Too Much PVE In State of Decay 2, plus why no safe zones?

@gloog
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@logansdadtoo this is serious stuff here.

@gloog You should have at least read about the 1st one. All the things you don't like, are exactly what the game is supposed to be like. It's about the zombies, and it's always had the 'die and your done', due to the fact that you can recruit more characters. It's exaclty like the 1st one, with more depth and features, as advertised.

@hoppentosse said in Too Much PVE In State of Decay 2, plus why no safe zones?:

@gloog sagte in Too Much PVE In State of Decay 2, plus why no safe zones?:

The game will die unless they make these changes.

how come all of those who not get the idea of the game yell it'll die... just let it go, if it is not what you thought it would be. neither will it die 'cause you don't like it, nore will there be a redesign of it's basics.

They do it because adding drama makes them feel more important.

@RumHam636 I'm more sad some people aren't seeing the tongue in cheek critique of the forum 😂

@Foxdodge or could nerd accuracy while jumping or prevent reloading

@Zeffin
That's just straight up wrong. Explore https://www.seaofthieves.com

You don't even need to go to the 'about' section.

The very front page:
"A treacherous shared world: adventure across a vast ocean where every sail om the horizon means real players who may be friend or foe."

It just takes a very blind and uninformed consumer to fit the bill you are making.

The game is nothing but a bunch of repetitive fetch or kill quests, Undead Labs pls, also no passive mode so I can drive around without getting zombies all over my vehicle, beating it up to no end?! How am I supposed to reach zombie legend with all these griefing zombies!

@zeffin said in Too Much PVE In State of Decay 2, plus why no safe zones?:

@gloog said in Too Much PVE In State of Decay 2, plus why no safe zones?:

@Zeffin
That's just straight up wrong. Explore https://www.seaofthieves.com

You don't even need to go to the 'about' section.

The very front page:
"A treacherous shared world: adventure across a vast ocean where every sail om the horizon means real players who may be friend or foe."

It just takes a very blind and uninformed consumer to fit the bill you are making.

Go watch all the pre launch videos. You see them stressing the cooperative nature of the game not the Kill on Sight game it really is.

Zeffin

Perhaps it's simply a matter of perception, but I interpreted those statements to be in regards to the cooperation with your crew than with randoms. I always remember the emphasis of protecting loot from other players, maybe even as far back as the E3 reveal (although my memory is a bit foggy going back that far, but there is a reason this game stuck out in my head and I'm pretty sure it was the PvP promise. I could be wrong on that one)

That being said, cooperation among random crews isn't unheard of, and I'd argue that the nature of most encounters makes them that much more special and memorable when they occur. I probably have one of these encounters once a week, and each time it's a great experience.

@drunkpunk138 said in Too Much PVE In State of Decay 2, plus why no safe zones?:

@zeffin said in Too Much PVE In State of Decay 2, plus why no safe zones?:

@gloog said in Too Much PVE In State of Decay 2, plus why no safe zones?:

@Zeffin
That's just straight up wrong. Explore https://www.seaofthieves.com

You don't even need to go to the 'about' section.

The very front page:
"A treacherous shared world: adventure across a vast ocean where every sail om the horizon means real players who may be friend or foe."

It just takes a very blind and uninformed consumer to fit the bill you are making.

Go watch all the pre launch videos. You see them stressing the cooperative nature of the game not the Kill on Sight game it really is.

Zeffin

Perhaps it's simply a matter of perception, but I interpreted those statements to be in regards to the cooperation with your crew than with randoms. I always remember the emphasis of protecting loot from other players, maybe even as far back as the E3 reveal

Yeah, theres always been an emphasis on open consequence and choice. I've always perceived it as crew cooperation and the rest being up in the air (hostile/friendly crews).

That being said, cooperation among random crews isn't unheard of, and I'd argue that the nature of most encounters makes them that much more special and memorable when they occur. I probably have one of these encounters once a week, and each time it's a great experience.

Cooperative encounters are great. They are memorable because they usually require some special circumstances in the game i.e. a galleon at a skull fort has prompted me to team with another sloop a number of times. Encourage RARE to make more of these situations is the best bet on the forums. We all know one more PvE server safe zone thread will kill gloog.

Regardless of perception, @Zeffin it takes a really oblivious purchaser to not know what they are getting.

@musicmee said in Too Much PVE In State of Decay 2, plus why no safe zones?:

@gloog They need more enemies... killing zombies over and over again gets a bit repetitive :P

This could either be a really strong tongue in cheek critique that SoT would be horrible with just skeletons as the only antagonist or... maybe the forums have dragged me that deep into the sarcasm hole. Help.. 😛

@zeffin said in Too Much PVE In State of Decay 2, plus why no safe zones?:

@gloog

Not oblivious. I played the Alpha. I played the Beta as well. The experience was much more cooperative then. So I pre-ordered.

Besides me not agreeing with that observation at all (the December and on tests were exactly like live), the same friction-creating game designs were in place in alpha/beta as they are in for live.

I don't know who could play the tests, know there isn't any major reasons to cooperate outside of crew, know the entire system was essentially collect loot/protect loot/take loot and still reach the conclusion that the game was going to be about exploration and other crews cooperating.

It's a pvevp game.