Hello and Merry Christmas. I have a problem, whenever I turn on the above preference in Arena, I never get matched. The game stays at "Searching the Seas" for way too long and nothing happens. Am I doing something wrong or is this option broken?
Prefer Xbox players with controllers not working.
The issue is more it’s hard to find an Arena game in general. Even during the recent reputation boost event I honestly sat for over 40 minutes to get into a game at times. The controller preference makes the already small player base even more divided. It does eventually put you in the “everyone” pool when it cannot find enough Xbox controller players (which more often is what happens in my experience trying the setting) but even once it does wait times are still awful. Wish it wasn’t that way but that’s how it seems to be with arena.
@the-lupino is right in this. The fact that the game also somehow lets undersized closed crews into the lobbies making them wait untill infinity to load is also damning for the game mode.
@captain-taben said in Prefer Xbox players with controllers not working.:
In the Uk not had a problem now, better since arena opt out. Got 15 matches in a row the other day. With different players all xbox only. Might play today actually.
I honestly wish I could say that. I’m on the US East coast and my experience is as I said in my earlier post. I seem to get trapped in loops of the lobby not starting the game because there is not enough players, then players leave because they are tired of waiting thus increasing the wait time even more. When Arena was newer though I did have experiences where I was getting into games quite quickly.
@sandaledpond889 said in Prefer Xbox players with controllers not working.:
@dislex-fx said in Prefer Xbox players with controllers not working.:
It's almost as if we told y'all this would happen...
Actually we did too. When we said it was stupid to release arena without the promised hard opt out, enough Xbox players walked away right then to make anything less a dicey proposition.
It does work well when traffic is there however, like double xp weekend was great. Just a shame rare didnt properly prioritize it to at least pretend like they cared what the Xbox population in arena was.
Yep, I've always said that arena, opt out, and Xbox kbm support should have all dropped at the same time. If the content isnt ready, dont release it. Rare managed to push away even more players with the release of broken arena.
I'll be keeping an eye on the adventure opt out...if rare fails like they did with arena opt out, and pc players constantly infect Xbox servers, I'll be right here, asking rare to fix.
@sandaledpond889 said in Prefer Xbox players with controllers not working.:
Indeed, same here. There's some hope tho, imo, because I do think Xbox populations on Adventure to be greater than on Arena.
But how many of that population will choose the preference? That's the number we're going to have to wait and find out.
@pomalotacusmk3 said in Prefer Xbox players with controllers not working.:
(...) I'll be keeping an eye on the adventure opt out...if rare fails like they did with arena opt out, and pc players constantly infect Xbox servers, I'll be right here, asking rare to fix.
Got any proof of that or are you throwing false accusations around ?
@captain-taben said in Prefer Xbox players with controllers not working.:
@pomalotacusmk3 said in Prefer Xbox players with controllers not working.:
@sandaledpond889 said in Prefer Xbox players with controllers not working.:
@dislex-fx said in Prefer Xbox players with controllers not working.:
It's almost as if we told y'all this would happen...
Actually we did too. When we said it was stupid to release arena without the promised hard opt out, enough Xbox players walked away right then to make anything less a dicey proposition.
It does work well when traffic is there however, like double xp weekend was great. Just a shame rare didnt properly prioritize it to at least pretend like they cared what the Xbox population in arena was.
Yep, I've always said that arena, opt out, and Xbox kbm support should have all dropped at the same time. If the content isnt ready, dont release it. Rare managed to push away even more players with the release of broken arena.
I'll be keeping an eye on the adventure opt out...if rare fails like they did with arena opt out, and pc players constantly infect Xbox servers, I'll be right here, asking rare to fix.
I'm hoping it works the same as arena, not had chance to test it yet. But with arena you load into a game and if it says sailing with all players. You simply quit reload until you get a sailing with xbox players on controller only. Once you are in an xbox lobby so to speak there is no pc players at all. Never seen one in 70 odd games.
Now if adventure works the same way once you are in an Xbox world hopefully that will be it.
