Place a keg inside a collectors chest and it will explode if opened and when sold.
Good for those who like to sneaky sneaky.
Replace the loot inside with a keg, follow at a distance and watch the fireworks.
Im sure youd all have other smart uses for them too. Leave them on the beach of a nearby ship for example, hilarious watching them keg their own ship.
@cursedrhino6365 said in Keg-Trap Collectors chests:
@daringclarky That would sound fun but what about your random teammate opening it on your ship
Thats it. So communication is key. Tell them not to open it lol
@targasbr said in Keg-Trap Collectors chests:
It is an idea that seems interesting at first, but when well thought out, it can be a big problem. This would make carry powder kegs too easy, and it is one of the biggest balancers between attacker and defender after a fort for example.
It's a fun idea, but not a viable one.
It wouldnt.
Soon as the chest opens kaboom. Anyadditional kegs you stack will explode at the same time effectively wasting kegs.
Totally viable.
@daringclarky said in Keg-Trap Collectors chests:
It wouldnt.
Soon as the chest opens kaboom. Anyadditional kegs you stack will explode at the same time effectively wasting kegs.Totally viable.
But we have the point of shooting them to explode. That way they would be protected, unless a shot in the collector's chest was effective as well. If they weren't protected from gunshots, fire or the like, that's fine.
@targasbr said in Keg-Trap Collectors chests:
@daringclarky said in Keg-Trap Collectors chests:
It wouldnt.
Soon as the chest opens kaboom. Anyadditional kegs you stack will explode at the same time effectively wasting kegs.Totally viable.
But we have the point of shooting them to explode. That way they would be protected, unless a shot in the collector's chest was effective as well. If they weren't protected from gunshots, fire or the like, that's fine.
The idea is to trick crews into opening it.
Mix it amoungst their current loot.
Use it at an ambush etc.
Its a keg disguised as a chest that triggers when opened.
@daringclarky said in Keg-Trap Collectors chests:
Its a keg disguised as a chest that triggers when opened.
Just opened or when they shoot or with fire?
@cursedrhino6365 said in Keg-Trap Collectors chests:
@targasbr how are you a founder
Founder is the title given to players who play since the beta, if I'm not mistaken.
@targasbr said in Keg-Trap Collectors chests:
@daringclarky said in Keg-Trap Collectors chests:
Its a keg disguised as a chest that triggers when opened.
Just opened or when they shoot or with fire?
Soon as it opens.
The pirate sets the fuse to blow as chest opens. Its a trap
Valid point on the carrying kegs.
Dont worry,it wouldnt be possible to.
@daringclarky said in Keg-Trap Collectors chests:
@targasbr said in Keg-Trap Collectors chests:
@daringclarky said in Keg-Trap Collectors chests:
Its a keg disguised as a chest that triggers when opened.
Just opened or when they shoot or with fire?
Soon as it opens.
The pirate sets the fuse to blow as chest opens. Its a trap
EI don't think you understand... Even inside the collector chest, if I shoot or shoot one of the flame balls, would the keg explode?
@targasbr said in Keg-Trap Collectors chests:
@daringclarky said in Keg-Trap Collectors chests:
@targasbr said in Keg-Trap Collectors chests:
@daringclarky said in Keg-Trap Collectors chests:
Its a keg disguised as a chest that triggers when opened.
Just opened or when they shoot or with fire?
Soon as it opens.
The pirate sets the fuse to blow as chest opens. Its a trapEI don't think you understand... Even inside the collector chest, if I shoot or shoot one of the flame balls, would the keg explode?
It would not explode when closed no. It will explode soon as you trigger the chest to open. Your pirate rigs the fuse to the latch making it an improvised but intricate trap.
Otherwise people would just shoot them to make sure no kegs are in making the trap pointless and easy to detect
@daringclarky said in Keg-Trap Collectors chests:
It would not explode when closed no. It will explode soon as you trigger the chest to open. Your pirate rigs the fuse to the latch making it an improvised but intricate trap.
Otherwise people would just shoot them to make sure no kegs are in making the trap pointless and easy to detect
Mate, PLEASE READ WHAT I WROTE!
@targasbr said in Keg-Trap Collectors chests:
Even inside the collector chest, if I shoot...
If you keep the latch open with a keg inside and shoot the keg it will explode yes. Cant use chests to transport a keg tho so you cant pick up the chest with a keg placed inside. To move chest you must take keg out or close, but closing activates the trap so you cant open it again. If you do, kaboom.
@daringclarky said in Keg-Trap Collectors chests:
If you keep the latch open with a keg inside and shoot the keg it will explode yes. Cant use chests to transport a keg tho so you cant pick up the chest with a keg placed inside. To move chest you must take keg out or close, but closing activates the trap so you cant open it again. If you do, kaboom.
