Quest Maps and Emissary Value

  • I really enjoy the new Quest Maps feature. However, I am a bit concerned that players who have maximized reputation for one or more trading companies may have fewer incentives to participate in creating maps. If what you receive is reputation and renown, then max-rep players only receive renown and if those players have completed the season, then there are no extrinsic incentives to participate.

    I suggest a mechanic involving emissary value. If you are the relevant emissary at the time of submitting the map to the quest board, when someone else digs it up and turns the treasure in (to the correct trading company) then you should get some amount of emissary value. Could be a flat rate since any bonus amount could really impact emissary value sums across the game.

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  • @shurrikane1 I have a funny feeling there's a "prestige system" of some sort coming. At least that was the first thing I thought about when they introduced the Buried Treasures features and talked about the mechanics. As it stands, beyond just the commendations for this season, no max player has any use for this new feature. And it's a really cool feature, so I hope they have a plan to give it long-term life for the entire player base.

  • I still think this should all be tied to the Bilge Rats, the Black Market should make a comeback, and people who bury Loot should get a Doubloon payout that they can use in said Black Market.

    Also, make the Quest Board contested - anyone on the Server can potentially have the Map until such time as the Server Shutdown happens or someone goes and digs up the Loot (at which point X Marks and/or the Map itself disappear for everyone as things happen). Instead of Stealing Maps, you could Copy Maps from other Crews (or nab them from the Quest Board directly).

  • @sweetsandman it wouldn't be the first time they've introduced a feature that isn't useful to max rep players. Buried treasures is basically just checking off a long requested feature even if it ultimately turns out to be pointless for end game players.

  • @d3adst1ck said in Quest Maps and Emissary Value:

    @sweetsandman it wouldn't be the first time they've introduced a feature that isn't useful to max rep players. Buried treasures is basically just checking off a long requested feature even if it ultimately turns out to be pointless for end game players.

    Technically it's not pointless; end-game players can bury loot they would normally sell to get extra progress in the season pass. It gives them a reason to keep finding loot, so they can bury it, thus passing it off to the next Pirate to find it, who might have greater need for the treasure.

  • @sweetsandman said in Quest Maps and Emissary Value:

    no max player has any use for this new feature.

    It is designed for fun. More of these "max players" should try it sometime.

  • As a max player:

    Bury items that aren't part of your current emissary. Come back for them when you have the correct emissary.

  • @personalc0ffee I wouldn't put as many hours into the game as I do if I didn't think it was fun. Unfortunately, this is just another means to max out even faster. While I don't see maxing out as an "end game", some players might. That's my concern.

    @PithyRumble Do you get emissary value when you dig up your own loot? If so, that seems broken. If not, why wouldn't I just keep it on my ship and save myself the effort?

  • @sweetsandman

    I solo. Less loot to lose.

  • @sweetsandman said in Quest Maps and Emissary Value:

    […] @PithyRumble Do you get emissary value when you dig up your own loot? If so, that seems broken. If not, why wouldn't I just keep it on my ship and save myself the effort?

    You get Emissary Rep when you put the appropriate items on your ship the first time.

    So when you're doing Gold Hoarders and kill some random captain and want to raise Order of Souls later on, you can bury it and come back for it later. Might even get the rep for picking it up (haven't checked) if you just bury it where it fell.

    It will give some Emissary rep when you bring it on your ship when an hour later you put up the Order of Souls Emissary.

  • @pithyrumble Same. Solo life! Cheers!

    @Lem0n-Curry I do see what you're saying...kill a roaming captain or an ocean crawler or whatever and just bury the loot before touching it...the mechanic should work then to raise your emissary since you've not touched it... though, I do need to science this as it pertains to loot that you've touched.

  • @sweetsandman said in Quest Maps and Emissary Value:

    @personalc0ffee I wouldn't put as many hours into the game as I do if I didn't think it was fun. Unfortunately, this is just another means to max out even faster. While I don't see maxing out as an "end game", some players might. That's my concern.

    @PithyRumble Do you get emissary value when you dig up your own loot? If so, that seems broken. If not, why wouldn't I just keep it on my ship and save myself the effort?

    Game is designed for fun sandbox romp with tools given.

    Maxing out is just another tool to tell a story.

  • Q: Do you even need the maps from the quest board? Could I see 1 on the board, that's a small island, and then just go looking for disturbed earth, or does that not work because it's not yet activated?

    Just wondering. 😅

  • @galactic-geek Gonna go test this. I'll get back to you.

    Seems like you can't. I've searched the Isle of Last Words pretty thoroughly and I'm not seeing or hearing any disturbed earth.

  • @pithyrumble that's actually the first smart use I've heard for it.

  • @galactic-geek tried this earlier you can dig up unactivated quests from what I can tell

  • @xzodeak said in Quest Maps and Emissary Value:

    @galactic-geek tried this earlier you can dig up unactivated quests from what I can tell

    Unactivated quests or activated quests that aren't yours though? 🤔

  • @galactic-geek that aren't mine. Found a bunch of digs randomly on rapier cay and once I got to the outpost I found that there was a map at the same island (same player name) I brought it and it only had one dig (I assume one I missed)

  • @blam320 they'd probably get the same or better renown if they just turn it in themselves rather than hope that maybe someone grabs their map.

  • @galactic-geek said in Quest Maps and Emissary Value:

    Q: Do you even need the maps from the quest board? Could I see 1 on the board, that's a small island, and then just go looking for disturbed earth, or does that not work because it's not yet activated?

    Just wondering. 😅

    I do not think you can get board quests treasures without activating the map. I never seen any you can however, find things other players bury that are still around in your server.

    I think more research should be done here but I rather doubt, they'd allow board quests to still keep track of loot not assigned to a crew. That would get rather performance intensive, I feel.

    Especially when someone does something like this.

    I think players would have noticed it.

  • @personalc0ffee And all that work probably for naught, as it will likely get reset or something. In fact, with tomorrow's maintenance, I know it will.

    Why put so much work into something that's only temporary?

  • @galactic-geek said in Quest Maps and Emissary Value:

    @personalc0ffee And all that work probably for naught, as it will likely get reset or something. In fact, with tomorrow's maintenance, I know it will.

    Why put so much work into something that's only temporary?

    Without the maintenance, that server would have been gone tomorrow probably as well.

    As to why ? Because he thought it would be fun, I guess ? People know his (quite appropriate for this kind of thing) name now as well.

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