So you can hard opt out as much as you want to.Yea i get how it works, the problem though, is this:
1 There are no Arena servers in Australia, even though there are adventure servers.
2 The opt out search fails before the region search fails
3 When the region search expands, the opt out preference is not re-establishedThe end result is always the same, 300+ ping, always on open servers...even though friends are sitting in an Xbox tavern waiting. The only way to opt out in Australia is to abandon a local crew member, and join a random that is in EU or USA.
@Lem0n-Curry
The above is what i meant by Rare failing at opt out. As for Pc players infecting Xbox servers...that is directed at the forced crossplay supporters, who take joy in guessing that if population is low, pc will be added to Xbox servers. Or guessing that server merges will be a coin flip as to what server type you land on. I apologise for not including enough detail. I did not mean to suggest that rare failed at arena opt out because pc players were infecting Xbox servers. I hope this clears thing up.Currently, when playing arena, every merge or new lobby tells us open lobby orxbox lobby. If adventure merges possibly allow changeover from open to xbox servers, the players should be given a grace period before the change is applied. This would give the players who specifically chose to opt out, a chance to sell and quit.
@pomalotacusmk3 said in Prefer Xbox players with controllers not working.:
the players should be given a grace period before the change is applied. This would give the players who specifically chose to opt out, a chance to sell and quit.
Then be warned, console brothers and sisters. Be warned and flee. Flee the coming darkness and huddle in your homes. Pray for safety. And pray for those of us.... who do not flee.
@pomalotacusmk3 said in Prefer Xbox players with controllers not working.:
@captain-taben said in Prefer Xbox players with controllers not working.:
@pomalotacusmk3 said in Prefer Xbox players with controllers not working.:
@sandaledpond889 said in Prefer Xbox players with controllers not working.:
@dislex-fx said in Prefer Xbox players with controllers not working.:
It's almost as if we told y'all this would happen...
Actually we did too. When we said it was stupid to release arena without the promised hard opt out, enough Xbox players walked away right then to make anything less a dicey proposition.
It does work well when traffic is there however, like double xp weekend was great. Just a shame rare didnt properly prioritize it to at least pretend like they cared what the Xbox population in arena was.
Yep, I've always said that arena, opt out, and Xbox kbm support should have all dropped at the same time. If the content isnt ready, dont release it. Rare managed to push away even more players with the release of broken arena.
I'll be keeping an eye on the adventure opt out...if rare fails like they did with arena opt out, and pc players constantly infect Xbox servers, I'll be right here, asking rare to fix.
I'm hoping it works the same as arena, not had chance to test it yet. But with arena you load into a game and if it says sailing with all players. You simply quit reload until you get a sailing with xbox players on controller only. Once you are in an xbox lobby so to speak there is no pc players at all. Never seen one in 70 odd games.
Now if adventure works the same way once you are in an Xbox world hopefully that will be it.
So you can hard opt out as much as you want to.Yea i get how it works, the problem though, is this:
1 There are no Arena servers in Australia, even though there are adventure servers.
2 The opt out search fails before the region search fails
3 When the region search expands, the opt out preference is not re-establishedThe end result is always the same, 300+ ping, always on open servers...even though friends are sitting in an Xbox tavern waiting. The only way to opt out in Australia is to abandon a local crew member, and join a random that is in EU or USA.
I really hope Rare will address this for the people down under for ping reasons.
I've ended up with people from New Zealand and Australia when playing early or late in adventure and enjoyed it.@Lem0n-Curry
The above is what i meant by Rare failing at opt out. As for Pc players infecting Xbox servers...that is directed at the forced crossplay supporters, who take joy in guessing that if population is low, pc will be added to Xbox servers. Or guessing that server merges will be a coin flip as to what server type you land on. I apologise for not including enough detail. I did not mean to suggest that rare failed at arena opt out because pc players were infecting Xbox servers. I hope this clears thing up.Is that why you use a term like infest ?
You think there will be loads of PC players around in the quiet hours just to be on the same server as people who hoped to be with Xbox-controller-opt-out only ?