If I can't pick up or carry a chest with a keg inside, the idea doesn't make sense...
@targasbr said in Keg-Trap Collectors chests:
@daringclarky said in Keg-Trap Collectors chests:
If you keep the latch open with a keg inside and shoot the keg it will explode yes. Cant use chests to transport a keg tho so you cant pick up the chest with a keg placed inside. To move chest you must take keg out or close, but closing activates the trap so you cant open it again. If you do, kaboom.
If I can't pick up or carry a chest with a keg inside, the idea doesn't make sense...
All you need to know is this...
Place a keg in a chest and close lid.
When lid opens again it explodes.
Whats difficult to understand about that concept? Is there a specific scenario you need me to cover?
@daringclarky said in Keg-Trap Collectors chests:
All you need to know is this...
Place a keg in a chest and close lid.
When lid opens again it explodes.Whats difficult to understand about that concept? Is there a specific scenario you need me to cover?
If I Just can put a keg inside the chest, but I can't carry the chest, I'm Just placing a trap on my ship, because almost always the keg and the chest até on my own ship. If I can't carry the chest to place this trap on another ship, this idea can be discarded. And, if we can't explode the keg shooting the chest with the keg inside, the risk of carry a keg will be almost zero, and the forts will lose balance between attacker and defender.
@targasbr said in Keg-Trap Collectors chests:
@daringclarky said in Keg-Trap Collectors chests:
All you need to know is this...
Place a keg in a chest and close lid.
When lid opens again it explodes.Whats difficult to understand about that concept? Is there a specific scenario you need me to cover?
If I Just can put a keg inside the chest, but I can't carry the chest, I'm Just placing a trap on my ship, because almost always the keg and the chest até on my own ship. If I can't carry the chest to place this trap on another ship, this idea can be discarded. And, if we can't explode the keg shooting the chest with the keg inside, the risk of carry a keg will be almost zero, and the forts will lose balance between attacker and defender.
Once the lid is closed the chest can be moved again.
Basically its to prevent using the open collectors chest as a way to move multiple kegs at once.
Chest open, can put kegs in.
Once closed, any kegs in will detonate.
Whilst open chest cannot be moved, must close latch to move.
Make sense?
@lnexol-tiranus said in Keg-Trap Collectors chests:
It is an interesting idea, but very poorly clarified. Maybe something better comes through the comments.
I didnt think it was a complicated idea. The latch of a collectors chest detonating any kegs inside.
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@targasbr said in Keg-Trap Collectors chests:
It is an idea that seems interesting at first, but when well thought out, it can be a big problem. This would make carry powder kegs too easy, and it is one of the biggest balancers between attacker and defender after a fort for example.
It's a fun idea, but not a viable one.
It wouldnt.
Soon as the chest opens kaboom. Anyadditional kegs you stack will explode at the same time effectively wasting kegs.Totally viable.
But how can this be counteracted (reversed)?
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@lnexol-tiranus said in Keg-Trap Collectors chests:
It is an interesting idea, but very poorly clarified. Maybe something better comes through the comments.
I didnt think it was a complicated idea. The latch of a collectors chest detonating any kegs inside.
I understood everything that was said. It's not complicated. I just think that smarter discussions could come out of the comments, improving the idea. I saw much of the same here.
I like the idea, but I agree with @TargasBR you will still need to be able to shoot it and if you would make it immovable it would be kind of obvious. It just becomes a single or even a triple stack keg; that is immune to damage, has no fuse just a switch in the form of a lid ... so suicide bomb. That you cannot sell, but you aren't planning on selling it anyway.
One of the other smart uses is that as a boarder carrying this all you need to do is get on board, make sure you take out enough of the crew with you and the only counter play is to kill you before you open it.
Keep in mind all they need to do is drop it and open it. If you pick it up after they drop it, they can still open it... while you are holding it. The whole down side of kegs is that you cannot sprint and well a single shot can make you explode. So even if they get on board you make enough distance, shoot the keg and live so you repair in the worst case as a final defense. This wouldn't be possible and making it so strong. Also 3 kegs might not puncture that many more holes, but pack a hell of a punch in killing power, even with one if you should be able to do damage far easier than with a normal keg.
Additionally you make it harder to avoid being boarded on top of this, making it even stronger in comparison. As killing keggers before they get on board if you see them coming is one shot and a pretty big target. One of the main defenses versus kegs is just shoot it before they get near. While a trap chest holder you still need to hit the pirate 2 times, making it easier to actually pull it off. Keep in mind the chest holder isn't expected to survive either so taking a single hit is not the end of the world, they are on a suicide mission.
