Small boats are not fast enough to outrun large ships.
I like to sail solo now and then but I'm constantly finding griefers that I just can't sail fast enough despite having the sails to the wind the whole time.
The last time I managed to do a handbrake turn and still they managed to turn in time to catch up with me.
Please sort this out so I have at least a fighting chance to out pace griefers on large ships like it's supposed to do.
@markobi1 a sloop actually can outrun a galleon. The trick is that you have to be sailing against the wind.
Essentially, if you are sailing full speed with the winds at your back, and you are being chased by a galleon, you're already doomed. Galleons have the advantage when they have the wind. But a way to keep them at bay is to sail as directly against the wind as possible. You can't quite outrun them while doing this, but they won't catch up with you, either. Keep sailing like that for awhile, and you may stand a chance.
Hope this helps! :)
@markobi1 then it serves you right for filling your ship with loot, you are asking to get robbed. Little and often if you choose to go solo, then you don't lose much if u do get caught up
@markobi1 As Titan stated you have a chance to escape a galleon if you sail AGAINST the wind. Galleons move incredibly slow into the wind and you can use that to your advantage. Especially when you're near a large island. You can use the manuverability of your smaller ship to squeeze between rocks.
You can also travel over shallower water than a galleon can. And if all else fails always carry a powder keg or two to drop off the back of your ship. If you're sailing into the wind and place a keg in their way it will force them to change direction, thus increasing the distance between the two ships.
Instead of giving up just learn from your mistakes. It'll make you a better pirate!
I've outrun galleons in a sloop. As others have mentioned, you just need to sail against the wind. But you can improve your odds even more if you tack back and forth. That means sailing at an angle into the wind, then quickly reversing your angle of attack and angling sails. A sloop can tack very quickly and easily, while a galleon takes a lot more effort and coordination. Most galleon crews will tire very quickly of such a chase, and some won't even bother. Add some tricky maneuvers like sailing between rocks and through shallow waters, and you'll have no trouble at all evading galleons.
Sailing in a straight line is almost always a bad idea.
@genuine-heather there's even more ways to gain speed over an opponent, I just wonder if I do myself a favour spilling that knowledge...
@methetron-mkii filling my ship is not the problem, outrunning large ships is the problem but thanks to Titan and Joergie I now know a way to try improve my odds.
So my point to you is if you have nothing constructive to say then please just say nothing.
Thanks
@markobi1 did you do the Merrick quest?
If so, remember the island with the cave you had to dive in?
Good.
It has extensive reefs all around.
If you did the Merrick stuff on a sloop you might not have noticed them.
A Galleon will notice them.
You can figure out the rest from here ;-)
@lefaux2 said in Small boat speed not fast enough to outrun large ships:
@markobi1 did you do the Merrick quest?
If so, remember the island with the cave you had to dive in?
Good.It has extensive reefs all around.
If you did the Merrick stuff on a sloop you might not have noticed them.
A Galleon will notice them.You can figure out the rest from here ;-)
that will only work if you are close by
I wouldn't agree on the first tip - and sailing back to an outpost often consumes alot of time.
Personally i would change that to ALWAYS check the horizon for ships - so you dont get ambushed when at an island, which is basically the only way you'll lose your ship & treasure, if you master the other five of your tips anyways.
@markobi1 said in Small boat speed not fast enough to outrun large ships:
Also I'd like to add the fact that I spent over 2 hours trying to get as many chests as I could, only to be chased down by
grieferspirates with no chance of escaping and being left feeling very angry and frustrated and that puts me off playing sea of thieves.
There, I fixed that for you. You were chased down by pirates, not griefers. Learn the bloody difference.
@tralalakk said in Small boat speed not fast enough to outrun large ships:
that will only work if you are close by
Close by what?
You mean if the Galleon is close to you?
@lefaux2 no close to that island i know there are other places but if they start chasing you on other side of the map you probably wont make it to that island
@tralalakk said in Small boat speed not fast enough to outrun large ships:
@lefaux2 no close to that island i know there are other places but if they start chasing you on other side of the map you probably wont make it to that island
There is more than one island where you can do this. In fact, you could theoretically do this on every island. The sloop can sail through much shallower waters, so the trick is to have a tight turn around islands.
@markobi1 I have one more tip for you: If I get chased by a galleon, I'll drive against the wind in a straight line and observe the galleon.
If they are following me straight, I make sure to have open seas in front of me and take a gun powder keg, jump in front of my ship into the water and swim towards the galleon, while hiding my gamer tag underwater. If I need to catch breath, I'll do and check my position to the galleons one. Then, if the enemy hull comes in side, I drop the gun powder keg and get myself in a save position to climb on the galleons ladder.
If I miss the ship, I use the mermaid, ensure my ships course is save (including wind direction and edge of the map)
After the explosion I immiediately drop their anchor, take their bananas, hide at the ammo-chest. If somebody is catching or raising the anchor or I hear somebody repairing bottom deck, I shoot him point blank with blunderbuss. If I get two of them while repairing and stall the other two for a few seconds, their ship will be sunk.
If I don't have a gun powder keg, I do the same, get on their ship, drop anchor and stall them as long as possible. While my ship is sailing straight away, I increase the distance between my ship and the enemy galleon. This will make them give up eventually.
Good luck and fair seas matey!
@titanguard117 The Sloop is also more maneuverable, so if you can make it to an area with rocks you can weave through them and have a better chance of escape...
I personally hate playing solo because I'm usually bullied by Galleon crews, but when I have to because I don't have any friends with SoT I'm always on edge, which kinda ruins the game.
