Pirate Legends and Skull Forts

@kayzenhyuga fun, pl or not

Well for starters there are commendations linked to the Stronghold items. Secondly, I can help my friend achieve PL however I wish. If that means we tackle a fort then so be it.

I'm Athena 10 and have over 3 million gold. I have a heart as black as coal and I'll take whatever treasure I please.

@kayzenhyuga not even going to bother reading past the first line. Fact is, there are commendations for turning in the stronghold items and bone dust after hitting legend. It's one of the few things to works towards after hitting legend.

IF you want to become legend, then do gold horder, merchant, or OOS, or why not buy a letter or two :)

Forts are pvp and the same reason you want a fort everyone else want it toooooooooooooooooooooooooo,

Because thats one of the objectives of the game?!? Opposing players in Sea of Thieves can look for their own treasure, but if they want more of a challenge, then they should try to steal other players treasure from them. It then adds a challenge for us who are under attack, to try counter attack and keep our loot and celebrate gloriously over being the better pirates.

I'd get bored if there werent other players there to chase us down, the skeletons put up a fight, but it doesnt compare to having a swordfight with another pirate.

Im a Pirate legend also and enjoy when someone comes into battle with us, I will my best shot but if we come off second best, i'm quick to compliment the victors

People are free to play as they will.

@cstrap indeed i read it like that also but i don't think it comes down to just pirate legends acting a certain way, all players want to experience different aspects of the game and play around with different styles of play. Experience all parts of the game and change your play style, be passive one day and fight for other ships loot another day.

I believe the whole attacking a fort thing is purely because there's a giant skull in the sky beckoning for all to come to it

@kayzenhyuga

People do whatever they want for all sorts of different motivations and making a post about it isn’t going to change that.

That’s what makes Sea of Thieves great - all sorts of unique situations created by players with all different motivations.

Maybe they do Skull Forts cause there fun, plus just cause they can purchase a Athena doesn’t mean they have to do it properly. Skull forts are a easy form of cash and are faster to complete. So there are many reasons a pirate legend might want to do a skull fort.

There are pirate legend commendations that need you to sell stronghold items

Yeah, you clearly give the salty vibe here. Why should Pirate Legends stop engaging in content they deem fun? Just because we are pirate Legends doesn't mean we have to stop playing the game. We've been hopping since Launch, not gonna stop anytime soon.

Side note, Athena voyages are dull.

First: It gives points towards commendations.

Second: Athena voyages while fun can get a bit boring. It's nice to jump on a fort once in a while.

Third: Please don't tell us how to play the game. The game is meant to be enjoyed and that's what we're doing. Also Athenas take a good chunk of time to complete. Not everyone can play for that long.

Forth: Again, please don't tell us how to enjoy the game. If we want to PvP we will do it. On forts or the open Seas.

Fifth: I would say that most Pirate Legends do forts for quick easy money and fun. Not to stop others from progressing in the game.

Forts are meant to be a point of contestant in the Map. That's why there's a really big Skull in the air for the whole server to see. It's where people battle for control of the loot and that region of the map. If you're having problems leveling up doing forts i'd suggest trying Voyages. While slower, they help you learn the map and can be more relaxing and fun.

And just because someone beat or stole a fort from you does NOT make them toxic. That's just them being pirates.
I'll see you on the Seas!

@kayzenhyuga I am a level 10 athenas and have always done forts.

Because they are fun, especially when contested and are pretty profitable.

Variety is fun, I also do animal voyages and such... not just athenas, also we have titles to earn from forts. Our reasons are not about others but our own enjoyment.

i understand your frustration but there is always going to be legends who do forts. There fun, you get a lot of loot and there’s a good chance you will get to pvp. These are the things sea of thieves players like to do and that won’t change any time soon.

Well, because it's fun. That's why we all play right? To escape real life for a bit and have some fun. Just because I'm pirate legend shouldn't mean I can't do skull forts should it? Hiding at a fort is a lot of fun for example and I still need stronghold condemnations that you can't work towards until you reach pirate legend. I'm Athena 10 and so are many others. By the time you reach pl 10, I can assure you, doing Athena quests is pretty boring. You have all the riddles memorized, digging spots figured out, etc. Just practice better strategy and awareness. Keep a lookout, check surroundings periodically. Be aware of mermaids that aren't yours. Etc, etc, etc.

@kayzenhyuga ...we do the Skull Forts 'couse we want to? xDD It ain't really that complicated matey! Those who seek PvP will surely met at least one ship at the active keep, those who seek the coin will have a plenty of those much quicker than from perilious voyage granted by the Pirate Lord. And experienced sea dogs and Pirate Legends of old stole from us too when we were just a poor sailors. Why should Ya get other treatment? :-P

First of delivering the content of a skull fort does not give you any experience in any factions because you are max level. Your main focus as Pirate Legends should be doing Athena.

My focus is what I want it to be. You have no power here. Athena voyages are boring. I've already done all those voyage types to get to PL, why do they magically become fun when they get wrapped up with an Athena chest?

