the arena failed. It was never designed to play well with no tier structure implemented. You had a ship of legends vs a open crew of sailors, each ship probably 2 players short.
And then arena 2.0 just continued to fail expectations of a condensed combat mode coupled with endless problems.
If it was a good mode and created fair and quick matchmaking, it would be a great mode.
All came down to a design failure. It could be great!
@needsmokes I agree with you, that's exactly why I stated that it's the Game Designers fault and gave suggestions on how to fix it.
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However this isn't the main focus of this thread.
@needsmokes daily deeds != 12 deeds of giving.
What OP is talking about is the daily task we have for a few months now and none of them specific, they have nothing to do with christmas or halloween events
They are usually something like “give away a chest to another crew” or “use the friend emote to make a friend on the seas” or “deliver x trophy fish to the hunters call”
But in the case of what op is saying the specific deeds are not important, he is saying something like “complete 365 daily deeds” for an achievement and this could work as an achievement without it possibly ever becoming unavailable unless the game goes down.
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