Alliances

@captain-coel said in Alliances:

@xxcoldfangxx they don't want it to be easy. But you can have everyone that wants to play that is also in the same time zone hit srt sail at the same time.

Then you can check if you are on the same server.

I fail to see why they wouldn't want to make playing with friends an easier process. Especially since so many people have friends they want to play with.
Not everyone you play with is going to be in the same time zone either.

@captain-coel said in Alliances:

@xxcoldfangxx they made it very easy for up to 4 people. that was the design choice for Sea of Thieves. Making it easier to have multiple boats on same server when there is a max of 5 boats would allow a larger group to easily steam roll others.

Friends that are looking to enjoy playing the game aren't looking to steam roll other players.
Literally managed to set up a three sloop party the other night and all we wanted to do was run emissaries and do fortresses, skelly ships, and other events.
It's also my experience that most people who run in alliances don't want to mess with the pvp part of the game, so no I don't believe steam rolling other players in an alliance is as big of an issue as you might think.
While I can agree that there are people that would take advantage of such situation, it's really just the devs fault for the way they've made their game.
Sot is a game, playing with friends and setting up alliances is inevitable, and yes, people already take advantage of it, so no, there really shouldn't be any extra harm in making it a little easier.

@targasbr said in Alliances:

I don't understand why people insist on Alliance Servers when Rare has already said several times that it is against the practice.
The game is PvPvE, people should play it as it was meant to be played.

If alliances were against the game theme why is it even possible to form an alliance in the first place?
This isn't asking for a pve only server. Pvp is very much still permitted for those who want to take the risk of having an entire alliance turn against them.
It's the same thing that's going on now just implemented in an easier way for a larger group of friends who want to play the game together.
There is literally no problem with wanting to play a game, even a pirate themed game, with friends.

@targasbr said in Alliances:

@xxcoldfangxx said in Alliances:

@targasbr said in Alliances:

I don't understand why people insist on Alliance Servers when Rare has already said several times that it is against the practice.
The game is PvPvE, people should play it as it was meant to be played.

If alliances were against the game theme why is it even possible to form an alliance in the first place?

Alliances are different from ALLIANCE SERVERS. Did you make an alliance with every ship you encountered in one session? OK. Do you organize a discord server and make PvE only servers without any risk? You are wrong.

This isn't asking for a pve only server. Pvp is very much still permitted for those who want to take the risk of having an entire alliance turn against them.

I dare you to join one of these Alliance Servers, attack the alliance and not get banned. Attacking other ships on these servers is strictly prohibited.

It's the same thing that's going on now just implemented in an easier way for a larger group of friends who want to play the game together.
There is literally no problem with wanting to play a game, even a pirate themed game, with friends.

You don't need to be on the same server, I usually play with about 10 people on a discord call, each on their own server.
You can play with friends, three friends, on a galleon.

Getting banned on an alliance discord server is because they don't want pvp. Which goes to further prove my point on how people who are playing in an alliance aren't wanting to steam roll other player ships.
I am not suggesting the same thing obviously.
I am suggesting a way to join an alliance server from the game lobby where the ships are automatically placed into an alliance, where you can invite other players to it who are capable of creating their own ships. If the server isn't full then it's has a chance of being filled in by a random joiner.
Pvp enabled just like any other game setting, no risk of getting banned if you decided to mutany, just risk of getting the other alliance ships to turn against you as would be the normal risk should you join an alliance OUTSIDE the discord alliance servers.
If you can't understand that then save yourself the trouble.
No you don't need to be in the same server, but it makes things more fun if you are.
Would I go attack an alliance ship? Not likely cause I'm not stupid or blood thirsty.
Would I go an make an alliance with a random ship I find in game? Not likely as everyone in this game is afraid of any sort of ship coming up on them.
Faults of the game for the devs sticking to their philosophy on how a game should be played and how people should be meant to enjoy it.

@targasbr said in Alliances:

@xxcoldfangxx said in Alliances:

@targasbr said in Alliances:

@xxcoldfangxx said in Alliances:

@targasbr said in Alliances:

I don't understand why people insist on Alliance Servers when Rare has already said several times that it is against the practice.
The game is PvPvE, people should play it as it was meant to be played.

