Sorry , but yet another post about the mentality of most of the pvprs out there. 90% of my encounters have ended in violence even though I always go the friendly route. How the hell can i be two places at once, I.e in a cave doing souls quests and outside up the crows nest with spyglass. By the time I've heard cannon fire and got out of the cave everything is screwed. I've messaged these people to get an insight into their game mentality and most can't answer or say "cry baby". I love this game but have had enough for now. we really do need change.
Sea of morons
@reluctantdragon said in Sea of morons:
Sorry , but yet another post about the mentality of most of the pvprs out there. 90% of my encounters have ended in violence even though I always go the friendly route. How the hell can i be two places at once, I.e in a cave doing souls quests and outside up the crows nest with spyglass. By the time I've heard cannon fire and got out of the cave everything is screwed. I've messaged these people to get an insight into their game mentality and most can't answer or say "cry baby". I love this game but have had enough for now. we really do need change.
when you play with other people, you can split tasks, impossible as it sounds.
@nwo-azcrack how is it not for solo players? when there is a solo sloop with a one man crew option? Confusion ensues.
Because it specifically warns you that sailing solo will be the most difficult and challenging way to approach the game. I sail in a solo sloop plenty when my crew isn't on. You just have to always pay attention. double check your ship even if it takes longer to complete your objective on the island. if it keeps you safe. it's worth.
@nwo-azcrack I wish I could downvote comments like this. We are all aware it's meant for a crew and that's a valid point. However, that's not the point of this thread. The writer is not asking for solutions, the writer is just pointing out behaviours that they find strange or unacceptable.
On a side note, the title of this thread needs changing. It's a little inappropriate and serves only as clickbait. You could express your opinion without using words like 'morons'. It's too inflammatory for my taste and rather than creating a base for constructive discussion it instead promotes more inflammatory responses.
@reluctantdragon Until they put the number of chests aboard your ship on a giant nametag above your ship visible from 300 freedom units away, your empty ship isn't much different from the reddit poster doing his 274 chest challenge.
Before you jump off your boat, look around you. When you're doing a quest in a cave, make sure to go outside and look around you. Or, hide your most valuable treasure on the island when you get off.
Solo is not impossible, it's not unfair. It's just you playing a game by yourself where there is a high chance you'll be playing against larger crews who can divide up the tasks. It's essentially Sea of Thieves: Hard Mode.
Why people sink other ships? Because they can, and because they want to. There is no way of knowing if you have anything, so sinking is an easy way to find out.
@cptnpotbeard I would just like to know why these people would do what they do. An insight into their mentality if you like.
@evasive-envy said in Sea of morons:
@nwo-azcrack I wish I could downvote comments like this. We are all aware it's meant for a crew and that's a valid point. However, that's not the point of this thread. The writer is not asking for solutions, the writer is just pointing out behaviours that they find strange or unacceptable.
It isn't unacceptable though, the game itself tells you that solo play is for highly experienced pirates, OoS is hard by yourself, you die constantly, skeletons spawn in caves and nooks and on hilltops and in the forests, and pirates are out there doing pirate things, and one of those pirate things is sinking other ships, if you played the game with a crew you could have lookouts and strategies, and these tasks could be done, alone there is no guarantee.
@reluctantdragon Oh I totally understand your point. When solo slooping you have to expect that sort of thing but it's deflating when it happens to you. I don't necessarily agree with your opinion but I understand your frustration.
@reluctantdragon said in Sea of morons:
@cptnpotbeard I would just like to know why these people would do what they do. An insight into their mentality if you like.
Sinking ships in a pirate game is fun.
@reluctantdragon Well as someone who both goes on the hunt for ships as a solo slooper and while with my full galleon crew. I personally do it for the thrill and the fun of the chase, securing the prize and raiding the supplies. I usually don't care about the loot because most times when I raid a ship they don't have loot other than supplies like cannonballs and bananas and such. I usually try to announce to other pirates when I commandeer their ship my intent however that I just want supplies and I will be on my way. I try to announce that before combat, but if combat has engaged and I defeat the enemy player I usually just tell them that when they respawn and try to avoid camping them if possible. But if they try to fight me when I clearly defeated them then I will spawn camp them until I have looted the supplies I wanted. But the main reason my crew and I go after ships is to break up the monotony of grinding voyages. I usually don't even sink the ship if I don't have to although a ship with no supplies may as well be sunk.
