Potential Flaw In Current Game Design

@dragonsire2016 said in Potential Flaw In Current Game Design:

@ducklol1337 I disagree, until the percentage of PLis much higher. The biggest pool of players are no PL and that is where they will focus, until much much later.

You disagree because that's your opinion? Or you disagree because Rare said they wont do anything till 20%? Personally I'm interested in knowing why you feel like this......the "Pool" of Pirate Legends would be exponentially larger in size if it wasn't for the fact people have left the game because with the reveal of Pirate Legends content and how hard you ultimately have to farm to become one, the time put in and reward you get is very one sided and they want to feel more rewarded for the time invested. Also there isn't a chance you had time to read that entire post by the time you commented, you saw "pirate legend + content" and decided to copy and paste [Mod edited] opinion. People dont play for the tuts, people dont play for the mid game, people play and stay for the end game, and without an end game.........you can hardly be surprised the Pirate Legend "pool" isnt larger

Personally when you have 26 chests handed in, 316k metres sailed, 31 voyages completed, 59 skulls cashed in, 48 merch crates sold, and 209 islands visited..........and have played since 13th June......I will absolutely not take your opinion seriously

@lucky-monkee said in Potential Flaw In Current Game Design:

@ducklol1337 its about the journey, not the destination.

there is no endgame here. nor there will be if had to guess.
endgames end stuff. this is an online sandbox game.

Next you want endgame to gta online.

Pirate Legend is end game which you get too from getting max level (end game) on 3 factions. From what im aware they have already said they will begin to bring out content for Pirate Legends when 20% of the playerbase are Pirate Legends....quite positive you didn't read my post, it was exactly the last thing that was written/typed. 20% isn't good enough, this game will be dead before that happens, which is unfortunate and avoidable.

Also this game is MUCH more than just a sandbox game, if you think it's limited to just that then more fool for you

Sorry your post was verry long so I didn't read all of it.

You're saying there should be more for legends to do, but then you complain about people who left before becoming legends because there's nothing to do.

Then you complain about the fact that rare makes content for all to enjoy in stead of focussing on legends?

I'm confused.

The flaw is in the perception SoT is an MMO. We all must grind to max level, right? Because that's what pirates do, yarr!.

SoT is a social experiment, a game based on promoting positive encounters.
It's uniquely awesome in it's ability to do something not seen before.

It's only flaw is it runs on human behavior good and bad.

I know this has nothing to do with being a PL.
I can only assume Rare knows.

you make some good point.
Legend here to, an have only played the event for a couple of day.
Don't think that grind = fun.
an I only really grind the last lvl of merchant solo 47-50, but having fun with other players got me to 50-50-47

The only thing Athena voyage gives, is that you can share with players who hasn't reach Legend.
what I don't think is more content, but just more of the same with a little carrot of getting a new voyage to lvl up

Think that could be more involved being a pirate legend that is not game-breaking, but for the case of fun encounters an new meaningful contents getting to legendary

quike idea of the top of my head.
Legend can take a Legendary ship from the hideout, where there is some termes if taking that ship, an they should all look different in some way, so you can see what the legend are doing
Like "Spanish treasure galleon" that have to visit every fort an fill the boat with treasure an return to the hideout

Pirate hunter: where you have to hunt some ship that have sunk other pirates for then to return
Maybe give the ship 6 cannon on the sides an 2 in the front

OP,

I think your rant was a little over-done. Honestly, after reading it twice, it sounds more like you're the type that just dove into the game, did the content as quickly as you could and now you're upset because there is nothing more for you to do, when Rare probably designed the game to be taken a little slower than that. As you bragged in your post about how many times you do an event in one day, many of the players who Rare tends to target with content don't. I've been playing since Beta, I have yet to actually do any of these special events and am casually moving up the progression ranks with the various merchants for the mere fact that I don't see the point in rushing to the end when there isn't much new to do.

Don't get me wrong, I want to get to PL with my crew. But we have so much fun working towards it, that rushing to get there is pointless.

I do agree that PL should have content that only PL should get access to. Special voyages, maybe a special ship (man o' war) that only PLs can choose on the load screen. Maybe a new map that only PLs can access with tougher NPCs, more powerful weather, treasure maps that aren't so precise in showing where the treasure is, things like that.

But Rare is doing right by making sure that those who don't rush through the content have new stuff as well. As it was stated before, it's the journey not the destination.

But rather than rant on Rare, perhaps you should take a look at your own play style. Relax a bit and try to take things slower.

And maybe not try to devalue another poster's opinion by bragging about how much you've done and acting like if they haven't matched you or done more than you their opinion isn't valid. That kind of elitist attitude can devalue your words in the eyes of others just as easily.

I don't understand the idea of replayable content = exclusive content that gives rewards.

Did the keg skellies make voyages more dynamic, same with meg, and therefore more repayable because its more unique with each iteration? What you seem to be asking for is not replay-ability, but something different to play when you reach a particular point.

I don't understand why people like "end game" content. Here is some content that you can only partake in at the end and barely has any baring on the rest of the game! Its almost like we could have made 2 entirely different games built around different types of mechanics.

@savagetwinky

I have often asked questions like this about other RPGs. You spend the whole game building up and grinding to get that special weapon or gear and its usually near the end of the game and only used to beat the final boss. Then that awesome gear/weapon is useless if you can't go back and replay the game with it.

Working towards something is great, but often the cool stuff should be given mid-game so you can use it within the game world for more than just the final stages.

@kiethblacklion Honestly I never got the point of "gear". You play the game and you become handicapped... your forced to play more to be able to play the game, only to be handicapped again.

Or something like diablo where you play 1000 hours just so you have optimal gear to PvP.

The only gear that I enjoy is when it unlocks new ways of playing the game / strategies. Because it gives more variability and different tactics during the game play.

@ducklol1337 I agree that a lot needs to change in relation to this game, but honestly if you can't deal with what it takes to get to legend, then maybe that is not a goal you should have right now?

Of all the people that I know that were grinding hard to get to legend, or trying to "cheese" their way there... they have ALL quit totally. They cannot stand the game now.

I took my time. I did voyages the way they are meant to be done. No cheese... no grind...

I am a pirate legend at Athena's 10. I am not bored. I still play daily.