Microtransactions may be down the road. But here's why microtrans will ruin Rare.

This is about the only game I actually support the decision of microtransactions for since the plan is only to have "cosmetic" enhancements in the transaction area. That means there is no pay-to-win or unbalancing aspect.

The moment they add unique weapons with special effects to the store or new ships that are stronger -- then it's a dark path.

Who cares if someone buys a special hat. It doesn't impact gameplay ...

Its a pretty messy situation all round, but sadly, very sadly, being a sell out is more profitable than putting the player experience first.

Wizards card games are a good example of this. Magic, Pokemon, Yu Gi Oh... The initial idea is pure and honest, and then come addition after addition of paid content that just leads to the game being a flash your cash top trumps.

Its ruined cards games, videogames (mmo especially) and tabletop gaming for me. It's all pay to win now because that makes more money.

If Rare had a quality product like they shoudl have done, they'd have phenomenal full price sales and a massive amount of community support. Instead we have a half baked product that is definately going to need MTs to stay fundable. The one mistake I really hope they don't make here is making the purchasable cosmetics more impressive than the unlockable ones in game. That would undermine the whole point of the games rather fickle progression appeal really.

@hobosloth28 I think you're forgetting that games are a PRODUCT. In order for this game to fill its own shoes, it needs more content. In order to keep up with the demand for this content, and future content, it needs cash inflow.

You do realize that the cost of these AAA games has stayed basically the same for like 20 years?
While the cost of almost everything else including the cost to make these games has increased about 150% to 300% on some areas of expense.

So basically in order to make a game and support for a few years they pretty much have to get more than 60 bucks. They will go bankrupt otherwise. So we have a couple of options:

Games could have their base prices increased to reflect actual inflation rates. (somewhere in the 90-120 range is probably what that is).

They can sell the addition content in lumps as episodic DLC, which will divide the community, and marginalize players who dont want to pay for more content.

Or they can somehow put in micro-transactions to generate that revenue and remain solvent.

Micro-transactions is a touchy subject with me too, as I have seen it done really poorly. I mean bungie-activision have a team of psychologists trying to teach them how to capitalize on addictive behaviors for theirs in Destiny. But if its just cosmetics, then I dont really care if this game has them. Now if they have the Micro-transaction they dont get to charge for DLC as well (this is actually why I left Destiny). And if they make the Micro-transactions required to be competitive thats also a dealbreaker for me.

But just having them doesnt ruin the game for me. Ill take a wait and see approach with it. If they are scummy with it ill dip. If its just a few birds and some fancy pants for people who want to spend their money on it then IDGAF.

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the point is RARE is owned my MS and will do whatever MS tells them to, MS is just as bad as those other companies, rare havent been an independant company in a long long time now

MS have been using MT's in its games for a long time now

I believe the issue is the opposite. Result is still the same though so that doesn't change.

If all they wanted was money and that would be all they need to succeed, they would be able to make the best game they could ever make right off the bat. However, there is this convenience variable to consider as well. That and other limitations eat the dream. Plus, they are financed already by Microsoft so there's that too.

Still, the result doesn't change. I wish it was all about the money.

@hobosloth28 said in Microtransactions may be down the road. But here's why microtrans will ruin Rare.:

I understand that it will be necessary for rare to make money. I understand that they continuously rolling out content will need some form of payment. But if Rare adds microtransactions, Sea of Thieves stops being special. Rare stops being the company to challenge the gaming industry to be better.

I really think this game could stand for something more in the gaming industry. Rare needs to take a stand against the status quo and prove to the big gaming companies you don't need to shove extra unnecessary costs into your game just because people will buy them and it's a good business strategy.

Many great gaming companies have come and gone because of the Industry giants like EA and Activision. Bungie is one of the saddest examples. A company who's name was once synonymous with innovation is now synonymous with sellout. Activision's business first mentality ruined Bungie and I want Rare to show everyone that money isn't everything.

I want to see rare show the gaming industry they aren't like everyone else and they do want to change the industry for the betterment of the gamer. I want Rare to prove everyone wrong.

I don't understand peoples issue with microtransactions, I'm for them. Give me them microtransactions, I don't mind spending a bit extra cash on to help fund the game when I can afford it and to add to my enjoyment. I spent 500dollars on Black Desert Online on Microtransactions and I would do it again.

@roosterhome said in Microtransactions may be down the road. But here's why microtrans will ruin Rare.:

@hobosloth28 said in Microtransactions may be down the road. But here's why microtrans will ruin Rare.:

I understand that it will be necessary for rare to make money. I understand that they continuously rolling out content will need some form of payment. But if Rare adds microtransactions, Sea of Thieves stops being special. Rare stops being the company to challenge the gaming industry to be better.

I really think this game could stand for something more in the gaming industry. Rare needs to take a stand against the status quo and prove to the big gaming companies you don't need to shove extra unnecessary costs into your game just because people will buy them and it's a good business strategy.

Many great gaming companies have come and gone because of the Industry giants like EA and Activision. Bungie is one of the saddest examples. A company who's name was once synonymous with innovation is now synonymous with sellout. Activision's business first mentality ruined Bungie and I want Rare to show everyone that money isn't everything.

I want to see rare show the gaming industry they aren't like everyone else and they do want to change the industry for the betterment of the gamer. I want Rare to prove everyone wrong.

I don't understand peoples issue with microtransactions, I'm for them. Give me them microtransactions, I don't mind spending a bit extra cash on to help fund the game when I can afford it and to add to my enjoyment. I spent 500dollars on Black Desert Online on Microtransactions and I would do it again.

You are not helping the company, but the investor who financed the company already. It's not the company you pay for, or at least not just them. The pot is most likely divided.

MTs are okay. As long as they don't compete with basic content and promote them instead.

@mythicalfable Still it helps fund the games future development and stability. I just don't get the big deal over it, its not like you have to do it you dont have to pay extra if you dont want to would you guys rather being paying for DLCS? I don't care either way but its one or the other to keep the game moving forward.

@realbadhor5e said in Microtransactions may be down the road. But here's why microtrans will ruin Rare.:

Nah, they need money to keep adding content to stuff without making people pay for dlcs and splitting the player base.

Simple, keep adding content that would attract players. World of Warcraft did this for years, before micro trans period. Expand the stuff to do, add more features, millions bought and maintained monthly subs for warcraft, hell id be willing to pay 9.99 up to 14.99 a month if they dish out the content. In theory though, if they'd just add consistent content thats replayable, they'd attract more customers. DLC is a good point to being with. Again I dont mind buying expansions for mmo's so why would i care to pay a bit for some dlc?