Increase maximum controller sensitivity (for PC players)

You play on 10 same as me. It is not near fast enough to keep up with those mouse users that can whip the camera, so currently controller users have to become M&K users to keep up.

I actually would love to see them remove M&K advantage. Will this upset M&K users? Absolutely, would but it would bring MUCH needed balance for PvP.

They do it to the cannons, why not the camera and guns and rest of the game?

The M&K crowd has WAY too much advantage in this game when it comes to competition. I would love to see Rare clamp down on it.

@ajm123 said in Increase maximum controller sensitivity (for PC players):

Higher then 10 lol I couldn't imagine what that would look like how could you even play

The same way that M&K users play.

@zig-zag-ltu I already said I didn't care.

@zig-zag-ltu I think it would be good to balance pvp by removing certain input advantages, no matter what they think.

I know it probably won't happen but I can hope.

@zig-zag-ltu said in Increase maximum controller sensitivity (for PC players):

@personalc0ffee How exactly do you think this would benefit the PC community and how would it work? You are on PC, you must have a mouse even if you use a controller, imagine having to drag it multiple times across the mousepad to move it around. Imo the game would become a laughing stock and such change would alienate the people.

If it really is such a massive difference and the game is unfair, best option would be to separate servers.

They already did that. But they didn't separate it by input, they separated it by platform. Xbox players can opt into Xbox only servers. IMO, this was the absolute worst thing they ever did to this game's community. It caused a massive rift between the two communities and it really hurt the social ability of the game because Xbox gamers on average I've found are more likely to chat, want to be friendly, and be social and fun. PC players on average, do not.

One, MK have plenty of benefits in combat, time to remove them or balance them down. I never once said there were to be any benefit to any specific side. I said it is about BALANCE.

Two, you would cap it to the speed of what we have now for camera on controller.

If they aren't/won't cap down the MK advantage then they NEED to make controller faster. You simply can not compete with the speed. The controller speed is simply not fast enough. IMO, these are design and balance flaws.

There's really only two ways to solve that problem.

@zig-zag-ltu said in Increase maximum controller sensitivity (for PC players):

@personalc0ffee I would not see any problem if they allowed to customize the joystick speed whatsoever, quite surprised there is a cap in the first place.

But putting limits on mouse sensitivity would really hurt the game imo.

I disagree. It would help the game by balancing it. The controller can not keep up, specifically as relating to speed of camera, with a mouse user. Not even close. It needs to be balanced in one of those two ways. It would be cheaper on developer resources to just cap mouse camera speed limiting it, to what we basically have on the controller.

When it comes to balance, I'm very unwilling to bend. The game needs more balance between the input methods, always has.

That being said, I have no idea why there is a cap of 10 on the stick. I've never heard any official reason. Most games with controller/gamepad support, won't even let you spin that fast. Since playing SoT, I always have to speed up the sensitivity from default because it isn't fast enough.

@zig-zag-ltu I don't agree. MK is unbalanced along side the controller.

@foambreaker said in Increase maximum controller sensitivity (for PC players):

@personalc0ffee said in Increase maximum controller sensitivity (for PC players):

@zig-zag-ltu I don't agree. MK is unbalanced along side the controller.

The best thing is for controller users to turn of cross play and never look back.

Which is sad and not an actual solution.

Rare should be doing more to balance between the two inputs so that doesn't have to be the case.

This game got so much less social on the PC side because of that opt out.

@zig-zag-ltu said in Increase maximum controller sensitivity (for PC players):

@personalc0ffee I know you don't agree, I am asking you to think about your propositions which make no sense in respects to ''nerfing'' mouse to the point that it becomes unplayable. Which is rather unreasonable and a bit selfish imo. Asking to increase controller sensitivy is another topic.

And of course MK is better than controller, so is a good PC in general with more fps and higher refresh rate.

I already told you, I was not really willing to bend when it came to my thoughts on balance. The game needs more of it for the competitive side of things between the two input methods. Simply saying use MK is not a solution. To me that's a problem.

The mouse would not become "UNPLAYBLE." Let's stop the hyperbole. Like everything else in the game that has gone through any kind overhaul, here's looking at you UI and barrel changes, it is going to take refinement and adjustment.

All I'm saying is I feel it would be better for balancing the game if the mouse turn speed was limited to the same turn speed as the controller. You can raise or lower that dpi as much as you want but you would not be turning any faster than 10, or 12, 15, 20 w/e upper limit they'd like to define to the controller in this hypothetical scenario. This ensures that every single player no matter their input device is on equal playing field in terms of the camera, not factoring in individual skill.

An example of unbalance this removes; is the ability for a mouse user to jump over the head of a controller user, whip their camera mid air and land while immediately facing their opponent before their opponent has had the chance to react or block.

That is unfair and it is not the only problem either when it comes to the use of the mouse in combat either.

Dpi switching when swimming is an example. For those not in the know, that's when you wiggle your mouse really quickly erratically while swimming or in the water, so your opponent can not target and shoot you as easily. This has the illusion of your guy dancing around the water very erratically and it is hard to follow the movement. (Btw this is considered cheating and will net you a ban if you recorded doing it. It is considered an advantage in combat, which is why it is being done in the first place, but I digress.)

For balance to be achieved for the good of everyone, buffs and nerfs are required, exploits need patched out, and certain hard decisions have to be made.

That is what I"m saying. That's the only way to solve the problem.

OP wants controller buffed and I would rather see mouse nerfed. Both instances arrive to the same conclusion. I just happen to feel that MK is extremely OP and always has been and would love to see it brought back down where it belongs.

Let me ask you this;

"Why are you able to whip the camera in the water and on land, but not on the cannon?" In case you don't know, you can not use the mouse to whip around the cannon. It is limited to a speed cap. Why do it there but not with the camera in general? It makes no sense to me.