I really hate that the time I put into this game is used up by other people stealing your loot. I am not blind to the fact that this is a pirate game but there is a difference between the way that AI can be programed vs the nonsense of human players just looking to kill you. I would prefer PVE with new enemies other than skeletons. I am an older player and I don't have the time that younger people have to play so I would like to have my time spent well instead of being trolled. Doesn't seem right to let a gallian attack a sloop.
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Have you considered teaming up with players? Running a solo sloop is considered the hardest difficulty, which you might not be ready for yet. I use the official Sea of Thieves discord often, with many crews sailing for different goals. Usually with a good crew, forts can take up to 15-30 mins if you are short on time. Here is the link if you need it: discord.gg/seaofthieves . Remember, the loot isn't yours until it's turned in!
@i00guitars Trust me. Tons and tons of players like you have expressed their dismay at the way PvP works in this game. They all get jumped by players who do not like change.
Personally I hope devs will implement a few changes to the way PvP works to discourage the kind of behavior that keeps casuals from enjoying the game. I doubt it will happen however. Between the players who can only do PvP if they gank someone and the devs themselves who take a quick glance at posts and note who has the most "likes", - theres little to no chance PvE servers will ever be a thing. Nor that PvP will get more balanced.
I speak from experience. I have tried to suggest a few changes. I got dumped on pretty hard. Find someone nice to play with or move onto a co-op game. It's the only way. This game stays the way it is. Sadly.Welcome to the forum and the game!
Keep practicing, take time to learn the game, keep an eye on the horizon, sell loot often, and team up with some young'uns if you can't manage by yourself!
If this is non-acceptable, I suppose despite not being blind to the premise of the game, it might not be your cup of tea either and that's fine too.
We don't all have time to play regardless of age or occupation, but the game offers plenty of activities of varied lengths to suit schedules.
@i00guitars said in PVE Please:
I don't have the time that younger people have to play so I would like to have my time spent well instead of being trolled.
but you have money to spend and the ability to look up if the game you are buying is worth your time because i can tell you with 100% certainty you wasted not only time but valuable money that you could have spent on a game you'd actually like playing be smart be better look up what your getting into before you buy because hypetrains over titles and genres has never done anyone good
I know that can be very frustrating but the good news is that if you keep on with the solo play you'll get better at the game than most. Yeah you lose allot but you also learn allot. Playing Solo is a chess game. You have to plan ahead and sucker the opponent into doing something that disadvantages his efforts.
Case in point: I was hunting skeleton ships when a crew came along talking trash and attacking me. I convinced them that I was brand new and begged them not to hurt me too bad. As a result they got extra careless and lost. They even chased me into the wind while always being directly behind me. What a surprise it was when they slammed into 4 floating kegs that mysteriously appeared in their path. Wow did they ever melt down on their mics. Always remember that crews following directly behind you are what kegs are made for. (You can stock up on them at inactive forts).
Firebombs are your friend if you solo. The aim is to sucker them into deploying swimmers before packing the firebombs into your cannon. Each swimmer is one less man putting the fires out. You can either leave them in the water or kill them. Most crew players never had to learn to play the game well or be strategic. Just circling their ship and harassing them with cannon balls will usually get 2 or 3 swimmers in the water within minutes.
Use empty chests in plain sight as decoys. That way when a crew creeps up while you're digging you'll often have one less crew member to deal with while trying to escape.
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I would like to see a PVE mode for tall tales but not for anything else. Think about how boring PVE would be for normal operations like animal gathering or just digging up boxes. In no time the game would become something similar to watching paint dry.@roguedk
I think the firebombs were a blessing. Since aggressive crews like to go swimming at the first opportunity the firebombs balance things out. The guy who goes for a swim or hangs out to spawn camp on your vessel isnt doing anything about his blazing ship.@roguedk A majority of the posts here are friendly and even offer advice. Just because we don't agree with OP's request doesn't automatically makes us meanies. Rare listening to the majority is not a bad thing. Majority says that our pvpve shared world is accepted and encouraged. The beauty is you can make friend or foe on the seas, but be prepared to fire a cannon if things go south!
A few more tips:
Use your eye of reach to snipe at crows nests. Most players stash their kegs there. One hit blows every keg stored nearby. This will at least take their mast out.
Stay in front of crewed vessels when possible. Swimmers cant board you if they cant catch you. They also cant fire on you when you position yourself ahead of their bow while you can slam them with firebombs and cannonballs. Keep in mind that sloops have a tighter turning radius than other ships while also having a speed advantage when going against the wind. Use that to your advantage.
Aim at the water line when firing cannonballs. Hits above the water line barely leak while low hits will flood a ship fast.
You can never have too many firebombs. They can be thrown impressive distances by hand or fired through a cannon.