@markobi1 I literally just did this last night. By sailing into the wind the sloop does have an advantage over the galleon, it's just a gradual increase in distance as the speed is reduced. Also noteworthy, if you're far enough in front the galleon can make up ground when you turn, due to them using an optimal line of trajectory (going in a straight line only).
Luckily, someone already wrote a tips guide on this: sloop mastery 50+ tips & tricks.
@markobi1 it can outrun a Galleon. But obviously not in straight line.
The Galleon strengths are speed and firepower.
The sloop is more manoeuvrable and recoverable.
To outrun a Galleon you need to make use of that, and the islands and rocks, quick turns.
Make use of the Galleon speed and lack of agility to drop some gunpowder and try some sneak infiltration.
Just running away in straight line doing nothing else is a direct line to the bottom of the ocean.
@markobi1 sagte in Small boat speed not fast enough to outrun large ships:
Small boats are not fast enough to outrun large ships.
True. Because that's not the way you outrun large ships.
You're request just shows, you did not understand the advantages of your ship.
@markobi1 sagte in Small boat speed not fast enough to outrun large ships:
I like to sail solo now and then but I'm constantly finding griefers that I just can't sail fast enough despite having the sails to the wind the whole time.
Please don't mix up "pirates" and "griefers". People, who hunt you down for your treasure are PIRATES. This is the most intended behavior of players: to hunt for treasure!
Griefers are players, who play to ruin the fun of others.
An example of griefing is this:
@dutchyankee sagte in Small boat speed not fast enough to outrun large ships:
- when all else fails sail off the edge. (Never, ever let them get your treasure. It just encourages this type of poor behaviour.)
If you sink your ship in the red sea just to ensure nobody will get the treasure, you are a griefer. You spoil the fun of others for no personal benefit.
You are actually exploiting the end of the map in a way, it was not designed for.
Join the Sea of Thieves discord, find and make friends.
If you're solo slooping, you should always keep eyes open for ships - never spend too much time focusing on an island, find some higher ground and look around to make sure you don't get blind-sided and return to your sinking wreckage by the time you've found that buried chest.
A galleon has 3 masts with a total of 7 sails, your sloop only has 1 sail.
The only way you can turn that to your advantage is by sailing against the wind. Remember, the game is primarily balanced around the 4man Galleon, and the sloop is designed to be sailed by 2 people (while being accessible for a single person) Give the social aspects of the game a chance, join the discord channel and speak with folks!
@markobi1 cash in loot often...don't build it up. I always look at the loot as not mine until I have claimed it at an outpost. That way your ain't setting yourself up mentally for a fall if you are pirated...
@ulfwizard sagte in Small boat speed not fast enough to outrun large ships:
@markobi1 cash in loot often...don't build it up. I always look at the loot as not mine until I have claimed it at an outpost. That way your ain't setting yourself up mentally for a fall if you are pirated...
Exactly!
Unitl you sold your stuff, it is not yours!
And you have no right to be spared from piracy. Piracy is part of the game. It is the most essential part of the game. It's a pirate game, not a "burry for treasure game", not a "sell chickens game"... PIRACY!
@dutchyankee sagte in Small boat speed not fast enough to outrun large ships:
@longingfern4785 If I decide to sink my treasure off the edge of the map I am not "Griefing" anyone. You may not like it, but that is your problem.
Until you get your hands on my treasure it is mine to do with as I please. I can spend it, hide it, sink it or give it away.
Just because you decide to chase me doesn't give you any more "claim" to my treasure than anyone else in the game.
If you can't get it from me that's sad for you. It may cause you grief, but it doesn't make me a "Griefer".
But you talked about "poor behavior". Look at you.
Your behavior is childish and pathetic.
It's like losing at monopoly and kicking away the game board, so nobody can win!
Or destroying your castle of sand after a trip to the beach, so nobody else can play with it!
There are competitive games, where this kind of behavior (kill denying, quitting from games because you lose etc) is a banable action.
Just because it's not banable here, does not make it less pathetic or antisocial.
If you are bad at losing, then don't play games.
@dutchyankee sagte in Small boat speed not fast enough to outrun large ships:
Your point was that sailing off into the Red Sea is an exploit. If you can provide me with any confirmation from Rare backing this statement up then I will admit that it is a form of "Griefing". Until then, enjoy your opinion. And don't bother chasing me while I am working....
Confirmation?
There is an easy definition of "exploit": If you abuse a feature of a game, you are exploiting. The red sea is the map border. It was not designed to delete items.
Maybe Rare or the community has no problem with this "side effect", but it's still an exploit.
@dutchyankee sagte in Small boat speed not fast enough to outrun large ships:
@longingfern4785 Rare has stated this? Or that is your personal definition of "exploit"?
Do I care, what Rare stated?
This is not my personal definition of exploit, but it's the common definition. It's also the first sentence on wikipedia, if you look up "Exploit".
"In video games, an exploit is the use of a bug or glitches, game system, rates, hit boxes, speed or level design etc. by a player to their advantage in a manner not intended by the game's designers."
It's not stated a "banable exploit" by Rare, if you are refering to this.
I am aware to be a minority. Whenever I log into the game, I have to face this. Most people are not up for PvP, but for doing their own stuff.. they want to become Pirate Legend, while not doing any act of Piracy..
This community is becoming like the GTA community more and more.
"GTA5 Online is a social game. You don't have to attack everybody. We are doing missions."
Doing missions? For what? All you can do with the money is buying weapons of mass destruction. So how is saving money on weapons of mass destruction a social act? And what, if not war, is your intention with these weapons?
@longingfern4785 is that you can be legendary without using "piracy"( we need lvl up 3 factions and the best way to levels up is by doing missions not stealing from others), and so the game is designed like that and everyone plays as they want, or are you going to tell us how to play?
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