More curses + possible pride curse?

So you want pirates skin to be rainbow? What??

I think associating LGBT pride with a curse is a bad idea. Could definitely be taken the wrong way.

@mferr11 I mean tbf "curse" in game hardly has the same connotation it has out of the game. Despite checkpoints, the gold curse is still one of the most coveted cosmetics.

But anyway, I get how it could be misconstrued. Just call it the "rainbow curse" and if people want to wear it to show pride (or whatever reason), let them, who cares?

With all the acid-trip-inspired cosmetics we have, I'm surprised something like this doesn't exist already.

@fred-fisheye said in More curses + possible pride curse?:

I’m strongly against placing political topics within a videogame. It doesn’t even matter if I agree or disagree with the topic itself. In my opinion a game - mostly consumed by children and teenagers - is just not the right platform for such placements.

The LGBT community however is - at least partially - very ambitious when it comes to politics (because of understandable reasons). I‘m sorry, but therefore I wouldn’t like to see your idea being realised.

More curses in general however would be great.

I have to say I can sort of agree with this.

Political topics should probably stay out of games. Games are for playing.

IMO, a rainbow curse sounds like a lot of fun, but I think placing it in purely for political reasons or something probably isn't the right way to go.

So yeah, rainbow curse maybe unlocked from Flame of Fate Commendations or something. Just don't make it political.

While we are talking about curses, what about a Curse of the Damned, where you arms and legs and body kind of float like the structures in FotD and FotD?

While we are talking about curses, what about a Curse of the Damned, where you arms and legs and body kind of float like the structures in FotD and FotD?

love this, adding on to this what if it made your skin blue like the pirates in the pirate legend hideout, or like in the ferry of the damned

@xshirahx said in More curses + possible pride curse?:

Before this goes bad - can I just point out that LGBTQ+ isn't politics, it's basic human rights. So can we please refrain from making the argument "politics do not belong in the game" for this subject?

That's not the point people are making.

Yes it is basic human rights, nobody disagrees with that.

The argument people are making is that they don't want this curse added purely for pride. If a rainbow curse was added, they want it to be JUST a rainbow curse. No special messages behind it.

That is what they mean by political. Pushing things for the sole purpose of pushing diversity as opposed to pushing things for the game.

@xshirahx said in More curses + possible pride curse?:

@wolfmanbush said in More curses + possible pride curse?:

@xshirahx said in More curses + possible pride curse?:

Before this goes bad - can I just point out that LGBTQ+ isn't politics, it's basic human rights. So can we please refrain from making the argument "politics do not belong in the game" for this subject?

Someone could say this about many issues.

Staying out of issues means staying out of issues. Every issue matters to some. People's feeling on issues they care about are valid. Staying out of issues and offering escapism is not condoning poor behavior or poor treatment. It's taking a stand to offer inclusive escapism.

Escapism from the weight of the world is a very valuable environment to offer people.

I'm not denying that. I do fail to see how someone for example flying the pride flag in game would be a weight to carry for everyone else. By that logic, we shouldn't have female pirates due to women being discriminated in several areas or male pirates due to men being discriminated in others. See where I'm going with this?

No. The difference here is female pirates didn't get added because they are discriminated against. They got added because that's the game.

@d3adst1ck Could make it a costume then ¯\_(ツ)_/¯. Those seem to forgo any lore requirements.

I just want a plain blue sailor shirt, but hey why not some more glowy, colorful onesies.

@xshirahx said in More curses + possible pride curse?:

What about if we were talking a rainbow themed costume rather than a curse? Would that make a differene to those opposed? Or something rainbow related - like a rainbow unicorn costume? (Yeah, I know, just the first thing I could think of lol)

Again, I repeat myself

The issue is NOT about having rainbow cosmetics.

The issue is adding them purely for political reasons as opposed to adding them because they are rainbow costumes.