Second, if it is a money problem, again do Athena, not speed run it, do it properly you wil get tons of money from doing all those quests that are a part of the Athena Voyage.

Why is the non-legend lecturing people on what is the most efficent gold collecting method is? First, your incorrect, if gold is the number one goal and your great at PvP, you might as well stick to forts. When you get good at them, you can clear them in 10 minutes. In addition, they are so prevalent, that they are very rarily contested. Second, people speed run Athena's because they only care about the chest. You get pretty rich by the time your PL.

Third, if you are trying to help a friend reach Pirate Legende, again do Athena with said friend he wil get experience from those voyages. And if the counter argument to this but it takes such a long time. Well that is how Athena is to be done.

Once again, why is the non-legend lecturing people on gaining PL efficiently, when they themselves aren't a legend? Not only can forts be done faster, but they have loot in all factions. They are also more fun too do then Athena's.

Forth, if it is pvp you are after, then run the reapers flag. some people will come running, heck even do a reapers run voyage for extra excitement and risk.

If its PvP I'm after, I will stick with forts while flying the Reapers, you do realize that those voyages cost doubloons right? They can only been done so many times, and forts are free. That and they are kind of a new thing, the normal PvE types are doing them, and a lot of them tend to just run. That isn't fun for the PvP crowd.

Fifth, if the argument is that you want to stop people from becoming Pirate Legend. then that is straight up not fair for anyone. There wil be tons of plusses if there are more Pirate Legends, more Athenas Chests to steal from to help you with Athena levels. Look at Summit, he does that all the time, and it works.

No one argues this, is this something you actually think people go around doing? I mean sure trolls exist, but any group has those not just the PvP crowd. You do realize you have zero power in controlling or influencing how people play this game, right?

@magus104

Youre blaming PL for Rares short coming in taking care of the PL player base. just because we are barely over 1% of the player base how much of a % are we of the ACTIVE player base. because that 1% is based off millions of people who quit in the first week

I'm blaming what now? All I've said is I find Athena voyages dull, that's a lot to interpret from that. Is this even directed towards me? I think I will need maybe a quote from you cause I've said nothing like this.

@kayzenhyuga as a Pirate Legend and Full level 10 Athena, after completing everything, there are a few factors.. some like me want to complete all the achievements in the game, max out Gold, and some of us play a Pirate game for Piracy because we are thieves.. its in the title mate.. this game has a base playing field, the only difference is how you apply yourself.. you dont like pvp it sounds like..? ok.. for next 2 days i want you to do nothing but fly Black Sails and raid every ship you find.. try each time new tactics on boarding, swordplay and gunfights, sneaking, cannon accuracy.. the reason is, it sounds like you are uncomfortable in these situations, its chaotic and you have alot to loose if another pirate raids you.. so take these few days to get more comfortable in combat.. sure you are gona die alot, but no treasure on board you loose nothing, and gain alot of experience, so later when faced while on a standard Voyage you will know how to handle yourself.. this Is a PVP game make No mistake about that, there Are pirates who do enjoy a good raiding of other vessels. doesnt mean you have to become some pvp master, it just means that you need to learn how to defend, fight, and evade in order to survive.. i dont recall throughout history Pirates sailing over to Spanish Galleons filled with gold, and talking them out of their cargo lol.. no they boarded, murdered and looted those boats.. the Sea of Thieves is no different

Ok having read over all the replies I get all the diffrent sides people see this game from. And as I said I wrote that post somewhat affected by salt so some of the points are based on that feeling. I get that it is called sea of thieves, and that stealing is a part of the game.

But from my point of view if I was in your shoes being a PL and level 10 Athena, having all accomedations. I would personally take a break from the game until the next big update. Therefore having a reason to return to the game. I am not telling you how to play the game, I am just suggesting something you can do.

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@cstrap said in Pirate Legends and Skull Forts:

I re-read his original post, and I don't think he was telling us (pirate legends) that we were only allowed to do Athena quests. I honestly believe that he was just asking why we attack forts when (he believes) we don't need to. I just think it could have been worded differently. What I got out of his question was "I don't understand why you attack forts when you could be doing Athena's quests, because I have the understanding that you get more value out of doing an Athena's quest, and since I'm not a pirate legend, forts are the only way for me to get decent loot". I don't think he meant to be hostile at all.

He did admit that he was being somewhat salty about the ordeal, but hey, we all get salty sometimes.
I worded myself a little wrong when talking about Athenas quests.

As per now I am currently 45 in about every trading company and like most PL's would know the way from 45 to 50 is super slow, and that is the reason I am doing forts. and I am mostly running them solo and clearing them. so this might explain why I am being somewhat salty about this.

Anyway thanks too all who have replied, sorry if anyone felt I was being hostile against PL's. I wil work my hardest to get to PL.

See ya on the seas Ya Landlubbers.

@kayzenhyuga accommodation and quick money for a small effort.
Personally I never attack people at forts unless I see athena ships.

If I want money, I make noah's ark and sell chickens