Passive mode flag

The game is NOT based on PVP. It is a PVEVP game.
It is not a PVE game.
This has been hashed out time and time again.
This game is what it is. Do not expect it to change for you.

I believe pointing your cannons to the sky was the old way but the results will be hit and miss as they have always been 50\50 some will respect and some will open fire regardless it all depends on there boredom. If they have been sailing for an hour without a fight you can guess what they are going to do. Just make sure you hoist the alliance flag an happy sailing, if all else fails make sure to bring a few meme balls

@walkirius147435 said in Passive mode flag:
It wouldn't take anything from PvP players, so they could fight, and at the same time it helps people who seek different experience from the game.

Well this statement cant be more wrong in my opinion.
It prevents me from stealing your loot totally. It would negate the total option of PvP stealing loot. All the PVE White flag ships are taken out of any PvP possible situation. This does hurt PvP players ALOT.

Welcome to the forums (and the game?)

Have you played the game at all or is this an alternate account to push/spam an agenda?

@ButteryBarnacls @BurnBacon

@bloodybil Well done. Matey!

I think a lot of anti-pve players would chase ships with the peace flag down and find other ways to annoy them until they leave the server. I don't think this would work.

@illumiereli

I call myself a PvP player. And do understand your point of view on a PvE server. Why i advocate against a PvE server is because i support Rare and there vision of the game.

This game has nothing to do with pve, pvp, cosmetics.
That is all just icing on the cake.
The SoT Cake actually is a shared world expierence.
What Rare wants is a pirate game build solely around interactions. What interaction might occure that depends on the players. Everything that is put in this game is to create diffrent stories around these interactions.
This is the core of SoT: Interactions.
Maybe u dont like some interactions and even consider them bad interactions. Thats fine. thats your view on it.

Why do i pvp? To steal! I want to take your loot as a pirate thief! If they make a pve and pvp split up server. Than in the PvP server their be no loot to gain if people do only focus on PvP.

Little sidenote: I called myself a pvp player but i see myself more as an all round pirate. We voyage away and collect our own. But if there is a possibility to steal in a pvp way. We go for it. We bring all our loot, our kegs even the mega kegs. Thats how we fight. U beat us? U get a NICE payout.

@princes-lettuce said in Passive mode flag:

I think a lot of anti-pve players would chase ships with the peace flag down and find other ways to annoy them until they leave the server. I don't think this would work.

Me. I would find sooooo many annoying things to mess with people until they gave up and left or put the flag down then I would spawn camp..

For example. Lets say I can't attack or injure in any way but that's it. Anchor drop. Non stop. Super easy.

Let's get more strict, can't injure or interact with anything of that crew's ship. I would take their loot and drop it overboard.

Let's get more strict and say anything that they touch first is deemed as theirs and cannot be interacted with either. I would park my ship directly behind/in front of theirs and cage them into the island over and over again. Or, just sit on-top of the helm at all times while they struggle to get anywhere while I comment on their sailing skills over text, pirate, and voice chat until I'm thoroughly muted. If enemy players still have a hitbox I could block them under deck and just watch them be frustrated and slowly sink while I watch.

All of this is ignoring the fact I could get kite a skeleton ship over to them and bucket the skeleton ship constantly to keep it agro-ed on them.

What's really funny though, while I hate the idea of PvE only, Opt Out, and Safe Zones.. I generally leave noobs alone after I get what I want from them. Usually I steal cursed cannonballs or fort loot if they managed it but after I make my point I leave them be if they get the hint. If something like this ever got added (it won't, but "if") I would torment anyone using this to no end simply on principle.

@illumiereli @walkirius147435 How do I put this simply. Sea of Thieves is not designed nor capable of operating as a PvE only game. Take launch for example, when the game came out there was only 3 factions/quest types and forts. Guess what everyone did? Forts. Fort hopping was the meta and everyone learned how to fight for the forts. Why? Because the content the game had was nonexistent and we made our own fun.

