Sloops seriously need a captain feature

You have made the biggest error in assuming its your ship to command. If you don't want to deal with crew-members than go closed crew, but the minute you go open, its no longer your ship. Its also theirs, if you can't cooperate with strangers, don't play with strangers. Its unreasonable to expect someone who is of equal standing and important (its in the Code by the way) to be forced under the will of someone who could be a control freak.

You talk about fairness, when its completely unfair of you to impose your whims to your equal.

If they turn it in, you still get the full amount for it so that is a complete non-issue. You still get credit for your "work" and didn't have to work to turn it in - they may have been doing you a favor in that instance. And you could have always taken the mermaid to the ship once they sailed away from you and been on the ship with them. If they left the ship would be right where they left it or where it respawned if they sank it.

If it happened as you said, you only experienced a minor inconvenience of having to stop what you were doing and taking a mermaid to your new ship location. Any treasure turned in you got credit for. If not then the more likely thing that happened was they sailed your ship into rocks or something else to sink it, never turned in the treasure (letting it sink) and then left - then they would have truly been trolling you.

I sort of agree about being able to brig someone on a sloop to control less than cooperative crewmates as I've had other issues with them (firing at others in my alliance as we were turning in treasure, grinding in front of the helm as I'm trying to steer the ship, etc). But at the same time I also realize the way such a feature can be abused so I'm on the fence about it myself. If we can't use the brig on a sloop then just remove it since it has no use on that vessel.

Easy, play by yourself or with friends in closed crew.

@galactic-geek said in Sloops seriously need a captain feature:

@yorha-2z Sailing a solo sloop is impossible?

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No. It's not.

Quoted for truth. Solooping can be one of the most exciting ways to play this game. It's also the most challenging, but far from impossible.

Parking with your anchor down is a death sentence for sloops a lot of the time anyway, unless you're in the DR then there's no need to use it for stopping.

@yorha-2z Solo sloop is hardly impossible, I play that way over 95% of the time and have reached Pirate Legend that way. Much easier than dealing with uncooperative players by far. It is harder (starting out that is), requires a different mindset and different strategies but is far from "impossible".

In regards to your recent post that just popped up, you can always hide them on the island and come back for them later (barring a server merge, lost a couple of Ashen Keys that way just this weekend before I could go back for them). I have to do this myself at times when a crew may roll up and just sink the ship on sight (or wasn't paying attention and left a hole in the ship allowing to to sink while unattended). Inconvenient, yes but still better than losing everything. Easiest solution - don't play with random players, I gave up on that during the first week and went primarily solo because of it (only playing with people I know or found to be trustworthy in game).

And yes it can be unfair to other players if you have the option to brig or kick them. Imagine that YOU joined a random crew and they did it to you, even if you did nothing wrong (the reason I gave up on open crews)? Not every captain will be fair to their crew, even if you might be. It is a double edge sword which is why I am torn on the issue as I see both the benefits and abuse of such systems - and have been on the latter side of it myself. That is why I am glad they added the feature of closed crews so early on so as not to have to deal with others idiocy.

@yorha-2z said in Sloops seriously need a captain feature:

@galactic-geek no it’s a pain in the butt that wasn’t meant for solo play.

Nope it wasn't. It wasn't supposed to be in the first place, yet people wanted to be able to play by themselves. Such is the price to pay to be the only commander of your vessel.

Trying to steer in a storm with holes in your ship constantly being made is frustrating solo, trying to deal with skeleton ships, megs and krakens solo is frustrating.

Frustrating, sure, but far from impossible.

Sloops were not made for solo and I don’t enjoy having to do 3 tasks at once while fighting off whatever.

If you don't enjoy it or can't pull it off, accept the fact that you need help but that you won't be necessarily giving orders or have them obeyed. (Unless playing with like-minded friends)

Not being able to accomplish something doesn't make it impossible. I can't juggle, yet other people can do it. Maybe with practice, someday, you will manage to solo a sloop and I will be able to juggle?

I think you need to just practise a little more.

I solo sloop almost all the time, I navigate storms, fix holes during battles, sink galleons and fight PvE elements. It’s just a learning curve.

If you really don’t want to do it alone, set up an LFG. Your more likely to find a cooperative player, but if your an idiot barking orders at them, it might encourage them to behave badly.

Set out clearly in your LFG that you want to be in charge, and request someone of a certain skill/ability level. Like a causal, a new player, PvP focused, PL ect

Open crews are a nightmare, generally best avoided, but what your suggesting would absolutely make open crews less tolerable.

@yorha-2z

Nothing I suggested is unfair to another player.

What stops a player on a whim to brig another player unprovoked? What stops a player from brigging another player because they don't like the way they sound? What stops a player from brigging another player because he wants him to leave so he can get that friend that just showed online? The fact that one person has power over the other demonstrates a clear imbalance between people who are supposed to be equal. This opens avenues of clear abuse that you refuse to accept. Here is the reminder of the Code you seem to miss.

