Feedback regarding the functionality of EAC

@tygrahrrr
You want an honest answer well the problem with cheater is that it is an arms race in which Rare is not actively participating and we are the victims of it all we can do is write and talk about this problem and pray that someone will listen to our prayers EAC is not working, and it won't work Rare should devote one season and instead of new content fix the game once and for all, the problem will never completely go away but it may be better, you have to fight and not give up.

https://www.seaofthieves.com/pl/community/forums/topic/172429/it-s-not-even-funny-anymore

The post is practically the same as yours, one of many and there will be even more, keep it up, Pirate, good luck at sea.

@sir-patrick1241

I know and back in the day I was the one who was accused of incentivizing others to cheat. It's ludicrous. I hate cheating more than anything and I'm done fighting and raising my voice. It's fine - if they don't care, why should I care anymore, right?

Have a good evening, everyone.

@guildar9194
Tell that to them

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So what if they ban 100 or even 300 cheaters, they can come back immediately thanks to the game pass, you don't need magic, you need will, the fact that Rare doesn't say much about this problem says a lot, there are plenty of games in which Anti cheat works better DBD works on EAC and there is no such disaster as you tell me in all my posts that it works, why is the game in such a state, why are cheaters laughing at us and EAC?

I just want to point out that Rare has recently banned two players that I reported that were blatantly cheating. They respond with:

"One or more players that you recently reported were investigated and permanently removed from Sea of Thieves based on the evidence yourself and others have provided."

Happened literally 4 days ago within 4-5 hours of me sending in the report with video evidence.

It's really tough to catch all of the cheaters, especially the ones that only use their cheats when it's absolutely necessary, (to get a clutch kill). So in that regard there is still work to be done.

But please stop saying that they don't remove or ban cheaters. They certainly do.

There is not a single anti cheat in the world that is 100% effective, and the issue isnt how easily people can bypass the anti cheat, its how easily people can bypass bans in this case. If some one cheats and gets banned right away, but can get back in within the hour, they can keep changing things until something gives. They need to implement some sort of id to each steam account build of the game, and when one account id is caught, it should implement a steam account ban.

Account bans are a tool that every dev team can use as they see fit, but most dont seem to ever utilize. That would solve a lot of problems if they did.

@rare-jumbie

"Based on the evidence you and others have provided"

Based on this, you were not the first player to report either one or both of these players. If it was entirely blatant, they shouldn't have needed multiple reports to come to that conclusion. This could be days/weeks of cheating, but it does show the importance of filing the report. I find myself saying "why bother" since the accused will just make a new account that's basically free, and they likely have burners through whatever cheating service they use to load up immediately- but to say they do nothing is just wrong. They have to be certain the punishment is just and need the appropriate evidence.

It's just disheartening in hourglass when I face someone who unloads my cannon and immediately boards and turns into a floating blunderbuss with a gamertag like 'rare sucks 4726'

There has to be a better way or this game will suffer the fate of other games that failed to stop the influx of cheaters. I have no idea how to improve this, but EAC is clearly not working as intended

@guildar9194 Good idea.

@rare-jumbie

You don't get it, right? Do you think the people that got banned care about their account getting banned?
They create a new pirate with a new email and continue like 5 minutes after being banned.

The issue/problem/call it whatever is so easy: as long as there are no permabans, NOTHING will change. Nothing.
In fact there are guides about how to remove that as well.

That is the unacceptable.

And if you don't believe me, search google and you'll see the download numbers. It's pathetic.

@guildar9194

As far as I know, Microsoft does. But they can circumnavigate that by switching hardware and using hwid spoofers. It sucks.

@tygrahrrr EAC is not a one stop shop solution that fixes everything. Rare clearly said that this is the first step and multiple more will be implemented, this and the mixture of player reports should be done to keep Rare aware of new cheats and possible exploits. They will adjust their programme over time but the cheaters are always trying to stay one step ahead, and it’s not gonna be ideal, but Rare don’t want them in their game either, so they’ll be doing what they can. Give them time and be patient, that’s all you can do.

@tygrahrrr

Permabanning isn't particularly easy when you think about the fact that PC users have full control of their machines and are allowed to manipulate all sorts of things including their Hardware IDs, and device drivers. If there's one thing I'm concerned with is the fact that a player was able to crouch in retail which is baffling. There absolutely needs to be more server side checks to prevent players from doing things that they shouldn't, that also includes being able to load a cannon from far away.

@guildar9194 said in Feedback regarding the functionality of EAC:

You also have to realize; For every cheater you see; More are caught that you never run into.

And this is sadly just not true. Only the really blatant cheaters get banned. But not their SteamID gets banned, nor do they get a hardware ban, its simply a ban of the MS account. So new MS account created, linked to Steam and they are back on the seas in like 10 mins. Cheating in SoT has 0 long lasting consequences. On top of that you have the dark figure of subtle cheaters that may never get caught or are always on top of the newest EAC evasion.

One random example: I was revisiting all my game records the other day and found a video of a cheater I used to report. The ticket was one of the ones that got passed to the "internal security team" so you wont know the outcome of it. This was like a year ago. I got curious and checked their profile and what shall I say? "Last seen X hours ago playing Sea of Thieves"... its not guaranteed that even the most blatant ones get banned. Some just get away with it.