For example, it is a Rainbow shirt NOT a Pride Shirt.

or they can make all colors for cosmetics EX: red hat orange eyepatch green shirt blue pants purple boots BOOM you have rainbow outfit.

same for boat red saild orange hull yellow anchor green wheel blue and purple lights BOOOM rainbow ship

@xshirahx I mean, rainbow’s themselves are pretty dang cool. That’s why I like using the Collector’s Paradise Garden ship set. Nothing scares people more than a really colorful galleon with a grade 5 reapers emissary.

…well I think I’ve got that right anyways.

@ninja-naranja said in More curses + possible pride curse?:

@xshirahx I mean, rainbow’s themselves are pretty dang cool. That’s why I like using the Collector’s Paradise Garden ship set. Nothing scares people more than a really colorful galleon with a grade 5 reapers emissary.

…well I think I’ve got that right anyways.

I know exactly what that gritty "realistic" lvl 5 Reaper gally wants...

It's that dayglo one that is s concerning lol

People existing are not "Political Topics".

Having Black characters in the game are not "Political". Having characters who are not straight and things reflecting that a variety of people exist, including couples who are not straight, is not "Political"... what is 'political' are those who go and throw a fit about signs of other people's existences- and then make a big deal and pitch a fit about it.

Having LGBT symbolism as a curse could send the wrong message.

However, the LGBT flag is in the game and other things could be as well. Particularly considering gay marriage was a common thing on the seas with Matelotage, piracy being one way for people to escape the society persecution to live as themselves... and it would be nice to have more things in the game that reflect the diversity of both the characters and player base in that way as well.

@wyvernkraehe said in More curses + possible pride curse?:

People existing are not "Political Topics".

Having Black characters in the game are not "Political". Having characters who are not straight and things reflecting that a variety of people exist, including those who are not straight, is not "Political"... what is 'political' are those who get throw a fit about signs of other people's existences- and then make a big deal and pitch a fit about it.

...That said, yes having LGBT symbolism as a curse could send the wrong message.

However, the LGBT flag is in the game and other things could be as well. Particularly considering gay marriage was a common thing on the seas with Matelotage, piracy being one way for people to escape the society persecution to live as themselves... and it would be nice to have more things in the game that reflect the diversity of both the characters and player base in that way as well.

I feel like the Pride Flag in SoT has an entirely different meaning within the game. Some people use it to mock or trick others with it to seem "friendly". It is one of the sweatiest flags in the game.

@ohhsass still haven’t met a crew that runs that flag and isn’t hostile.

@ohhsass It doesn't matter how some players might use it. Players find all sorts of ways in the game to try to betray and attack others while acting friendly at first all the time, and using different methods to do so. It happens.

That does not remove that the rainbow flag itself is a pride flag (and there are players who DO use it as such.)

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@wyvernkraehe said in More curses + possible pride curse?:

@ohhsass It doesn't matter how some players might use it. Players find all sorts of ways in the game to try to betray and attack others while acting friendly at first all the time, and using different methods to do it. It happens.

That does not remove that the rainbow flag itself is a pride flag (and there are players who DO use it as such.)

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I know that people use it legitimately because they identify as LGBT+ but I personally have never run into anyone uses it because they are. Like I said, within the game, it means something different. I'm not saying it should mean something different, just that it already does. Most who I have encountered who use that flag are sweaty, toxic, or sometimes even homophobic.

First, you just said that you know people who use it legitimately, and then in the next sentence said you never encountered anyone who use it legitimately. Despite just saying you knew people who did? Confusing and seems like contradicting statements.

That said, and once again, It Does Not Matter how some people might use it. None of that removes that the flag itself IS a pride flag.. No matter how some homophobe and troll may act, It doesn't matter and is besides the point.

The Pride flag is what it is.

@fred-fisheye The ONLY thing that would be adding "politics" are those that try to turn people's existence into something to attack.

Not the fact that people exist.
Nor that People would like to not be prosecuted and attacked for existing, tyvm.
People exist, despite efforts to erase them or make it otherwise.
Games reflecting that a multiple people have and continue to exist is in no way shape or form "adding politics". It is just reflecting life.
People's Existence Are Not A "Political Topic"

What is 'Political' are those who yell 'politics' while throwing a fit and attacking over any sign of anyone existing beyond just the ones they want to exist.