Article 4:
Let each crewmate be respected as equal and free to follow their own bearing, speak openly and vote in affairs of the voyage.

Its quite clear you are incapable of cooperating with other people without treating them like they are invalids. You give the impression of being a control freak. You already have the solution to your problem. Sail closed crew, you now have the solo ship you want.

@yorha-2z looking for groups function, closed crew with friends or discord makes this a redundant issue and therefore such a feature next to useless.

@yorha-2z

You want to prevent the ship from leaving, mermaid back, drop that anchor and hold it.

There you go, you now prevent the ship from moving and can talk about the situation.

@shammy-mcred "Even though I've been pummeled by the game / other players many times, but still prefer solo to randoms."

• I would prefer not to play the games to randoms (open crew)

This would be really helpful, BUT there would be issues finding a teammate and it would take a lot longer because everyone will just start closed crew and then open it so they can be captain of a ship. Then there will be very few people who will go straight to open crew and they will probably end up with one of the other people who chose to be captain.

@yorha-2z said in Sloops seriously need a captain feature:

@galactic-geek no it’s a pain in the butt that wasn’t meant for solo play.

Trying to steer in a storm with holes in your ship constantly being made is frustrating solo, trying to deal with skeleton ships, megs and krakens solo is frustrating.

Sloops were not made for solo and I don’t enjoy having to do 3 tasks at once while fighting off whatever.

Ha, try solo sailing a brigantine.

When you do that comfortably you will realize that a sloop indeed is made for solo.

Its actually less hassle solo sailing it than relying on a crew member.

Its all down to experience.
Any ship can be anything you want it to be. Its just all about playstyle.

Push through the discomfort and it becomes comfort. Before you know it, you'll never wanna sail a sloop with an open crew ever again :)

i leave games when someone says im the captain its really infuriating having someone dictate how you play your game "do this do that dont do this and dont do that" bro i've played for 2000+ hours i know what im doing

@yorha-2z

It’s not unreasonable to not want your teammate to greif your game.

This is exactly what will happen if Rare makes what you suggest. All you have done is created a tool for players to grief others. If you join in on my ship, what stops me from doing what I said before? I can brig you on a whim, and there is nothing you can do about it except quit. You seem to be ignoring the massive faults I suggested earlier.

The fact that you desire a tool to magically control everything about the voyage without allowing your supposed partner/equal say in any of it does in fact make you a control freak. Mate, face the facts, you literally asked for a lock that takes control from someone, you don't even trust them enough to handle the boat without your express permission. How is this any different than putting a lock on the communinal fridge because you are paranoid someone might touch your lunch? Its not your fridge to claim rights to. Does it make right if someone takes you lunch? No, but it isn't your private fridge to suddenly make rules over and stop others from entering it.

If you can't handle playing with others, you have the solution to your problems. It is called Closed Crews. When you choose open crews, its no longer your game, it is now a team game where both of you have equal say in what goes on in the game. Using the mindset of "My way or the Highway," makes you a control freak.

@yorha-2z said in Sloops seriously need a captain feature:

@jollyolsteamed if they were on the sloop before you and they are already on a mission then leave. You spent zero time invested. You have nothing to lose. That person invested time stocking the ship, buying the quest, sailing out. To have your own teammate come in and ruin everything isn’t right

i can agree that this certainly is annoying but i hate having someone calling themselves "captain" 9/10 times they're going to be controlling and try to boss everybody around i guess its nice for the roleplay aspect of the game but then everyone is in on it i wouldn't want it to be forced upon us all

Seriously.... All of what you complained about is easily avoided, you just choose not to.

Closed crew solves all of this (Thank Rare).
Solo Sloop is amazing, get better at it and you'll be fine. (Oh and not hard to avoid storms..)

Yeesh, How about we just play the game for you since you can't be bothered to play it like everyone else does?

Come on man, this is just an aimless rant.

@yorha-2z usually about 5 mins before they leave as they notice they cannot do anything in the middle of the ocean and they move on to annoy the next person.

You act like I don't open crew, I have been playing the game since day one and dabbled with open crews from the start. Dealt with my fair deal of trolls and afk farmers who are way worse. At least trolls are online and there. Usually I just state the situation I can sit here and hold the anchor in the middle of nowhere till a megalodon eats the ship and we can start over no issues. Then they notice I actually am just sitting there holding down the anchor while asking them things like, so how long have you been playing? Are you enjoying this as much as I am? You know we could be earning mad coin together right now if you weren't so annoying and man this anchor is heavy could you help me put it down more it doesn't seem to move.

I am one stubborn pirate and can troll the trolls. Most of them are out to get some type of gold or satisfaction of being a troll and ruining your fun. Give them neither and they tend to move on quickly.