Many hackers

  • in Sea of Thieves, been playing for one week now. Not bought it (test free xbox app 14. days, thank you for that Microsoft!! Test before purchase what a greate idea!), but I am allready a PL.
    Point of this post is, that ive encountered a few hackers on the way. They teleport invisible onto my ship, start attacking me, kill me, and take the loot offcourse, sometimes they also join a alliance with me, just to track me. I will NOT buy this game, just because of a few incidents with cheaters. If this was a totaly cheat free enviroment I would not hesitate buying the game now. But tobad these few are making me loose hours upon hours with looting, failed athena quests, just because i encounter some teleporting idiot.
    We live in 2019, should think that the age of game hacks are over now!
    Been like this in all games since 1994

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  • Yeah, I have to add that.
    No they did not shoot and board me.
    No they was not infront of me.
    No...

    They cheated, ive been around for a few days in the gaming world..

  • [mod edited] We have all been new. We all went through the same struggle. Some accept it and improve [mod edited]. Like pls boys lets just accept we failed and move on?! Yeah there is hacks in every game, it's literally impossible to prevent that. But it's not that often that you'll see one. I spend months without seeing one [mod edited]

  • Every game has hackers in them. It may be 2019 but that just means the hacks are getting more sophisticated and harder to catch. You can say they should be over but that is WAYYY easier said than done. Running into a few hackers shouldn't be the reason you don't buy a game. If it was you wouldn't be able to buy any games.

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  • Nothing personal, but I don't buy it. Been playing a week? There's a lot to learn in a week, and a lot of cheese that can be used on you in that time.

  • Games get better the hacks get better been this way from 1994.

    You want a onlune game without hacks. Good luck sir

  • @woolliestlemon7 hackers will always find a way to hack a game even after being caught, but, that doesn't mean they wont get caught doing it.

    Send in recordings of these people next time this happens to you to SoT home page on Twitter or something and they will track em down and ban them.

    I've been playing the game since day 1 and I haven't seen any hackers at all. Maybe I'm blind if I've been cheated or it was just coincidence, totally not sure but, dont let these hackers ruin your fun on the seas.

    Leave game and then try a different server, it might help, it might not, but give more time then just a week, I'm not sure you wont run into any more but if you do record what happened and send it in to the SoT teams.

    I hope's yo see ya on the seas matey and good luck plundering.

  • You reached PL in just 1 week? Forgive me if I don't believe you...

  • @marrl Uhhhh not really sure what did I say that had to be moded O.o

  • @galactic-geek
    I am no average gamer, as you might be..

    But you are forgiven..

  • @galactic-geek
    To be fair, becoming PL is stupidly easy now. A buddy refers them as "Rent-a-Legends."

  • @galactic-geek said in Many hackers:

    You reached PL in just 1 week? Forgive me if I don't believe you...

    Meh, I think it's not too hard to believe, Rare did make the grind way easier for new players, and that coupled to the x2 rep weekend and buying lvls option, it's pretty doable. Not an impressive feat anymore, but doable :P. The more the merrier I say so it's all good.

    Keep in mind that titles don't mean squat about game experience though... Seen many purple-clad fellows still not knowing which side of the sword to hit with, somehow.

  • @galactic-geek I feel you're confusion bro, it took me a whole more than 9 months to get PL, (Including a 3 month break from the game cuz I had stuff going on) but yea the grind has now been a lot easier since they've fixed the amount of xp and gold gained by voyages and skull forts and what not, which things are worth a good amount and how much they should be worth compared to how the game was previously when it took like a week to get to like 25/25/25 or around that. (Depending on your rate of grinding, how late you stay up at night, etc.)

    PL almost doesn't mean anything anymore that much and yet at the same time tho, not many have even made it that far.

    As far as cheaters go tho, those lazy beards dont have any exciting story's or tales to share about all the experiences they've encountered before becoming PL, all they have is "I got there, wasnt hard, blah blah blah."

    Me myself haven't encountered any cheaters yet but if I do encounter any I'll report em to both Rare and xbox live.

  • My dude as an alpha tester and game player for a very long time I can tell you hands down I have potentially encountered one “hacker” in all my time in game and that’s was very questionable the hacks in this game don’t involve teleporting or such only aimbot and certain ship based glitches I have however swam for 20 minutes to board and steal loot many times and I have snuck aboard plenty of ships without the owner knowing I think if u ever see this please post a video with actual evidence

  • @xix-zeno-xix said in Many hackers:

    As far as cheaters go tho, those lazy beards dont have any exciting story's or tales to share about all the experiences they've encountered before becoming PL, all they have is "I got there, wasnt hard, blah blah blah."

    I don't know if I'd go so far as calling people who get to PL fast cheaters, but I do agree that their stories would probably be very lackluster because they're doing the grind and not taking the time to really enjoy their experiences. Of course, I'm sure @WoolliestLemon7 would happily correct me there too, with his one week of experiences. Also for the record, CottonLime, I am far and above any average gamer - I'm what you might call... Devoted.

