The two sides of emissary ledger

  • Recently, I've found myself seeing the emissary ledger as more of a chore than anything else.
    Whereas it was intended to be just another fun little thing for you to do on your spare time and get extra rewards for, it's grown fairly difficult to do on your own.
    I personally don't have that many mates to sail with anymore and where it'd be for reapers and eventually gold hoarders it's actually ok to get emissary ledgers, but when it comes to the other remaining ones it's no fun.
    It's simply become a stressful task where you have to tell yourself "Oooh I gotta think about getting my emissary ledger up this month and then the other month otherwise I'll fall back behind" and really gives out that feeling that if I don't get done with it I'll probably regret it at some point and so for that I really need to get over with it.

    It reminded me of the Insider Programme, a chores on a certain time basis. However Insider doesn't make me feel that way, It's just an hour every week of playing the next build...
    It's nothing much and not a lot of hard work to simply test out and give feedback about something.
    So this is where it pretty much all made sense to me, the only stressful part to emissary ledger is it's difficulty, so if that was to be lowered to a (still resonable) certain rate of difficulty that could be ok for solo sloopers and not take too long I feel like emissary ledger could finally feel like a fun task to be done.

    I'm sure many other people don't feel the same way about it as I do because someone there finds it easy and the other guy always had a full galleon crew under their hand, but feel free to speak your mind about this.

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  • I’m the opposite on how I feel about the ledger feeling like chore except for Athena Fortune which is really gruelling to reach the highest tier since their voyages/activities are really boring and chore like, hopefully this new PL voyage with fix that

  • I just did emissary ledger for the weapons

  • Most of the time you just have to do some events that you can get easily, in about 3 or 4 hours of monthly play you get the items.

  • I see the Emissary Ledger as a way of keeping me going back to the original factions and doing them again...

    Without them, I think I would be lost to Reapers and just maybe Gold Hoarder....

  • @butterfinger750 me and my mate said same thing last night. For me I get that Athena has to be more challenging, in terms of skelly difficulty, etc. I just feel like TH runs take so long and getting to grade 5 in Athena Emissary takes forever. Wish it wasn't so time consuming.

  • @lovelocc alliance servers…find them on discord…solves everything

  • @lovelocc said in The two sides of emissary ledger:

    Recently, I've found myself seeing the emissary ledger as more of a chore than anything else.
    Whereas it was intended to be just another fun little thing for you to do on your spare time and get extra rewards for, it's grown fairly difficult to do on your own.
    I personally don't have that many mates to sail with anymore and where it'd be for reapers and eventually gold hoarders it's actually ok to get emissary ledgers, but when it comes to the other remaining ones it's no fun.
    It's simply become a stressful task where you have to tell yourself "Oooh I gotta think about getting my emissary ledger up this month and then the other month otherwise I'll fall back behind" and really gives out that feeling that if I don't get done with it I'll probably regret it at some point and so for that I really need to get over with it.

    It reminded me of the Insider Programme, a chores on a certain time basis. However Insider doesn't make me feel that way, It's just an hour every week of playing the next build...
    It's nothing much and not a lot of hard work to simply test out and give feedback about something.
    So this is where it pretty much all made sense to me, the only stressful part to emissary ledger is it's difficulty, so if that was to be lowered to a (still resonable) certain rate of difficulty that could be ok for solo sloopers and not take too long I feel like emissary ledger could finally feel like a fun task to be done.

    I'm sure many other people don't feel the same way about it as I do because someone there finds it easy and the other guy always had a full galleon crew under their hand, but feel free to speak your mind about this.

    What I am hearing is that the game is harder when you are trying to do things by yourself which is by design. Not everything in the game can be catered towards people who solo sloop for whatever reason.

    The emissary ledgers are fine as is. They don't go away and if you plan your voyages accordingly you can get them all done each month.

    If you are struggling to have people to play with, try looking at the SoT discord or LFG on xbox. When my friends are not online I pick one on there and 9/10 times it goes just fine. I met my main crew from on there.

  • @lovelocc Realistically to get top tier in any given company ledger it usually requires however much loot it will take you to stack about 3 to 4 g5 flags and then turn in all of that loot at g5. So even as a solo it's very doable in a few play sessions.

  • As a heavy solo slooper who has all the ledger rewards, I feel the Ledger rewards need to be made even more challenging. It's a joke how easy it is to make the top 25%.