Turn the lights off. You dont need them to see and all they ever do is make you glow in the dark. Only turn lights on when luring someone to attack you.
Never assume that crew players who outnumber you are good at the game. Very few are. You would be surprised by the number you can kill single handedly if you learn from your losses.
Scan the horizon religiously. Players who surprise you are always going to be more effective than the ones you saw coming from a distance.
Try the open crew option when you want a different experience. 80% of what you get will be terrible (or not have a mic) but the other 20% can be allot of fun.
I hope your experience gets better. I can promise you'll come to enjoy the game when you get a little better at it.
@i00guitars said in PVE Please:
I really hate that the time I put into this game is used up by other people stealing your loot. I am not blind to the fact that this is a pirate game but there is a difference between the way that AI can be programed vs the nonsense of human players just looking to kill you. I would prefer PVE with new enemies other than skeletons. I am an older player and I don't have the time that younger people have to play so I would like to have my time spent well instead of being trolled.
This is a bogus argument from another one-post-wonder. I guarantee I'm older than you. Time isn't the problem. The problem is that instead of learning to play and developing the skills needed for success, you blame your failure on game design and ask for changes. I find it bewildering that you'd come to the forums and, in your very first sentence, complain about "people stealing your loot" in a game called Sea of Thieves. Seriously? People who steal your loot are not trolling you. They're playing the game as it was intended to be played.
Doesn't seem right to let a gallian attack a sloop.
This is nonsense, even setting aside the atrocious spelling. Why shouldn't galleons be able to attack sloops? As a solo sloop captain, I can tell you that galleons are the easiest ships to evade. A galleon should never be able to catch you unless you allow yourself to be caught. Galleons maneuver like cows and are absolute snails into the wind. A sloop can run rings around a galleon and sail away into the wind. As long as you avoid boarders and stay away from a galleon's broadside, you can control the situation. The key is to be aware of your surroundings, and know how to handle your sloop. These are skills you can develop over time.
When you get beaten at chess, do you insist they change the rules so you can win?
@i00guitars My best advice to you is to learn to sail well. In a sloop you should be able to out sail a galleon no problemo. Brigs are a little more difficult to out run than a galleon but it can be done. I always tell people who like me does not enjoy the PvP in this game to get your sailing skills up. Check out videos on you tube for tips. I pretty much avoid 95 percent of all PvP interactions simply outsailing my opponent.
Its hard out there on your own I know. Another suggestion is always be aware of your souroundings. If you spot the ships first from a far that gives you ability to divert them. When I use to solo sloop I would put my ship in cruise control by keeping wheel straight and then run up crows nest do a good quick scan, run back down so on and so on. Yeah it was more work but I avoided so many ships that way.
Also one thing I made sure I did was I would always turn in my loot after I was done with anything. Another good tip is when I was solo and if I did quest that resulted in lots of skulls or lots of chest I would never store them on the ship if I was still working on island. I would hide them somewhere on island. Also lets say I had multiple quest on one island such as skull bounties then a treasure map I would do one quest cash in and then come back and do other, that way I did not have an insane amount of loot just incase I was attacked.
One last word of advice, learn some basic PvP skills. I think anyone who buys a game that they know has PvP in it has a responsibility to learn PvP. Watch videos for tips on that aswell.
@i00guitars You've sold 12 chests and have basically sailed around for couple of hours(57k metres). Maybe try to learn the game first. As others stated learn to sail, meaning park so that you can quickly get away, go agaisnt the wind in a sloop, check the horizons every couple of mins. Game doesn't have to be changed to accommodate you as you've barely even started playing and knew very well the premise when you bought the game.
Okay. Listen. All you scabs that keep saying "iT doESn'T NeEd fIXinG". Yes.
Yes it bloody flicking does.
My friends and I have owned Sea since its release and can play for hours. DAYS on end even. We do it to relax, quest, and generally have fun. But there's one reason, only the one, we ever stop for the day.
Tryhards griefing us unprovoked. For. No. Reason.
Players keeping the ship afloat to spawn kill us. (Scuttling is an option, but we lose all our hundreds of cannonballs, Food, and wood we've gathered over the hours we spend scouring islands prepping for Megs, ghost ships, and Krakens.)
Players holding our Capstan still so we can't leave an island, then kill us when we retaliate.
Players setting gunpowder barrels bellow deck to Kamikaze us.
An alliance of three galleons chasing us down to kill us for an entire lobby.
Players swooping in to kill us when we're almost finished with our raid then take what's hard earned. (Player problem, not game design.)
Players sinking us from a distance when we're fighting the Kraken and can't move.
Players sinking our ship when we're busy on an island then trolling with "lol yOuR'E StuCk."
And now, players tracking us by placing reapers chests that we can't find on our ship.
Every single time we stop playing, its because other players don't leave us alone. Despite us leaving them alone.