  • @galactic-geek oh lol I was just talking about ones that get there like instantly without spending more than like 1 day but I know what you mean. :)

  • @xix-zeno-xix i wish i had seen a cheater. been playing this game since last year and not encountered any.

    but i always see in the forums these 'been playing the game for a week' players that see heaps of them.

    its real weird.

  • @freaktmonline dont read into it too much, without prove of evidence noone will really know for sure, but that's why if we do catch it happening, record and review it so we can make sure that it wasnt just coincidence.

    Plus yes I haven't seen anythin either but, I would assume somebody's probably done it and probably the reason why there is so many "hackers" posts.

  • To those that think it was 30min here and there to get PL, you are very wrong.

    Someone here said that I was rushing trough and got no fun bla bla..
    Well that is your opinion on how to play a game. Normaly I have around 300hours a month in a game. thats two months of ordinary job in one month, just playing games.

    And from the official numbers that came in August 2018, they sold 5million copies of the game then, I assume the number is higher now. But no, 5million people does not play the game. Anyway as you see on your own xbox(app), you see that only 1,13% of all players achived this. And that of 5million is not more than 56500 players that have achived PL (if they reached 6million now, the numbers are not more than 67800people that have achived PL) And for me that sounds low...

    I know what i saw, I have encountered hackers in all games ive played except World of Warcraft, there for the 8 years i played it daily, not one hacker.

    1 week in Sea of Thieves ive met atleast two.
    They are reported, I do not need to prove it, it is up to the developer/mods to do their job and actually find proof, it's all in the database, but that actually takes alot of time. If i had to give proof, then they only need a e-mail address, not a menu for reporting players..

  • @woolliestlemon7

    I wanna see those cheaters, been around for more than a year, yet to meet one!
    Given that you had such luck in 2 weeks, you should buy lotto.

    But in all seriousness - there are many-many nifty and crafty players around that board you, hide on your boat for hours and then when you have something valuable... just make it disappear. They even sleep on your ship! those monsters!

    We live in 2019 now one should know how to know when defeated by a sneaky pirate.

  • @woolliestlemon7 may I ask what the objective of this post is? Are you attempting to validate your experience, or did you just want to complain? If you can provide a good, logical reason for this post to exist, then I will treat it as a good, logical post. Right now it seems to me like it's just complaining.

  • @woolliestlemon7 I think the more likely explanation is that you think you're better at this game than you actually are.

    Out of all the hours playing this game, I can only think of one instance where I suspected someone of cheating and even then it could of just been a high level of skill on their part.

  • @woolliestlemon7 Well your whole attitude around this is wrong and VERY entitled....
    Does this game have hackers ? probably! have hackers been punished before ? Absolutely!!!

    You not willing to send proof to the devs ? like video or the like doesnt strengthen your case. especially if you are so sure about it. Not saying you did or did not meet any hackers but look at it like this, apart from you (who potentially has a valid hacker case) alot of people put in hacker reports simply because they got beaten a couple of times by the same crew. I got accused sooo many times for using teleport and or damage hacks and i never used any of the like. Simply because im a moron that invests time in pvp and sneak skills. or simply have waay too much fun swimming from island to island just to get to that one ship.

    You are new to the game even though you spent alot of time in it, i have 1000's of hours in this and still learn new things and tricks. and a thing i do ALOT is swim for miles and miles to get to a ship in order to board it sneakily.

  • @vorondil1 then you should start with reading my first post. But people keep arguing against me, as if I am a complete noob in games... So therefor I feel like it had to be defended. Just stop asking questions about it. Just close the thread. All I wanted was to notify the community.
    Seems like most of you play so little or dont understand how hacks can work.

  • @woolliestlemon7 said in Many hackers:

    I know what i saw, I have encountered hackers in all games ive played except World of Warcraft, there for the 8 years i played it daily, not one hacker.

    Ok I was reading this thread and then saw this.... Haha, you play WoW and yet you don't know a thing about lag, latency and the like?

    As with WoW this game runs serverside for around 90%. All its calculations are done there so you can't hack things like damage position etc. People CAN'T teleport because people can't directly hack the server.
    What people can do however is just plain trick you, have low latency, use bugs and glitches (I've had ships sail over me just to scoop me up in the hull and put me there safe and sound without fighting)

    Also it depends on what you call cheating but all those people using bots in Wow to mine/ farm for gold and sell it, all those people dualboxing and all the exploits used to win PvE / PvP content is ludicrus in WoW. But don't trust me on that one, I've been only playing WoW since beta.

  • @woolliestlemon7 great. You just wanted to "notify the community," which is a fine reason in my book. Just checking.

    SoT is extremely different from other games. Experience elsewhere doesn't necessarily translate exactly. So if you have a week under your belt and come to one conclusion, and more than a dozen old salts with more than a year played come to a near-unanimous different conclusion, that should at least be cause for you to stop and reconsider. You may still be right, but it's weird to me that you're not even faintly concerned by the fact that no one believes they were hackers. To the extent that you try to call all of us noobs, on the basis that no one who knows anything about games could possibly ever disagree with you.