If alliances were against the game theme why is it even possible to form an alliance in the first place?

Alliances are different from ALLIANCE SERVERS. Did you make an alliance with every ship you encountered in one session? OK. Do you organize a discord server and make PvE only servers without any risk? You are wrong.

This isn't asking for a pve only server. Pvp is very much still permitted for those who want to take the risk of having an entire alliance turn against them.

I dare you to join one of these Alliance Servers, attack the alliance and not get banned. Attacking other ships on these servers is strictly prohibited.

It's the same thing that's going on now just implemented in an easier way for a larger group of friends who want to play the game together.
There is literally no problem with wanting to play a game, even a pirate themed game, with friends.

You don't need to be on the same server, I usually play with about 10 people on a discord call, each on their own server.
You can play with friends, three friends, on a galleon.

Getting banned on an alliance discord server is because they don't want pvp. Which goes to further prove my point on how people who are playing in an alliance aren't wanting to steam roll other player ships.
I am not suggesting the same thing obviously.
I am suggesting a way to join an alliance server from the game lobby where the ships are automatically placed into an alliance, where you can invite other players to it who are capable of creating their own ships. If the server isn't full then it's has a chance of being filled in by a random joiner.
Pvp enabled just like any other game setting, no risk of getting banned if you decided to mutany, just risk of getting the other alliance ships to turn against you as would be the normal risk should you join an alliance OUTSIDE the discord alliance servers.
If you can't understand that then save yourself the trouble.
No you don't need to be in the same server, but it makes things more fun if you are.
Would I go attack an alliance ship? Not likely cause I'm not stupid or blood thirsty.
Would I go an make an alliance with a random ship I find in game? Not likely as everyone in this game is afraid of any sort of ship coming up on them.
Faults of the game for the devs sticking to their philosophy on how a game should be played and how people should be meant to enjoy it.

The basic idea of ​​the game is to see a ship on the horizon and not know if it is a friend or enemy, so the idea of ​​entering the game with other ships, especially in an alliance, will never happen. Especially now that people are abusing it to cheese the PvP mode.
Also, it's not because development failed to develop something that we should abuse it. The least that is expected of a player is common sense to do what is right.

Whatever helps you enjoy the game more dude.
Seeing as Allaince servers are already a thing made by the players themselves, I don't see an implemented system to be a bad thing, uneeded, or unwanted.
It's obviously something a lot of players want.
The only people who seem to have an issue with the idea are the ones who believe players should be forced to play the game a certain way.

@hiradc said in Alliances:

@xxcoldfangxx you say about forcing people to play a specific way, and yet criticise the devs for specifically designing the game based on their intentions.

The harsh reality is, pve is easy. Once you get relatively competent at the game there is very little challenge from pve alone and its designed intentionally this way because there is always the threat of pvp being added to the mix.
I'll never understand the mentality of people who want pve modes or alliance servers (and I'm not hard-core pvp, yes I enjoy it but neither pve nor pvp I couldn't do in isolation would quickly become boring so I do both). It's the combination which makes the game unique and allows for variety in each voyage.

Thing is, games are always designed with specific playstyles and themes in mind. But how many of those games force people to actually play by those standards?
Imo none of the good ones do.

There is a big lack in preferce for people who want to enjoy the game a certain way because the game devs believe their game should be played one such way, when truth is there is thousands of people who want to play the game and enjoy it, but have different concepts on how they would like to enjoy it.

I can see how pve can get boring to some people, I'm not one of them though. I don't always have a large group of friends to play with, but when I do, I want it to be easier to play with them.
There really isn't an issue to what I'm suggesting. Alliance Servers already exist because it's what people want.
It really wouldn't hurt the game to add an option to join one from the lobby.
The devs fail to see it and because of it their player base more than likely isn't going to continue to grow. There should never be a problem to have preferences or to have multiple options, yet when you get games like Sot where the devs are die hard, on a specific idea, then it becomes a problem.