Fast forward to the year 1 anniversary, we now have 9 tall tales and a pvp mode to satisfy the pvpers and adventure can be for the pve. Wrong. Arena is a second PvE mode because at it's core you win by chests, not kills. But I digress, the Adventure mode had content for once. It was amazing, then you realize, its all the same after you complete it. What happens when you get all the commendations and cosmetics? Game over. You beat it. Congrats.. Wooooooo. Did it feel good? You feel you earned it?You fought off easy skeletons and a few basic world bosses in your little safe space. The game isn't designed to be free of player interaction, it is designed to embrace it. PvP is how the game is made and the basic bosses/enemies will not keep your attention as is and you will only come back to the game to play new tall tales, if that.

You know what the real prize is in this game? Not the end, its the journey, the struggle. The PvE is not a struggle in the slightest, it simply takes time. You think your Athena 10 Pirate Legend means something? It doesn't if you just ran around care free digging up chests and turning them in. You know what does? Fighting tooth and nail every step of the way for it. I earned my way to my titles, but guess what? They don't mean anything because so many people just make alliance servers to instantly get what they want from the game. And guess what? They never learn, instead they just learn to let other's do the heavy lifting and never learn how to defend themselves from a basic Kraken.

But you know what is the most ridiculous about all of this? You guys already won, no seriously, you did. You have a PvE server right at your fingertips anytime you want. Maiden Voyage. It is PvE only because only you can enter it alone. But don't worry, it also gives progression. You even get 25k gold for free just by opening a trap door!

Your opinion is neither respected nor appreciated when you come to the forums of Sea of Thieves asking for it to turn into Merchant Transport The Game. You can raise your alliance flag and raise your cannons to the sky all you want, my Reaper's Mark is coming for you all the same.

#BeMorePirate

@walkirius147435 @IlLumierelI

This is a shared world; PvE and PvP, your goal and objective is on you and what you want to focus on. The tools are in the game to play either or both and it is on you as a player to accomplish it.

The question on the seas is how will you respond to the sails on the horizon? The question is not: What is their intent? Additionally you will sometimes fail and you will sometimes lose to others... that is the nature of a multiplayer game and games in general. If you cannot stand that you will lose at times, don't play games with other people and set your single players to passive/easy.

I enjoy the mixed environment, because I am not a purely focused pvp player yet enjoy a fight and your suggestion of a peace flag or PvE world will destroy the mixed world.

The flag would remove 1 out of the 6 ships for each player that chooses to do so. Additionally the grace period wouldn't function because if you are any good, you will be able to manage to be registered as 'non-combatant' to put it on even if you are sailing circles around another player.

Just making it there own servers will make the choice at the menu screen instead of an in-game choice which would mean that the world with PvP will just be more ruthless than it already is - want to fight: PvP server / want to voyage: PvE server, so what about all the people that enjoy the shared world experience?

Sorry, but being a PvE focused player myself: grinded the majority of my Athena Rep by doing Athena Voyages solo, have done Skull Forts solo, Skeleton Fleets solo, Tall Tales solo... I don't shy away from battle, but the choice of battle is on me and not based on that of an other. Just because you are a PvE player does not mean that you should be given an easy mode without the threat of PvP. Learn to be the pirate you want to be, mastery of your own style is required and the tools are there to do it. Take responsibility for your own game session instead of leaving it in the hands of others and blaming them. If you want to PvE only; learn to pay attention to your surroundings and how to sail, which if you so please can result in that you never cross swords or shoot at other pirates.

PvP is part of the Sea of Thieves. It's an integral part because it's factored into the difficulty of accomplishing things. Taking away the PvP factor and the game falls flat. I think the PvE in Sea of Thieves is great, but--as with all games--it's predictable. It's not difficult to master the basic skills to overcome the PvE, and it becomes very systematic. The real challenge of the game is to tackle the PvE objectives while dealing with the unpredictability of other players. This is the magic of the game and what makes it so unique. Sea of Thieves is a pirate game. Players are the pirates. Take that away and the game loses something crucial.

