Shot in the Back while Shopping

@mighty-ace123 said in Shot in the Back while Shopping:

@genuine-heather that's quite funny actually :) what did the shopkeeper say? Did he call the piratepolice?

Hah, if only! There are things you just don't do, and shooting a girl in the back while shopping is definitely one of them. Hrmph!

@genuine-heather I have no idea what someone gets out of doing that... not cool...

I've always argued against safe zones, but I'd also like to see some sort of in-game recognition of players who do stuff that I can only describe as 'uncool'. People should be free to do whatever they like, but I don't think they should be allowed to stay totally anonymous...

@genuine-heather wish I had done it if I had known it would have gotten such a big response. Its a Pirate game and literally anything goes on shore or on the seas. They could have been carrying high value loot and weren't about to potentially let a risk just keep chilling in the area. Or it could have simply been fun. Don't take the game so seriously that you can't appreciate someone managed to sneak up on you. If its not a rare thing then you need to get better at the game, if it is rare then appreciate them outplaying you.

Maybe a wanted system is a good idea, like I’ve read fallout 76 will be implementing. Meaning kill whoever and however many times you like but you become more of a target somehow every time you do and there’s a rewards for the crew/crews that end up taking you down. Then it’s reset. I don’t think the outposts should be a safe zone, it’s leads to camping and knowing you can steal with no way of the other crew being able to kill you and get you to go away. But that being said maybe being invincible while in the vendor screen is another good idea.

@zherron-vorse said in Shot in the Back while Shopping:

@genuine-heather wish I had done it if I had known it would have gotten such a big response. Its a Pirate game and literally anything goes on shore or on the seas. They could have been carrying high value loot and weren't about to potentially let a risk just keep chilling in the area. Or it could have simply been fun. Don't take the game so seriously that you can't appreciate someone managed to sneak up on you. If its not a rare thing then you need to get better at the game, if it is rare then appreciate them outplaying you.

Well aren't you a snarky little pup. This was hardly a "big response" and certainly not taking it seriously. It was still a cheap shot, by any measure. By the way, your snide "get better" comments are sort of stupid, considering, as I stated in my post, I was shot in the back while shopping. But hey, thanks for contributing.

@hoppentosse said in Shot in the Back while Shopping:

Come on, you were too greedy and didn't take the time to cover the situation. If there was someone there who could shoot you, so was his ship or a mermaid transport. You're trading on a pirate island, not in a supermarket.

Let me add some context. I logged in. I shopped. I hadn't even been to my ship yet. It was totally cowardly and unnecessary. Before another person accuses me of taking everything "too seriously," I'm able to laugh it off along with a few others here. But at the same time, I think it's a pretty stupid way to play the game. If that's what makes you feel good, frankly there's something wrong with you. And the snarky comments after the fact just drive home the point. Some people are simply incapable of being decent human beings. We all play this game together for the purpose of mutual enjoyment. For crying in the grog, at least show some creativity, or an ounce of sportsmanship. It's just a shame people can't rise to even that minimal level.

But whatever. Sign of the times, I suppose. Thankfully, there are just enough halfway intelligent people to keep me from totally losing faith in humanity.

@lefaux2 said in Shot in the Back while Shopping:

I imagine you fighting back and I don't want to die.

Like I said. Cowardly. And I certainly wouldn't call it "clever." I might give you "ruthless" but that's really giving too much credit. It was mostly just stupid.

@lefaux2 said in Shot in the Back while Shopping:

@genuine-heather said in Shot in the Back while Shopping:

Like I said. Cowardly. And I certainly wouldn't call it "clever."

I might give you "ruthless" but that's really giving too much credit. It was mostly just stupid.

I do understand you're upset. That's legit, been there myself often.

From an objective POV it's everything other than stupid.
You mention a one-shot kill, so I figure blunderbuss. Blunderbuss means point-blank range.
You turn around, switch to blunder, pull trigger, I'm dead.
So what's my gain in this situation?
I successfully boarded an enemy vessel undetected and then give myself away and die.

THIS would be stupid :D

I'm really not upset, so I wish people would stop assigning emotions to me. I'll tell you when I'm upset. Believe me, you would know. Writing about an experience or topic does not make one "upset."

Now that we've gotten that out of the way...

My main complaint isn't that they did what they did, but that they did what they did with absolutely zero style, panache, or even a tiny bit of decency. They may have thought it was fun, but they missed a great opportunity to engage. That, I think, more than anything else, is the biggest problem with this game and the people who play it. People are oblivious to the fact that there are actual human beings dwelling inside those cartoonish avatars. Am I expecting too much? Yep, absolutely. But what a waste. It could have been a pretty interesting encounter for both parties. Instead, it was just cold-blooded murder, a woman shot in the back while...shopping. Is that really how people want to "win"? I aspire to greater things. It's a shame more people don't.

@lefaux2 said in Shot in the Back while Shopping:

@genuine-heather said in Shot in the Back while Shopping:

My main complaint isn't that they did what they did, but that they did what they did with absolutely zero style, panache, or even a tiny bit of decency. They may have thought it was fun, but they missed a great opportunity to engage.

Would you say it's possible that they tried turning in a legendary chest which they just spent a couple of hours getting and don't want to take risks?

Anything's possible, I have no idea. But even in your example, shooting me in the back was an example of cowardice. Even more so if they're legends. You'd think they couldn't be that bad at the game to worry about one person taking their chest? Right? They could have taken a small risk and maybe had an engaging encounter with another player. But they chose the cowardly route. Sure, that's their choice. I simply think it's a sad state of affairs.

@genuine-heather said in Shot in the Back while Shopping:

I'm really not upset, so I wish people would stop assigning emotions to me. I'll tell you when I'm upset. Believe me, you would know. Writing about an experience or topic does not make one "upset."

