Cross Platform play has me ready to quit.

  • @shackelfourd I agree that it is an awesome feature to allow people like you to enjoy the game more! I’m glad you are able to play with people who are important to you life! Wouldn’t you feel that it makes more sense to matchmake you with other mixed platform parties? To me it does not make sense to force cross platform play onto Xbox users that are not currently playing with a member of the opposite party. That is the solution I am suggesting. I do not in any way wish for them to disable cross platform play, just give the player the choice as to how they would like to matchmake. Does that make sense?

  • @goodsamaritan11

    So much hate towards crossplay floating around on here, “PC PLAYERS HACK AND CHEAT IM SHELVING THE GAME FOREVER UNTIL THEY’RE ALL BAN!”

    Really? Really Dude?

    Players can’t even determine who is on XBox or PC half the time, but every time they die it is assumed that it was because it must have been a hacking pc player.

    I record every game session I play and have a LOT of hours logged on. Not once have I seen or recorded anything suspicious. Not once.

    A “kill cam”? Call of Duty much?

    Look if it makes you XBoxers feel happier and feel like the game is more balanced if it has a button to turn on and off cross platform play, then so be it.

    Personally, I’ve played on both. I’ve sunk ships of players who I know were on both platforms.

    The game is good, balanced, and fair to me a vast sum of players.

    If you want keyboard and mouse support for your Xbox than cheers! However, cutting out a large portion of the player base is only going to lessen your experience. I bet if they got rid of cross platform today, you Xbox guys would still find someone else to blame for “disadvantages” you feel have to exist against you.

    Just my two cents, wish you happiness and joy on the Seas.

    I play on both and personally know over 50 friends, family, and coworkers who I know all own the game and love it as is ESPECIALLY because it is cross platform.

  • @xxxrookxxx I absolutely agree with you! I do not want to insinuate that all PC players are hacking, some are just very good and make me look like a fool! I feel like the skill ceiling is higher for kB/m than for controller. Those that are good, have the potential to be very good. Playing casually and just exploring the game, I don’t mind any competitive disadvantage. However, when I am getting my grind on and trying to hit 40, I want to know I’m on a level playing field. If I’m loosing 3-4 hours of work, I want to know it is because someone else on console outplayed me with the same controller. I don’t even want to have to question hacking or m/kB advantage. Does that make sense?

    Also, no lack of love from me either! I love the community as a whole, just want to see it get better as we grow!

  • @shackelfourd But my point is that allowing the “option to choose” does not hurt the experience. Servers are not massive and needing to be populated. I have not seen a good argument to support forcing cross play. If us xboners want to be isolated then give us the option. It’s no skin off your back other than you loosing out on easy kills from less skilled players.

  • I've faced pc players and won sure the mouse gives them an advantage but they aren't invincible

  • They losing players for better reasons then that. I dont think splitting the platforms will be a good idea

  • Add KBM support for XBox. Bam! This thread and those complaints are dead.

  • The game was advertised as cross play. Taking it away would tick off those who like cross play. Think.

  • @danomite1989 not take away, make it optional. Just like every other game that is advertised as cross play.

  • @und4unt3d0n3 make an optional toggle switch to opt out, bam! But In all honesty, I bought an Xbox because I enjoy playing with a controller on a couch, not so that I can spend $200+ on peripherals so that I can be on a level field.

  • @goodsamaritan11 Crossplay servers would be a ghost town if it was optional. Just because you don't agree with an argument doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

  • @rk1-turbulence said in Cross Platform play has me ready to quit.:

    @goodsamaritan11 Crossplay servers would be a ghost town if it was optional. Just because you don't agree with an argument doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

    Why would they be a ghost town?

  • @GoodSamaritan11
    @rk1-turbulence said in Cross Platform play has me ready to quit.:

    I like crossplay, it lets me play with friends who don't have a beefy PC. And let's face it. If it was optional there would hardly be any crossplay since the Xbox players don't want to be disadvantaged and servers optimized for PC would be better since they wouldn't have to limit the game to make it fairer for Xbox players.

    In my opinion they should just let Xbox players have mouse support. This push for crossplay might just force their hand.

