Resurrecting Forum Threads.

  • SurveyorPete
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    Just today, I noticed an old thread, Please add the option to reconnect to previous game was added to by someone. A certain [Mod] jumped on the new poster, threating banning them, because they committed the heinous sin of "resurrecting an old thread". Then the thread was locked.

    Then, we get a completely new post about We Need Bounties and bounty hunters... Draft Functionality Inside !. Now, I have already commented on threads like this several times, and offered a lengthy argument why I think earning bounties (or XP) for killing or sinking other pirates is almost unworkable. I am always tempted to post a link to that argument in every new thread that proposes such an idea.

    Sometimes you will see a thread that begins with something like "I don't know if this has been proposed before, but here goes..."

    It nearly always has been!

    What is worse? Resurrecting old threads? Or having the same old topics ("Xbox vs PC", "PvP vs PvE", "Battle Royale", etc.) pop up again and again and again in new threads and those of us who have an opinion, needing to present our case over and over in each such new thread?

    I think it would be better if people DID go in search of the old thread in which their "brand new idea" may have already been presented, and add their voice there.

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  • A Cranky Eskimo
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    Always seemed like an arbitrary rule to give deckhands and forum mods something to do imo. It Makes no sense. They’ll remove a post with a valid opinion on a thread for “baiting and causing unrest” but when their [Mod edited] on people for doing things like this, they don’t remove their posts, but lock the thread.

    Seem to be quite a few double standards on this forum, just look at the boatswains lol..

  • DrunkPunk138
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    Generally the reason why old threads tend to get closed is that the game is an evolving thing. Sometimes topics might still be relevant, but the details no longer are, and a fresh topic would do more justice than bringing up an old one. This obviously isn't always the case, but it's also bad practice to apply rules ad-hoc and ultimately wastes the moderators time having to review all the posts and determine if it's still relevant in its current form.

    I get both sides of this, though. On the one hand, you don't want repeat topics surfacing. On the other hand, that's going to happen no matter what, and having gigantic hundred page threads on a single topic becomes an unwieldy mess that you can neither moderate nor keep up with at times.

    While it is a pain to rehash the same point of view or topic countless times, it's something that will happen anyway. Most people who even resurrect old threads don't bother to read the entirety of the discussion. This is pretty obvious by the replies that bump the old threads.

    That's my experience, anyway, and the reasons we would do so in the forum I used to admin not too long ago. May be different reasons here, I'm not sure. It's kind of a double edged sword: there are benefits to doing it either way, as well as negatives.

  • Murkrage
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    @surveyorpete said in Resurrecting Forum Threads.:

    Just today, I noticed an old thread, Please add the option to reconnect to previous game was added to by someone. A certain Kenji Salk jumped on the new poster, threating banning them, because they committed the heinous sin of "resurrecting an old thread". Then the thread was locked.

    According to the post, this particular member had received multiple warnings about resurrecting an old topic. The rules are very clear about this :).

    What is worse? Resurrecting old threads? Or having the same old topics ("Xbox vs PC", "PvP vs PvE", "Battle Royale", etc.) pop up again and again and again in new threads and those of us who have an opinion, needing to present our case over and over in each such new thread?

    This is a tough one. The rule to not resurrect an old thread is about as old as message boards themselves. It could be for a variety of reasons to not do it: outdated info, obsolete or even people's opinions changed on a certain topic.

    That said, adding actual new context to an old topic is mostly accepted. In the case you have presented, however, all that was added was: "Me too", which is generally not adding too much to it and thus marked as resurrecting.

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    @drunkpunk138 said in Resurrecting Forum Threads.:

    That's my experience, anyway, and the reasons we would do so in the forum I used to admin not too long ago. May be different reasons here, I'm not sure. It's kind of a double edged sword: there are benefits to doing it either way, as well as negatives.

    Precisely :), so most forums tend to use the rule to not resurrect an old topic.

  • UrihamRayne
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    Like @drunkpunk138 said, it really is about relevancy, I got some topics of my own that are very old like my reconect feature topic that at this point is like 3 months old but it wasn't talked about despite being a requested feature for a long time, if it gets bumped its going to be considered a necro. I don't want to repost the thread again, it sounds silly but really it looks ugly in your profile having to repeat yourself so many times.

    In any case, respect the mod team decision, unlike in 4chan they actually do their job.

  • Lady Aijou
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    @A-Cranky-Eskimo Please refrain from the use of derogatory language against others on the forum, as it is a violation of our Forum rules. Your post has been edited accordingly.

    Derogatory Language
    Name calling, personal attacks and using derogatory language against Community Members, Rare Employees, Global Moderators or Deckhands is not acceptable. Using such language will result in a warning, then temporary ban from the Forums and a final warning. If the action is persistent or increasingly aggressive, a permanent ban from the Forums will be issued.

    @SurveyorPete Please refrain from calling out users on the forums, including staff members, as it is also a violation of our forum rules. Your post has been edited as well.

  • SappyElephante
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    Forum "don't use old threads" mentality is silly. If the topic has outdated or misleading information then by all means lock it down! But when a completely legitimate thread is locked down because the previous comment was from 3 weeks ago that just makes no sense. The forum just gets more cluttered and hard to navigate with each new thread created.
    Unfortunately this is how most online forums work.
    I never understood how people could get so upset over "necroing" a thread lol

  • Murkrage
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    @sappyelephante said in Resurrecting Forum Threads.:

    Forum "don't use old threads" mentality is silly. If the topic has outdated or misleading information then by all means lock it down! But when a completely legitimate thread is locked down because the previous comment was from 3 weeks ago that just makes no sense. The forum just gets more cluttered and hard to navigate with each new thread created.
    Unfortunately this is how most online forums work.
    I never understood how people could get so upset over "necroing" a thread lol

    Three weeks is not usually considered a dead thread, it's mostly anything older than a month. The reason for the mentality has mostly to do with the people involved in the topic you are reviving. They might not be there anymore or their opinion has changed which they then cannot voice.

    Imagine old news articles being put back on the front page simply because someone commented on it. That's more or less how it is with forum posts.

  • CaptnJaq
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    Typically, if that's the case, you can always go back of the original thread and tagged it within the "revived" and separate thread... like how Stacky did the recipe thing.

    I'm just glad they allow it to be revived up until 30/31 days.

    HOWEVER...

    what I'd like to see if SOT-F being able to just auto lock any thread on the 32nd day so no pirate can be accused of playing favourites.

    ...but I think that's more of a "SOT-F" thing than a "SOT" thing.

    ..lighbulb!..

  • Murkrage
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    @captnjaq said in Resurrecting Forum Threads.:

    what I'd like to see if SOT-F being able to just auto lock any thread on the 32nd day so no pirate can be accused of playing favourites.

    Not a bad idea, actually. Just archive them after a certain amount of time without any activity :)

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