I get that PvP is supposed to be a big part of the game. Hell, it's a pirate game. It's expected. But PvP was solved by introducing Arena, which hardly anyone does to begin with.
We don't even care about the treasure, and we're already good at the game itself, and the rate that Rare pumps out new content is extraordinary. But we don't play it for PvP. There's no reward for killing players. No punishment. No achievement. Nothing. THERE'S NO POINT TO IT!
My friends and I are just sick of dealing with people.
The community has been begging Rare for single ship lobbies since the games first few months. And at this point it feels like Rare doesn't even listen to us. Even if they add friendly fire (to satisfy Player Killers) and make it so players and ships can't interact unless in a crew or alliance, that'd be satisfactory.@sabot-hailstorm
See, it's not an issue of winning or losing. We couldn't care less. It's that players are downright a***oles.
We just want to be left alone and do our own thing. And when others chase us down simply to kill us (cause OBVIOUSLY [sarcasm] there's nothing better to do), it's infuriating.
If my crew sees another ship, we ignore it. Other players? No. Immediate attack.
And we're just sick of it.@sabot-hailstorm
I agree with the sizes though. I mean, A crew of 2 on a Sloop and 3 on a Brig isn't bad. But we could get more done if we could have more people.@gr33nxblade said in PVE Please:
We just want to be left alone and do our own thing.
This is a shared world game, which means you share the game space with other players, and aren't just off on your own little world. This is a PVEVP game, it's never too late to understand that even as a day 1 player. Why refuse to partake in all the aspect the game offers if you like it so much?
But we don't play it for PvP. There's no reward for killing players. No punishment. No achievement. Nothing. THERE'S NO POINT TO IT!
Commendations, achievements and loot. Plenty of it all, check it out!
@gr33nxblade said in PVE Please:
Okay. Listen. All you scabs that keep saying "iT doESn'T NeEd fIXinG". Yes.
Yes it bloody flicking does.First, the name calling is not needed. You can disagree without resorting to that. It undermines your credibility.
Also, your characterization of the points made as "iT doESn'T NeEd fIXinG" is disingenuous. It implies people are making poorly thought out arguments. Read through the thread again, and countless others just like it, and you will see plenty of well-reasoned arguments as well as helpful tips that can make a massive difference in people’s success. What the community does not respond well to are demands from players that a game we love be drastically changed (the removal of PVP) because some players do not want to adapt and learn from their mistakes. The community resents people questioning the character and intelligence of those us who love the game for what it is, not what a minority want to change it into. Removing PvP from the current mix of PvPvE would further segment the population in a very harmful way. This has been covered to death elsewhere if you chose to do a search on the forums to get up to speed on this.
Arena was never intended to pull away PvP players from the main game. It doesn’t even reward players much for PvP. Turning in chests dug up from the environment is the goal. It is just another mode for players looking for a shorter SoT experience.
You mention several situations that have been a problem for your crew. Crews blowing up kegs below your deck. Sinking your ship while you are all on an island. Attacking you once they see the skull cloud drop, signaling that you have the key. Hunting you. Then you say you are good at playing the game. It sounds like you are good at the PvE content, which, to be frank, is not difficult to become proficient at. But when it come to other players you and your crew are not watching and responding to threats on the horizon, or protecting your ship as you work on content. If you pay attention to the way the game was designed you will see the developers are encouraging crews to skirmish. There is a reason the forts function the way that they do. There is a reason the reaper’s chest signals your position to other crews. There is a reason they create missions that involve one or two islands for crews to fight over. The game was never advertised as anything other than what it is. Promos show crews fighting one another, betraying alliances, and taking advantage of opportunities to take loot from one another. Welcome to the game.
@gr33nxblade Literally everything you just mentioned is not at all in any way shape or form griefing. This is a shared world PvPvE game. Now people being toxic and name calling and insulting may be griefing but the acts of piracy and pillaging and plundering are most certainly not griefing. Plus if you and you friends are as good as you say at the game then a little bit of pvp should be no problem for you. Your comment about arena being implemented to fix pvp is nonsensical. Arena was introduced as a quick condensed version of adventure for people with limited time who wanted to jump right into the heart of the action. Adventure mode is where your true PvP skill shines because it is in that mode where your ship and the treasure on it actually matter. If you continue to keep having issues with other players then i suggest better vigilance when it comes to checking your surroundings and learn to sail better because as someone who solo slooped a lot of my progress to Legend and stole majority of my treasure I never shied away from PvP or had issues with people coming after me. And sad to say but unfortunately for you PvP will continue to be a part of Adventure mode for a long time to come. This is not some peaceful sandbox grind nor was it ever intended to be.
Ahoy!
Going to drop an anchor in this thread as there are plenty of other threads regarding this topic.
Also, as stated in our Forum Rules, we have to make sure we are respectful to everybody in the community.
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