You dedicated a post to this. Just this... in a forum crowded with people complainging about features the game has to make it a pirate game and unique, yeah people here are going to say you're upset.

I'd have killed you too.

1. It's just funny. I enjoy seeing people struggle to close the menus and try to fight back when I slash at them with my sword.
2. Being in a galleon carrying a lot of loot and seeing a sloop parked I often scout out the island for its owner and kill him/ her while my crew secures the sloop so we can unload our booty. This game is all about booty you know, losing that to someone who just spawned is just annoying.

Edit: Also could you give us any feedback or suggestions in your post?

@hynieth said in Shot in the Back while Shopping:

@genuine-heather said in Shot in the Back while Shopping:

I'm really not upset, so I wish people would stop assigning emotions to me. I'll tell you when I'm upset. Believe me, you would know. Writing about an experience or topic does not make one "upset."

You dedicated a post to this. Just this... in a forum crowded with people complainging about features the game has to make it a pirate game and unique, yeah people here are going to say you're upset.

I'd have killed you too.

1. It's just funny. I enjoy seeing people struggle to close the menus and try to fight back when I slash at them with my sword.
2. Being in a galleon carrying a lot of loot and seeing a sloop parked I often scout out the island for its owner and kill him/ her while my crew secures the sloop so we can unload our booty. This game is all about booty you know, losing that to someone who just spawned is just annoying.

1. I suppose it might be funny to a nine year old, in a twisted, deranged way.
2. Still cowardly. This game isn't really "all about that booty" anyway (wasn't that a song?). It's about the adventure.

To address your final point, I concede I might have posted this in a different category. But if you are keen to split hairs, what I posted was feedback.

EDIT: I post about a lot of experiences and things relating to the game. What's wrong with a post for "just this?" This is a thing that happened. I thought it was interesting enough to comment on. You're welcome to disagree.

@lefaux2 said in Shot in the Back while Shopping:

@genuine-heather said in Shot in the Back while Shopping:

Anything's possible, I have no idea. But even in your example, shooting me in the back was an example of cowardice.

If we weren't cowards we'd be Lords.

Even more so if they're legends.

I think that that made them legends in the first place. Cashing their loot in instead of losing it by trying to make friends at point-blank range.

You'd think they couldn't be that bad at the game to worry about one person taking their chest? Right?

It has nothing to do with being a bad player.
You can grab any loot I have, i don't care... except my athena chest.
The voyages are long and hard to do. I don't want that effort to go to waste.

They could have taken a small risk and maybe had an engaging encounter with another player. But they chose the cowardly route.

... or could've lost 3 hours of relatively tough gameplay.
I think the main issue is perception.
You call it "cowardly".
I call it "safe".

You're a rather low level player so I assume you haven't done many legendary voyages yet.
That's completely fine.
If you would take such a risk while carrying an athena chest, I deeply respect you for trying to make the world (in this case, the game) a better place.
I only have a few hours to play per day so I want my athena voyages to matter.

In case you haven't turned in an athena chest yet, add me on XBOX and we'll do a trip together.
I'm honestly curious if you'd change your view then.

Well here's the thing. You're making a pretty lengthy argument all based on the remote possibility they were carrying an Athena chest. But in the time they took to hunt me down, find me inside a shop with my back turned...well they could've just sold the stinking chest. But let's forget that for a moment. What do you think the odds are they even had and Athena chest? It's far more likely they were simply being...let me find a polite way of saying it...male appendages.

Okay, if you really want me to concede that maybe, if they happened to be carrying an Athena chest, they might have had some justification for shooting a freshly spawned player who was shopping in a store in the back...then fine, I will give it to you.

It changes nothing. The motive would still be cowardice. They were afraid of losing their chest. But more likely, they had no such booty (at least not in terms of loot) and were simply being murderous louses. Either way, it's their choice. I think it's a wasted opportunity. You're welcome to disagree, but I don't really think you do. I think you're concocting a scenario to sort of justify the behavior, a set of "what if" circumstances in which it wouldn't be such a dirtbag move. Okay, in those limited circumstances, maybe you're right (I'm not saying you are, I'm just conceding the possibility). But really, I think you basically agree with me that under most circumstances, it's a wasted opportunity. I could be wrong.

But I really didn't make this thread to argue the point. It was just something that happened. Call it whatever you like. I'm perfectly able to find the humor in it. I find the personal, nitpicky comments after the fact less humorous.

@logansdadtoo yeah and it's a good thing they arent safe zones either. I'd hate to have someone run for the shop when I'm trying to kill them just so they go invulnurable.

O.o ....

Stating that theres something wrong with people, solely based on their actions against you in a video game... Hmm that's kinda wrong and only proves there is indeed emotions involved. They shot you in the back at an outpost when you were shopping, chill about it? You didn't have anything to lose anyways, you've said that yourself - you just spawned in, right? - I've done this alot of times myself, to make sure we can cash-in our booty, worth hours of grinding in relatively safety.

Deal with it, for real...

@genuine-heather
Rare rewards us for doing exactly this by having an in-game achievement for killing someone from behind with a blunderbuss. They are specifically encouraging people to do this.

@myrm said in Shot in the Back while Shopping:

PS: I have no problem with being killed by squeakers. If a 14-year-old boy, or even an 8-year-old boy kills me in this game, then he simply got the better of me. In fact I object less to being killed by a Squeaker than I do by an adult player. I'm like, Awww, a Squeaker beat me. Good work! xD

I never understood what people meant with squeelers untill just last night there was a spanish crew mic spamming in high pitched voices spouting obcenities. It was more funny then anything else and tho they were good in PVP combat they were uncoordinated and attacked us when we already offloaded our ship so we had a jolly laugh sinking them and taking them out slowly but surely.