Pirate Customization and the IPG

  • So, games been doin well, new content, enemies, ouftits, quest lines, etc etc..

    But will the pirates themselves ever be get any love?
    Like.. a proper character creation system for example and not just an elaborate randomizer button, being able to get a new face without losing all of the stuff you've gotten over time considering all the time exclusive stuff that's been giving out over time, and maybe being able to have more than one character would be nice too.

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  • @hyenanoises

    Having more than one character and an occasional reset I'd be fine with. The reason for the IPG, however, is so that we don't end up with everyone creating the 'ideal pirate', which would end up with a sea of the same stereotypical-looking pirates. You need diversity, and character creation often doesn't get you that.

  • @ultmateragnarok People already end up making an "ideal' pirate anyways though by just recycling the wheel a few times, it just takes a couple more hours instead of a few minutes with the IPG, and honestly, so what?

    Not everyone is gonna make some dashing dorito shaped manly man pirate prince, plenty of us that will still like making our characters look like commoners and oddballs too.

  • @hyenanoises

    Yes, but Rare doesn't want, say, a crew of identical pirates running around. It wouldn't work for gameplay, looks, or lore, so they don't let people do it.

  • We would all be lucky if we could just buy another spin on the IPG.

    This is a feature long overdue.

  • @hyenanoises this post is everything i dream about. and i have been waiting for forever. not only does this make us pirates happy, it increases replayability. being able to create multiple pirates, aswell as actually create pirates rather than pick a random one, would have many benefits

  • @ultmateragnarok said in Pirate Customization and the IPG:

    @hyenanoises

    Having more than one character and an occasional reset I'd be fine with. The reason for the IPG, however, is so that we don't end up with everyone creating the 'ideal pirate', which would end up with a sea of the same stereotypical-looking pirates. You need diversity, and character creation often doesn't get you that.

    have they ever tested this, because their are lots of games where you can customise charecters and people look vastly different. especially in a game like sea of thieves, i think they have more charecter customisation options than any other games, in the random weel i feel like i have never seen the same pirate, therefore their is probs millions of different looking pirates just one person could create. idk i dont think their is an ideal pirate, and i certainly dont think everyones ideal pirate would look the same. for example i dont want just one type of pirate, i want a fat one, a skinny drunk, and a buff captain. if you look at a game like ark survival evolved, although their faces dont have much customisation options, look at how wacky and crazy the charecters are. it just goes to show that people dont go for the "ideal" anything, or at least peoples views of what is ideal is different. idk i think they should test the option with insiders, im really curious to see if everyones pirates look the same? because i really dont think it would make a difference. all it would do is make us feel more connected and happeir with our pirates

  • @d4m0r3d

    Not everyone would look the same, but you'd end up with entire crews that look identical, or, as it's been put, "a thousand Jack Sparrows running around". Sure, people would look different between crews (mostly), but it would have some detriments, too. You're supposed to look like a pirate, not some strangely proportioned monster (though some could argue that some pirates already look like that), and not a flawless example of royalty or whatever. It's the same reason none of the sets tend to match perfectly between multiple ones - it reinforces the 'pirate' look to have them mismatched.

  • @ultmateragnarok i dont think it would be easy for someone to make jack sparrow, and im not sure many people would want jack sparrow, maybe a few kids. either way i doubt peoples ability to craft a perfect looking jack sparrow, even if 20 people tried making jack sparrow, im sure each and every jack sparrow would look different. and if crews want to look identical, sure why not, they can role play as a family of pirates, that honestly sounds cool to me. its not like it matters, they have name tags. atm you can already make players look the same with just cosmetics, i mean if you all have the skinniest player model, and all wear the same clothes, same face paint and hair, you will look similar, cause you cant really notice the player themselves, just the cosmetics.

    "You're supposed to look like a pirate, not some strangely proportioned monster (though some could argue that some pirates already look like that), and not a flawless example of royalty or whatever."
    you wouldnt be able to create a proportioned monster, if you pick a fat model, you have to pick from the available fat person traits, same for skinny and buff, its that simple. as for the flawless example of royalty, why does it matter, what if someone wanted to role play a king who turned pirate after his kingdome was overthrone, why stop players from being creative? why stop the possibilities? a pirate can be anyone, you keep saying you have to look like a pirate, but anyone can be a pirate? you cannot look like a pirate because anyone and everyone could be a pirate, it really doesnt matter.

    "It's the same reason none of the sets tend to match perfectly between multiple ones - it reinforces the 'pirate' look to have them mismatched." im not sure what you mean with this.

    anyways, with how many possible characters there are in the game rn, there is no reason for player-created pirates to look the same, the only reason they would look the same is if their was limited customisation, but their isn't, as we have seen the random generator is able to make endless amounts of different looking pirates. therefore there is no reason us humans wouldnt be able to do the same, its not like we all think the same and want the exact same thing, like i said i would like a fat guy a skinny guy and a buff guy. i would really like to see this tested with insiders, because i really doubt we would all make charecters that look the same. i truely believe the variety in the way pirates look would be just as good as it is now, if not better

  • I remember prior to launch, how Rare mentioned that they wanted to take players out of their comfort zone in regards to character creation. Like playing characters of a different gender than you usually would.
    I also think they wanted the characters to have a certain level of wonkiness that is prevalent in SoT.

    That being said, many pirates look similar anyways with certain attributes being more prevalent than others. Like the skinny girl with the heart shaped head, or how fat guys look the same.

    But every once in a while I see a toon that has a rare combination of attributes and I can't help but wonder how many spins before the IPG spit that pirate out, and how that player made a great choice.

    As far as sliders and whatnot for players to make their own toons, don't bet on it.
    After a year and a half you can't even buy a spin on the IPG for your current pirate yet.