  • Pc players load back onto their ships from the ferry in the blink of any eye whereas Xbox can take from 20 seconds to a minute. This alone is an unexceptable advantage let alone the obvious advantages pc players have in combat situations. This is why moststrikethrough text all competitive pvp games give you a choice to segregate yourself from pc players if not absolutely not allowing crossplay. Microsoft is going to force this one on us though, which could kill this thing

  • @rk1-turbulence said in Cross Platform play has me ready to quit.:

    @goodsamaritan11 Crossplay servers would be a ghost town if it was optional. Just because you don't agree with an argument doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

    I disagree. I think there's enough of a community playing the game that no one will even notice the lack of any Xbox players that opt out.
    I don't think there's anything wrong with giving people a choice.

  • @caisterkaos you sir are a [mod edited]. You can literally Google and hell even go to Xbox .Com and look at the features. YES IT DOES. So before posting a downright ignorant response at least do your research....[mod edited]

  • I understand your pain. I recently killed the same 2-man crew 3 times over defending my solo sloop. I wouldn't have died if I hadn't run out of ammo and needed to use the sword to detonate my keg before a recent respawn killed me.

  • @rk1-turbulence said in Cross Platform play has me ready to quit.:

    @GoodSamaritan11
    @rk1-turbulence said in Cross Platform play has me ready to quit.:

    I like crossplay, it lets me play with friends who don't have a beefy PC. And let's face it. If it was optional there would hardly be any crossplay since the Xbox players don't want to be disadvantaged and servers optimized for PC would be better since they wouldn't have to limit the game to make it fairer for Xbox players.

    In my opinion they should just let Xbox players have mouse support. This push for crossplay might just force their hand.

    1. Your post supports my assertion that PC players are at an advantage. Why would I want this as a console player who purchased a console, to play against other console players?

    2. If you, your friends, and everyone else “loves” cross play, there will be at least 24 players to populate a server. These are not large servers, all you need are 24 people.

    3. Multiple other games implement optional crossplay without issue.

    4. Simply enabling mouse and keyboard support is not an acceptable solution. That’s the equivalent of saying that PC players can only use controller. Would that feel like a sufficient answer to the problem if you were forced to use controller?

    None of your points brings up any valid argument against making cross play optional. With an emphasis on optional. It is literally an “everyone wins” situation. You still get to play with your friends, Xbox players that care are able to opt out and feel justified. No one looses out here. The option for an even playing field is not an outrageous request.

  • @iduskk said in Cross Platform play has me ready to quit.:

    In some games like fortnite, pc has a significant advantage. But not in this game. When it comes to sinking your ship, effective sailing and cannoning is what decides battles, not gun skill.

    And you can assign item shortcuts on Xbox too. Really the biggest advantage is the keyboard so you can actually talk to people with no mics.

    all of which are significantly easier to perform while shooting thanks to a mouse and keyboard. You move like a tank so even something as simple as bucketing / repairing / sails or having to multitask in any way is significantly less efficient. I play with a controller on pc most of the time... unless there is a pvp scenario.

  • @goodsamaritan11

    None of your points brings up any valid argument against making cross play optional. With an emphasis on optional. It is literally an “everyone wins” situation. You still get to play with your friends, Xbox players that care are able to opt out and feel justified. No one looses out here. The option for an even playing field is not an outrageous request.

    Disabling crossplay is a stupid solution. Just have a controller only mode where keyboard/mouse isn't an option.

  • @savagetwinky said in Cross Platform play has me ready to quit.:

    @goodsamaritan11

    None of your points brings up any valid argument against making cross play optional. With an emphasis on optional. It is literally an “everyone wins” situation. You still get to play with your friends, Xbox players that care are able to opt out and feel justified. No one looses out here. The option for an even playing field is not an outrageous request.

    Disabling crossplay is a stupid solution. Just have a controller only mode where keyboard/mouse isn't an option.

    Not sure if this is a sarcasm post, but this would be basically the same result. I hardly think there is any need to call my proposed solution stupid though, since stupid is not an actual argument, just an insult. It’s a solution I could get behind. You would still have the loading desparity, but I can see them addressing this in future patches.