  • It's the tone of your first post that is the issue.. Casually saying you got to PL in a week during a free trial and you won't buy the game because you say two hackers, do you realise how that sounds to people? Most people haven't got to PL because it's still hard to achieve unless you are willing and have the time to play the game every single day and rush through the grind, they may have made it slightly easier but it's not easy.. Its certainly nothing to do with hackers. See an actual hacker? Report it and change servers, I really don't see where you are coming from, and neither does anyone else so it seems

  • It is nothing to become a Pirate Legend now as it is still nothing to do. Rare has watered and dumbed the game done to much to pacify players for having new content and drawn new players in. The constant skull forts, hih rewards from the Devils’s Roar, and months of guilded voyages and double XP handouts has devalued and cheapened the entire game.

    Finding a captain’s chest use to mean something. Turned in dozens of them them by digging nothing but them up this past week. Except for making up of stories not much matters anymore.

    There are cheaters in this game. There are websites that look like a storefront that sell hacks for this game and have ads for why cheating if good for this game. We have encountered them early in the game and over the course of the last year. Not going to go into anymore details. Cheaters exist and thinking they do not exist, especially in this game is very naive.

    Sorry others tried to discredit you because you have not sailed as long as they have. I can tell you cheating goes on in this game because of experience. Too many people in the forums who are big fan boys and girls are very condescending. Many think the rule the forums and even seem to enjoy belittling and shaming others not like them.

  • @woolliestlemon7

    To those that think it was 30min here and there to get PL, you are very wrong.

    Someone here said that I was rushing trough and got no fun bla bla..

    Well that is your opinion on how to play a game. Normaly I have around 300hours a month in a game. thats two months of ordinary job in one month, just playing games.

    Yeah, sure but you also had signifcantly an easier time compared to the rest of us at launch. Allow me to make a list of the advantages you had compared to the rest of us.

    1. Double Experience Weekend
    2. Alliance System (+50% Loot with zero effort)
    3. Alliance servers
    4. Constantly spawning Forts mostly uncontested
    5. Bone Dust Item
    6. Devil's Roar (Double Exp/Gold)
    7. Increased value of Merchant items
    8. Fixed Loot spawn rates - This needs a bit of explanation, back in the day you could be doing a lvl 50 Gold hoarders, rather then dig maurauder/ Captains chest, as you do now, it was the same spawn rate for all chests. So essentially we would get seafarers and castaways at the same rate of the other two.
    9. Increased random loot on beaches
    10. Forts not locked behind Skeleton ship cloud.

    By all means pat yourself on the back, but it is blantantly a lie to say that you hadn't had it easier compared to everyone else.

    And from the official numbers that came in August 2018, they sold 5million copies of the game then, I assume the number is higher now. But no, 5million people does not play the game. Anyway as you see on your own xbox(app), you see that only 1,13% of all players achived this. And that of 5million is not more than 56500 players that have achived PL (if they reached 6million now, the numbers are not more than 67800people that have achived PL) And for me that sounds low...

    Meanwhile people from the game pass try the game and don't stick with it, artificially inflating those numbers. Look at it this way, only 67.5% have the Set Sail achievement. That implies 32.5% of people tried the game but didn't even leave the dock. While the PL percent number is low, it isn't really that low.

  • Well, that is your opinion. You are free to mean and think what ever you like.

    I was raised to be honest, and that is what I am.

    If i would lay down flat, accept the hackers and buy the game. Then I would not be honest.

    If all games had this option to test it, before purchase, I am sure cheating in games would be come a foreign word. Cause many many people would not buy the games then, then developers actually had to care and not be lazy and almost demand evidence. Not all gamers stream or have the urge to record, once the hacker have done his job, it is to late anyways to fire up obs...

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  • @x-crowheart-x really? You're the first long-term sailor I've heard to encounter numerous hackers, that's interesting. Have you noticed the number going up or down? I know there was a veritable flood near release, but I had been led to believe, both by my experience and others' testimonials, that they were practically gone at this point.

    Not challenging your statement, honestly querying :)

  • @nabberwar

    Rare’s stats on so convoluted. Millions sold is a super fuzzy stat. All the numbers are jumbled up and highly overinflated to be factually significant. The Pirate Legend stat is an odd one. We run into Pirate Legends all the time. That 1% must be playing way more than others.

  • @woolliestlemon7
    No one has argued this game has zero cheaters, they are just rare. I've had this game since launch and have yet to run into one. Most of the "Suspicious activity" can be explained through lag and poor hitbox registration, of which this game has a lot of. As well as a distinct lack of understanding when it comes to game mechanics. Did you know bullets can travel through the floor boards? That's just one example of something no one really knows is a feature. As you said yourself, you've only played for a week, that's an extremely short time to learn the ins and outs of this game.

  • if you are saying that you have become a PL within a week of playing then I think the only hacker here is you xD

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