Reaching a bit IMHO.Currently, when playing arena, every merge or new lobby tells us open lobby orxbox lobby. If adventure merges possibly allow changeover from open to xbox servers, the players should be given a grace period before the change is applied. This would give the players who specifically chose to opt out, a chance to sell and quit.
How long is it known that the opt out will be a preference ? And you just added a new requirement / excuse to blame Rare that they haven't build it the correct way ?
I don't think Rare would/should introduce this as such a grace period will be abused; if one would get such a message it would be an indication that they're the only one on the server and give them ample time to find another xBox-player to start a crew so they'll have a server for themselves as (I'm guessing) two ships on it will stop the merge.
And if they introduce such a warning system, it should work for the cross-play servers as well. It takes a certain time to activate our Xbox-opt-out-radar ...
AFAIK merging happens when the ship is moving slow (or not moving at all) and the crew is on the ship; what should the server do after the grace period ? Ask you to slow down so you won't run into barrels'o'plenty &c ? Should the ship on the other server be held in "limbo" while you sail to the outpost and sell or should they merge while in full speed after you finished selling ?
Rare build you a preference. When certain conditions are not met, the selected preference will be ignored. You always have the option to quit if such a merge occurs if you happen to be allergic for PC players, Xbox players with keyboard/mouse or Xbox players with constrolers who prefer cross-play.
I'd go even further, if such merges happen frequently because the opt-out servers are not filled enough there clearly isn't enough of a population to have such an option in place at all and should be removed again.
@lem0n-curry
Yea ok, no grace period. Just a notice after a merge, indicating what server type it is. That should be enough time to sell and quit."if one would get such a message it would be an indication that they're the only one on the server and give them ample time to find another xBox-player to start a crew so they'll have a server for themselves as (I'm guessing) two ships on it will stop the merge."
When the game has decided to merge, no ships are added to the server. Thats why players used to play for days without dropping anchor. Thats why rare added 'slow moving ship' merges. There are many forum users, waiting in excitement, for you to explain how to invite other crews to your server...but remember, you just explained how there is only 1 ship left, so please explain how to join a server that (1) has been tagged for shutdown (preventing new ships from joining) and (2) has no other ships to buy from other crews.But this is not a new concern...Xbox players have expressed concern ever since rare used the word preference. In fact, i have pushed for a hard opt out since forever. Rare's failure in arena opt out only increased my want for hard opt out. Sorry, but theres no new excuses here.
I'd go even further, if population proves to be so low, I'd say its because rare has taken so long to implement the feature that players, like myself, have moved on to other games.
You have been around these forums for a long time. You have been involved in lots of crossplay threads. You have undoubtedly seen the posts from players who intend to switch to Xbox, just to stomp on players who opt out. If the opportunity exists for those players to intentionally infect servers while still playing on PC, they will take that opportunity. Especially after watching certain toxic streamers demonstrate it.
Again, as long as Rare actually notify players that server types have changed, i guess that will be acceptable.
@pomalotacusmk3
I guess if a server is tagged for shutdown and thus won't allow new crews that bit of the argument goes out of the window.It would be daft from Rare to introduce an Xbox-controller only pool that could be entered by PC players. I presume that they build it thoroughly, as I am hoping to no longer see hatred filled posts by toxic players here on this forum, but I guess that's a pipe dream.
I have no intention to sneak into an Xbox only pool (other than maybe testing purposes) and the Xbox I have is way too old for causing havoc otherwise :). But you are now accusing players who usually sail on PC and can (and will) sail on an Xbox of trying to cheat in advance ?
@captain-taben said in Prefer Xbox players with controllers not working.:
most xbox players I play with would abandon a lobby if the preferance was not met. Myself included.
Mmmmm, sounds like an exhaustive study.
Sorry, I just like to pop in every now and then to remind all the opt out folks that they aren't speaking for all XBox players.
Nothing personal, yer post just happened to be the last in line.
It's cumulative. I've been involved in these threads since they first started and it's just a tone that seems to permeate them in one way or another.
Apologies if it's out of line in this thread, but after awhile they all start to blend together. =P
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