  • @nwo-azcrack I play on pc and you are wrong

  • @thrustfulhorse1
    'YES IT DOES' what?
    Aim assist? If so, you are incorrect, there is no aim assist for xbox one in Sea of Thieves. I suggest you do your research.

  • Today's "someone is better then me? Can't be! Remove cross play!" post.

    Calm down, it's a game and many of us enjoy the cross play aspect. Maybe work on finding a solution that doesn't remove a feature but rather improves it.

  • @daguse0 edited the OP to better represent what I am trying to communicate.

  • @goodsamaritan11 said in Cross Platform play has me ready to quit.:

    @savagetwinky said in Cross Platform play has me ready to quit.:

    @goodsamaritan11

    None of your points brings up any valid argument against making cross play optional. With an emphasis on optional. It is literally an “everyone wins” situation. You still get to play with your friends, Xbox players that care are able to opt out and feel justified. No one looses out here. The option for an even playing field is not an outrageous request.

    Disabling crossplay is a stupid solution. Just have a controller only mode where keyboard/mouse isn't an option.

    Not sure if this is a sarcasm post, but this would be basically the same result. I hardly think there is any need to call my proposed solution stupid though, since stupid is not an actual argument, just an insult. It’s a solution I could get behind. You would still have the loading desparity, but I can see them addressing this in future patches.

    Its quite a bit different and calling an idea stupid isn't an insult. It's just saying the idea is stupid. It's overkill because the problem isn't cross play its keyboard/mice. If lets say they enabled keyboard/mice for xbox... then the problem exists within the same platform. It already exists for PC players that have their PC hooked up like a console and play with a controller.

    Its stupid because you haven't actually identified the problem correctly and the solution is sort of not well targeted.

  • @goodsamaritan11 said in Cross Platform play has me ready to quit.:

    @daguse0 edited the OP to better represent what I am trying to communicate.

    Again, there are several post on this. It does nothing to resolve the issue, it simply splits the players.

    Find a solution, not a bandaid. Some ideas are adjustable controller sensitivity, or adding keyboard and mouse support. Don't split the player base cause you had a bad run in with another player.... We've all had it happen.

  • @savagetwinky said in Cross Platform play has me ready to quit.:

    @goodsamaritan11 said in Cross Platform play has me ready to quit.:

    @savagetwinky said in Cross Platform play has me ready to quit.:

    @goodsamaritan11

    None of your points brings up any valid argument against making cross play optional. With an emphasis on optional. It is literally an “everyone wins” situation. You still get to play with your friends, Xbox players that care are able to opt out and feel justified. No one looses out here. The option for an even playing field is not an outrageous request.

    Disabling crossplay is a stupid solution. Just have a controller only mode where keyboard/mouse isn't an option.

    Not sure if this is a sarcasm post, but this would be basically the same result. I hardly think there is any need to call my proposed solution stupid though, since stupid is not an actual argument, just an insult. It’s a solution I could get behind. You would still have the loading desparity, but I can see them addressing this in future patches.

    Its quite a bit different and calling an idea stupid isn't an insult. It's just saying the idea is stupid. It's overkill because the problem isn't cross play its keyboard/mice. If lets say they enabled keyboard/mice for xbox... then the problem exists within the same platform. It already exists for PC players that have their PC hooked up like a console and play with a controller.

    Its stupid because you haven't actually identified the problem correctly and the solution is sort of not well targeted.

    Bam! These are the kind of posts I’m looking for! You nailed it man! I had never considered PC players that want to play on controller rather than kB/m. Since I’m an Xbox player, it’s not something I would have every thought of! I can totally get behind your thought process and I agree that it would be a better solution that simply enabling option opt out. I will edit the OP to reflect your great suggestion!

  • @goodsamaritan11

    Ahoy there!

    We now have a dedicated mega thread for your feedback and discussion around cross-play and play-anywhere.

    Global Moderators and Deckhands will be redirecting and locking topics related to cross-play into the recently requested mega-thread to allow other discussions to be cultivated and not overwhelmed.

    If you see a topic that should be directed to a mega-thread, let the OP know or flag it and let us know!

    https://www.seaofthieves.com/forum/topic/55775/mega-thread-play-anywhere-and-cross-play-part-3

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