@sir-rhavi Very good point. You can't exactly know what's on peoples ships until, well, you sink them.
@sir-rhavi true ...but why not come take a closer look. It's a minute or two max to go check even the farthest ships out. Find out if they're friend or foe first. Fair enough if you're going to have 20 chests out in the open, I could understand that naivety. But communication is the key here.
@reluctantdragon Its a PvP based game so deal with it or atleast find a crew to save the hassle of getting "rekt" is the right term i believe :)
@erinom3 said in Sea of morons:
Before you jump off your boat, look around you. When you're doing a quest in a cave, make sure to go outside and look around you. Or, hide your most valuable treasure on the island when you get off.
Solo is not impossible, it's not unfair. It's just you playing a game by yourself where there is a high chance you'll be playing against larger crews who can divide up the tasks. It's essentially Sea of Thieves: Hard Mode.
Why people sink other ships? Because they can, and because they want to. There is no way of knowing if you have anything, so sinking is an easy way to find out.
I always do all you say, and never sail rammed to the rafters with loot. If you're in a cave with three pirate captains you're going to have to run like usain bolt to save your ship. And against four cannons.... no chance.
@reluctantdragon said in Sea of morons:
@sir-rhavi true ...but why not come take a closer look. It's a minute or two max to go check even the farthest ships out. Find out if they're friend or foe first. Fair enough if you're going to have 20 chests out in the open, I could understand that naivety. But communication is the key here.
Why would I risk it? a 2 man sloop could just as easy have somebody spot me from far and be swimming with a keg if I come in slow and peaceful, what do you want me to do? Ask you if you have loot before I unload my cannons on you? Sounds a bit naive.
What I'm saying is, you are playing this game wrong, all of you who come to the forums complaining how hard it is as a solo player: this game is not meant for solo play; the game was designed around the galleon and 4 man crews, sloops themselves were only added because of player feedback.
Try to find a crew, either matchmake or find one in the community discord or xbox app group or whatever, see what the game is REALLY like.@reluctantdragon
So, what's the problem then? Your boat gets sunk with little to no loot. All you have to do is sail back to where you were, pick up your stuff, and live happily ever after.It's not the end of the world getting sunk. Because everyone sinks on occasion. Just accept your losses, and move on. Spending time trying to figure out why people do certain things in video games is a, in my eyes, giant waste of time because the answer is usually "because they can".
There are always plenty people online who want to galleon if you dont want to sloop. But if you do sloop, be prepared for everything to not go the way you want.
@ii-d3vast4te-ii said in Sea of morons:
@reluctantdragon Its a PvP based game so deal with it or atleast find a crew to save the hassle of getting "rekt" is the right term i believe :)
You're right ..its also a pve game and a solo game. I just wanted an insight into the way some players play.
@reluctantdragon said in Sea of morons:
@ii-d3vast4te-ii said in Sea of morons:
@reluctantdragon Its a PvP based game so deal with it or atleast find a crew to save the hassle of getting "rekt" is the right term i believe :)
You're right ..its also a pve game and a solo game. I just wanted an insight into the way some players play.
Actually solo play is just there the game even says Solo play is hard so i guess find another man for your sloop
I play this game for PVP, the collection part of it is a side quest and not part of my main story.
At 33, having played online games for the best part of 18 years, I have never cared about cosmetics or the appearance of my online character, if I get hooked on a game it is because it has something that appeals to my style of gaming.
For SoT this is PVP and the ability to chase and sink ships. If there was no PVP i would not play, Im sorry but whoopdeedoo if the content was along the lines of ''have spent 3 hours on a game a killed a few NPC skeletons and dug up some chests to hand in for gold which I will use to make an online character look good or buy some sails that some people may or may not look at'. If that's your style of gaming, fine, but it is not for everyone and you need to understand that.@reluctantdragon You knew what you signed up for when you decided to solo. Don't get at mad at Dark Souls for being Dark Souls. Find a crew, or become a skilled solo player. Playing solo is the harder difficulty for this game.
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I play solo a lot but I always accept that I could lose everything. You have to play super smart and trust no one@reluctantdragon said:
You're right ..its also a pve game and a solo game. I just wanted an insight into the way some players play.
It's not a solo game unless you're ready for a perilous adventure.
@sir-rhavi Oh I totally agree with you in every way. I do not agree with the opinion written by the writer of the thread. I'm just pointing out that comments like 'find a crew' is sound advice but it doesn't necessarily elaborate on or refute the posters opinion.