  • @barnabas-seadog You know nothing!

  • @ultmateragnarok You seem oddly hung up on the thought that everyone is just going to make a million jack sparrows, even though there's like tons of pirate characters out there.

    And even if maybe 100 people try to do that, what's the chances you'll run into more than 1 of them? Some people like trying to remake existing characters in games, hell, you might be surprised at what people decide to make OTHER than jack sparrow.

    Over on RDR2, I saw someone make themselves look like Colonel Sanders , the KFC guy.

    Either way, I'd imagine a proper character system for this game would be more of just letting you choose the pre-made parts their randomizer currently uses.

    So, it'd probably start with choosing the body type, then choosing one of the variations of that body type, skin, and then lastly, mixing and matching the different pieces of the head and face available to that body.

    A pretty simple character system

  • @barnabas-seadog "As far as sliders and whatnot for players to make their own toons, don't bet on it.
    After a year and a half you can't even buy a spin on the IPG for your current pirate yet."

    its a sad world.

    i wonder why rare would think its a good idea to make players play with charecters out of their comfort zone, it sounds like a terrible idea, like just a genuinely bad idea lol. like imagine that, HEY GUys lets force our player base to play with odd poo charecters they wouldnt normally chose, or that they may not like, that would be great, im sure they would thourally enjoy playing charecters that are totally the opposite of what they like. no offence rare if you read this, but i mean it does sound wierd.

    i mean im also talking from experience though, i have quit the game 2 times just because i hated the way my pirate looked and couldnt stand playing as that pirate anymore. i only started playing the game again because i figured out i can create another xbox account although its a pretty poo method to create a new charecter. but yea twice i quit cause i hated my pirate. the first time i came back after like a year, or maybe it was just 6 months, and i deleted my pirate, then i got a new pirate lvld him up to 40 on everything, deleted him, made another new one, got it to PL and quit for around 6 months and now im here. theres still alot to do on my old PL account i just dont want to play as that pirate atm, so im having a nice refresher with a new pirate. although i did play for a while a few days ago with my old pirate and he was warming up to me again.

  • @jetorchidee97 ? why do you say Barnabas knows nothing

  • @hyenanoises yea you can still make yourself look like charecters, for example my current pirate is based of the ferryman of the damned, i would say he looks basically the same in the face, only difference is i cant get the shoes, the gloves or the face right, cause the face paint doesnt cover your entire face

  • @jetorchidee97 said in Pirate Customization and the IPG:

    @barnabas-seadog You know nothing!

    "You are uniquely qualified to know the audacity of that statement."

    -Looking Glass to Sister Knight in HBO's Watchmen.

  • I thought the update on the 20th was going to be the update that we all could finally change our pirate one way or another, but after watching the stream yesterday that doesn't seem to be the case...truly disappointed.

  • @d4m0r3d said in Pirate Customization and the IPG:

    @jetorchidee97 ? why do you say Barnabas knows nothing

    I'm like Jon Snow fumbling around in the north.

  • @barnabas-seadog a dit dans Pirate Customization and the IPG :

    "You are uniquely qualified to know the audacity of that statement."

    -Looking Glass to Sister Knight in HBO's Watchmen.

    😂 Well said! All my sincere excuses Barnabas, I shouldn't have say this to you.

  • @jetorchidee97
    It's all good commander, I'm enjoying this thread.

    /raise tankard

  • @barnabas-seadog a dit dans Pirate Customization and the IPG :

    @jetorchidee97
    It's all good commander, I'm enjoying this thread.

    /raise tankard

    /Raise tankard :D

  • @d4m0r3d said in Pirate Customization and the IPG:

    i wonder why rare would think its a good idea to make players play with charecters out of their comfort zone, it sounds like a terrible idea, like just a genuinely bad idea lol. like imagine that, HEY GUys lets force our player base to play with odd poo charecters they wouldnt normally chose, or that they may not like, that would be great, im sure they would thourally enjoy playing charecters that are totally the opposite of what they like. no offence rare if you read this, but i mean it does sound wierd.

    It is a pretty unorthodox character selection process, but it doesn't actually force players to play characters they hate. Some players put more thought in their choices than others.
    It does however present the player with choices they may not otherwise consider.
    I sacked my first toon two days after launch because he just did not resonate with me in-game. Never regretted that decision.

    I like the character resets in Insider because I gives me the opportunity to play with the IPG without sacrificing my awesome polynesian voyager in Retail.
    I've learned to take my time to find that special combination of attributes, take a look at how they play in-game, and still sack them if they dont quite feel right.

    I won't get a chance to play the new Insider with the reset until tomorrow, but I'm considering playing a female this time just to check out the new girlie clothes they put in last month.
    Maybe a hot Chinese or Filipino girlie pirate.

    Still curious as to when Rare will implement an IPG spin from the Emporium.

  • @barnabas-seadog i spend at least 2 hours each time, for people like me they really do force you to pick a character you dont like. like i said previously, i spend 2 hours searching and end up settling for something ehhhhh i guess this is ok, that ends up growing to omg i hate this guy, i wish i coulda got what i wanted.

    you probs never regretted sacking your first pirate because you only had him for 2 days, i miss my original pirate, he had good exclusive skins or watever, and il never be able to replicate his looks.

    i played an old wise lady on the insider, it was fun and interesting.

    also instead of a random pirate weel to pick from i would love to be able to actually create pirates rather than have to chose them.

    some of us are really picky people, im all about character customisation, people like me just cant survive with a random pirate selecter

  • My only problem with the IPG is that you can't set the most basic of parameters, such as generating only a certain gender or body type; adding a filter of sorts would cut down a ton on the time spent there. If they were to add a way to re-roll your pirate, I would hope this would be addressed.

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