Like all games, Sea of Thieves has a learning curve. It can't be mastered in a day. You're not supposed to be able to breeze through PvE without worrying about other ships. Dealing with all the threats on the seas is part of the challenge, and it's a skill that takes time to master. This is not to say you have to become great at PvP. Not at all. But if you want to avoid PvP as much as possible, then you have to develop certain skills. And as you get better at the game, over time, you'll find that your PvP skills improve, too.

Many good tips have been given here and in other similar threads. What experienced players like myself want is not for you to "conform" to our way of playing, or for you to just give up and play something else. We want you to learn to enjoy Sea of Thieves as the game it is, not the game you want it to be. Because we love this game. And not all of us are necessarily PvP-oriented players. Some of us really struggled with PvP (and still do) but we took the time to learn and improve.

My crew is an all-female crew. We're all older women. We've logged hundreds of hours in this game and earned our place in the Sea of Thieves. This did not come easy. We had plenty of frustrating moments along the way. But gradually the balance tipped. We learned to take advantage of our strengths, while minimizing our weaknesses. We know we're not great at direct PvP, so we stick to naval combat as much as possible. We never get jumped because we're constantly aware of our surroundings. If there's a ship in the area, we know about it long before they could possibly get the drop on us. We've seen all the tricks and know how to prepare for them. We win almost all of our battles at sea. We're also smart enough to know when we're outmatched and aren't ashamed to run when it's in our best interests. We might not have the PvP skills of younger players, but we've got brains, experience, and great communication.

On the whole, we don't go out of our way to attack other ships. There are certain exceptions to this. If you fire at us, you'll be sunk. If you've got something we need or want, you'll be sunk. If you're anchored someplace we need to be, you'll be sunk. If we think you might be a threat, you'll be sunk. Communication is a big factor here. If you communicate with us, we're far less likely to attack. If you're cool, we might even alliance up. We've even been known to give loot and supplies to newer players. But if we think you're up to something (and believe me, we know), we'll be ready. It happens all the time.

I digress. The point is, please stop asking for Rare to change this game we love so much. It's up to you to learn how to play, and that includes how to deal with other players. If you put in the time (like we did) you'll find the Sea of Thieves an incredibly rich, rewarding experience.

@genuine-heather said in Passive mode flag:

It's up to you to learn how to play, and that includes how to deal with other players. If you put in the time (like we did) you'll find the Sea of Thieves an incredibly rich, rewarding experience.

10/10. This should be copy-pasted into every PVE begging thread IMO.

@jareto102 Have you noticed they have only three days of sailing the seas. Just three days! How could someone even begin to think they can make all these suggestions on ways to change a game they have only accumulated three measly days worth of play time on. How could they be so bitter about the PvP on this game after such short amount of time playing it? Honestly getting troll vibes.

Anyways as far as OP you have two days of sailing the seas, only two days. This is a PVEVP game as I am sure you were aware of when you installed. Plenty people like myself who do not like to PvP on this game do just fine. Learn how to play them game, two days is not enough. You will learn as time goes by that you can avoid PvP without having to fly some special fancy flag on top over your crows nest.

@walkirius147 If you do not bother to learn PvP skills on a PVEVP game then that is on you. I see you have sailed the seas for one day. If you do not want to learn the basic skills of PvP to defend yourself then atleast learn how to sail and keep a look out for other ships so you can avoid 95 percent of PvP situations like I have been managing to do for over 400 days worth of game play.

EDIT: I just noticed you are posting on an Alt account here and not your xbox account that you play on which is kind of odd but whatever still as @Sweltering-Nick pointed out you do not have much time on your actual account either. Spend some real time learning to play the game before requesting all these changes be made on a PVEVP game that you downloaded.

@walkirius147

@genuine-heather as PvE players are part of community, we also can ask devs for a better way to enjoy the game, we also bought the game to be a part of it, so we could get some pirate experience,

If no one is stealing, can one even call themselves a Pirate? I mean you don't even fit the bare minimum of the definition that involves stealing.

@jareto102 Yeah it does seem to be an issue. Sometimes I think many of these PvE whah whah accounts are all the same person. Paranoid maybe but I mean the stats of the posters kind of shows that they have not actually played the game.