We need to explain to the writer that people are not necessarily 'morons' because nobody knows whether you have loot on board or sinking an empty ship is a valid tactic if they are on the island you need to be on etc etc.
@erinom3 said in Sea of morons:
Before you jump off your boat, look around you. When you're doing a quest in a cave, make sure to go outside and look around you. Or, hide your most valuable treasure on the island when you get off.
Solo is not impossible, it's not unfair. It's just you playing a game by yourself where there is a high chance you'll be playing against larger crews who can divide up the tasks. It's essentially Sea of Thieves: Hard Mode.
Why people sink other ships? Because they can, and because they want to. There is no way of knowing if you have anything, so sinking is an easy way to find out.
Exactly this, solo play is hard mode. A single manned sloop is easy prey for every other ship on the sea. People are opportunists, and if they see an un-manned ship at an island, there's a good chance it has loot on board.
When I solo, and I do so for at least some time most days, I've learned a few tricks which have helped me have a better experience.
- Get to know how long it will take a ship in the distance to get to you.
- Presume that any other ship you see is coming to get you.
- Circle every Island to see if there are ships/mermaids/sails on the horizon.
- Make sure that you spend no more than half the time it will take for the nearest ship to close the distance on the island (this can mean unlocking a riddle and then running for your life, to return later).
- Do not get attached to your loot, expect to lose it to opportunistic thieves.
It can be a really demoralising experience solo slooping, but when you manage to solo a high level voyage and make off with tonnes of loot it is immensely rewarding.
I don't understand why it makes them morons. They are not doing anything wrong or weird.
Some players want to attack others for their loot, while others do their best to avoid them.As a solo player, I have no problem watching for other ships while doing my voyages.
My ship has only been attacked once and it was my fault for not checking the other side of the island.I play solo, and I sink other sloops all the time if they're in my way. If I'm heading to any outpost or island they're parked at, I'd rather get rid of them and have them be 3 or so islands away so I can do what I want on that island in peace. I don't trust anyone I see on the seas as a solo player, and would rather safely conduct my business than wait for the other sloop to possibly attack me first. If they spot me in time and run away (not turn around to engage me), I let them go, but always keep an eye on their movement. That's why I sink other sloops, for my own safety.
On the subject of this game not intended for solo players, I'm inclined to believe this a bit more after the last 2 videos Rare has put out today XD. They're really trying to encourage people to find other players to crew up with and keep emphasizing how difficult solo play is. I know what I'm doing as a solo player and rarely ever get attacked compared to the first 2 weeks of release. But I feel Rare would rather you play with others than come on here and complain about having a hard time playing solo.
Expecting to Find a decent crew of randoms using the current matchmaking mechanic can only be likened to dipping your hand deep into a mound of feces and expecting to strike gold; a rare and curious occurence.
Playing solo gets easy, when you master a watertight yet tedious docking / lookout / PVE routine you'll begin to miss the days you hid chests in bushes and behind rocks and scanned the horizon a billion times a minute for other ships. Enjoy the frustration while it lasts because it's fleeting.
@kirkatron85 said in Sea of morons:
I play this game for PVP, the collection part of it is a side quest and not part of my main story.
At 33, having played online games for the best part of 18 years, I have never cared about cosmetics or the appearance of my online character, if I get hooked on a game it is because it has something that appeals to my style of gaming.
For SoT this is PVP and the ability to chase and sink ships. If there was no PVP i would not play, Im sorry but whoopdeedoo if the content was along the lines of ''have spent 3 hours on a game a killed a few NPC skeletons and dug up some chests to hand in for gold which I will use to make an online character look good or buy some sails that some people may or may not look at'. If that's your style of gaming, fine, but it is not for everyone and you need to understand that.I don't disagree with your opinion, but it would make the game more enjoyable for a lot more people (including pvprs) if the communication was there a bit more. What's the point in shooting fish in a barrel? Want to fight? Have treasures? Taking the risk with a shipfull? Fair enough you're a target. But killing for killings sake.... just don't get it.
In my opinion they're not really pvping. When my crew and I come upon an empty ship we never open fire, we board her and loot EVERYTHING. If the crew returns, there's the pvp. More often than not they scuttle the ship rather than fight but that's okay. Chances are good we were going to sink it ourselves to make sure nothing was hidden anywhere.
Shooting empty ships is silly and cowardly. Be more pirate.
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