    Not everything in this game needs to cater to the casual. The Ledgers were designed to reward those who like a competitive challenge.

  • plan your work and work your plan

    2 efficient sessions per faction should be enough per month

    so that's 10 sessions a month

    2 a week with 2 extras during the most convenient time of your schedule

    Merchant: shipwreck voyages, this is a quick and easy one

    Gold hoarder: a few vaults and skelly sloops will do it
    The new forts. When soloing a gold vault you gotta be strategic. Lean towards doing more vaults rather than spending travel time on less valuable stuff in the vault. Get in and get out for less risk as a solo. Tribute chest, captain's chests, and a few of what you want. Worrying about the entire vault as a solo isn't worth the risk for a few hundred here and there, might as well hit 2 vaults for the best items and less risk than 1 vault for more risk and a bunch of travel time for lower end loot. Moving around is survival for a solo. Lots of time in one spot has to be minimized.

    Order: Skelly ships, farm ocean crawlers for gems, shipwrecks, skulls are one of the more common loot piece so they are around. Get grade 5 a couple of times and do the emissary quest on small to medium sized islands, just do the easy ones, don't have to do them all. The new forts as well.

    Reaper: Fleets spawn right by reapers. Put some holes in the them and let them sink themselves. Raise reapers after the boss sinks and get over to the loot. That's a grade 4 very close to the selling area and you're minimizing your risk by only focusing on the boss loot, which is plenty.

    There are also times where you can bring out the inner scrounger. Let's say you load onto a server and the ship that left before you joined left a bunch of crates and random stuff (maybe they left a flag or two) around and there is a reaper's bounty on the map. Put up reapers and touch all their random crates and get a couple of grades on the flag go grab the bounty and turn it in. It adds up if you seize the moment and opportunity enough.

    Athena: Roll athena voyages until you get a good one with small islands. You don't even need to finish them if you don't have time. Sometimes you'll get an athena keg and some good rng.

    Maybe this new quest will be less of a pain but until then just get even a thing or two turned in per day or 1 athena voyage done per week and see where it lands you towards the end of the month. It'll add up just stay consistent.

    When planned out it shouldn't be too bad. Consistency over big hauls or big plans. Just grab some loot and sell it where it's needed. It adds up alright.

    If possible with your schedule you can work in gold rush times as well but if you stress out it's not necessary.

  • They are all really easy to do solo. The only ones "hard" are reapers (because of pvp) and Athena (for the lenght of the voyages).
    For Reapers, when I was solo and I needed to rank up the ledger, I was using cargo run in devil roar. Load as much as possible of them (at least 40 if I remember correctly) on your ship without putting your flag. When you're ready, find an harpoon rowboat, put all the stuff you want to sell to reapers, and sail to the hideout. As soon as you arrive, detatch rowboat and use harpoon to drag you near the npc. After that, put flag on and sell all. You will receive flag rank increase for every cargo you sell. To be sure you get all the stuff of the ledger, try to have at least 500k points at the end of the month in every faction.

  • I feel like it is pretty easy, it is only about 500k emissary value for each which is just a couple of voyages

  • I've found myself seeing the emissary ledger as more of a chore than anything else.

    Chore or grind? But the best thing here to ask “do you want the items or not?”

    If you don’t care for them, don’t worry about being the best or high ranking.

  • @sweetsandman said in The two sides of emissary ledger:

    As a heavy solo slooper who has all the ledger rewards, I feel the Ledger rewards need to be made even more challenging. It's a joke how easy it is to make the top 25%.

    Not everything in this game needs to cater to the casual. The Ledgers were designed to reward those who like a competitive challenge.

    Not really competitive when the top people tend to be alliance server folks.

  • @dank-jimb0 said in The two sides of emissary ledger:

    @sweetsandman said in The two sides of emissary ledger:

    As a heavy solo slooper who has all the ledger rewards, I feel the Ledger rewards need to be made even more challenging. It's a joke how easy it is to make the top 25%.

    Not everything in this game needs to cater to the casual. The Ledgers were designed to reward those who like a competitive challenge.

    Not really competitive when the top people tend to be alliance server folks.

    Alliance Server players make up probably the top ~1% of the Ledgers. The other 24% are reserved for us folks that play the game how it was meant to be played...WITH RISK.

    That said, it's a shame they'll never be able to run an event like they ran early on in Emissaries that awarded the very best of the best with something special beyond just the regular rewards...Just another thing that alliance servers have ruined for the rest of the community.

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