There are 2 types of people that play sea of thieves. Predators and prey. Everyone has the choice to be either one at any given moment. The problem with having pvp and pve separate is the fact that predator and prey will be in different servers. The passive players who don’t want to be bothered (the ones with all the treasure to steal) will all be in one server, and all the predators (who will completely lack treasure) will be in another. The problem is there’s 0 threat for the pve and 0 treasure for the pvp. Progression would also be pointless, doing an endless grind with no threat, while the others playing in pvp get the same reward for much more risk. I think not.
Why a PVE server wouldn’t work
Separate PVE and PVP servers would work well in my opinion. PVEers can go about their business in their own way without any interruptions and PVPers would have better quality of opponents to play against. Almost every time I encounter PVP the other player never wants or takes my treasure. They just want to KILL and SINK ships. Saying separate servers wouldn't work or would ruin the game is just not really thinking it through. Perhaps it wouldn't work for you but there's plenty of other people playing too. Just join the server that suits your play style at the time. Everybody is after something different and sometimes it would be nice just to muck about in this beautiful environment without having to constantly watch your back. It would also give more social PVEers a better opportunity to meet other players in game, sharing tips and stories. I would personally play both from time to time depending on my current mood and the friends I'm playing with. Honestly some of my best times with this game have involved not even seeing another ship.
Just my 2 cents. Anyone agree?@timboagogo
Sorry mate its not gonna happen. Rare has adressed this numerous times. Splits the community and goes against the core of the game. Their words not mine. They want you to be under constant threat of attack. Overcomming odds and delivering treasure safely is what the excitement is all about.@timboagogo sagte in Why a PVE server wouldn’t work:
Separate PVE and PVP servers would work well in my opinion. PVEers can go about their business in their own way without any interruptions and PVPers would have better quality of opponents to play against. Almost every time I encounter PVP the other player never wants or takes my treasure. They just want to KILL and SINK ships. Saying separate servers wouldn't work or would ruin the game is just not really thinking it through. Perhaps it wouldn't work for you but there's plenty of other people playing too. Just join the server that suits your play style at the time. Everybody is after something different and sometimes it would be nice just to muck about in this beautiful environment without having to constantly watch your back. It would also give more social PVEers a better opportunity to meet other players in game, sharing tips and stories. I would personally play both from time to time depending on my current mood and the friends I'm playing with. Honestly some of my best times with this game have involved not even seeing another ship.
Just my 2 cents. Anyone agree?I agree and so many other people. The argument is always the same: Splitting the playerbase or as op states it "easy target" would be not existent on pvp server, but then pvp server would be kos servers. Splitting the playerbase is just a fancy term for saying: But mAh eAsY tARgEts
If thats good, i don't know. Do I want PvE servers? Hell yes! Why? So I sometimes can relax in this game. The all time tense situations are really fun but all the time just stressful. I'm level 20 everywhere and it was really fund getting there, hopping on an outpost while my ship just drives straight away with a galleon behind and me cashing it.
But today I wanted to play but thought nah, not worth the stress ^^, maybe tomorrow. Am still on the free trial so thats fine
@nwo-azcrack What Rare does is up to Rare. But arguing against someone's take on how it might/might not work is what they are talking about. Not what's likely to happen.
@buckshot-matt
Im not arguing. Im telling you it wont work. They tried it in development and decided it was againt the core of the game. Their words not mine. I would hate to see someone hang around hoping for a pve server when its not gonna happen. Might as well face the facts that this is the version of the game rare wants@hcvaughan sagte in Why a PVE server wouldn’t work:
@therealdadbeard then pve servers xp should be 25% of normal if not less.
Yeah something has to be changed for sure because it's then just a Pirate Booty Simulator™ or something haha. I don't mind that I like sims and the relaxing time. Like I said, the pvp for me is not the issue but the all time tense moment.
@nwo-azcrack lol... "ok." Well, then I guess there really are absolutes in the universe. So let's just say this game tanked in the next 6 months. Do you think Rare will not consider any changes? Or just stubbornly let 4 years of development sink because they stated something during development?
@buckshot-matt sagte in Why a PVE server wouldn’t work:
@nwo-azcrack lol... "ok." Well, then I guess there really are absolutes in the universe.
that dude gets abosulutely triggered by the "e" on pv xD .. he's just waiting in the closet to jump out and shout at you: bUt tHe dEvS sAiD nEvEr!11!!
@nwo-azcrack said in Why a PVE server wouldn’t work:
@timboagogo
Sorry mate its not gonna happen. Rare has adressed this numerous times. Splits the community and goes against the core of the game. Their words not mine. They want you to be under constant threat of attack. Overcomming odds and delivering treasure safely is what the excitement is all about.Don't be sorry, I'm pretty sure you're not in charge of any of RAREs future decisions.
I will say it again though..... Everybody is after a different experience. Many agree and many don't but I would love to know the numbers each way on this particular topic.@therealdadbeard Yeah I know....thinking games developers don't change, evolve, or grow with a community....
@buckshot-matt said in Why a PVE server wouldn’t work:
@therealdadbeard Yeah I know....thinking games developers don't change, evolve, or grow with a community....
the made a game that doesn't cater to PvE or PvP exclusively, and its been 2 weeks.. once the exclusive minded players leave the people that are left will be the community that sticks with this game and appreciates it for what it is... and then rare will have the right community to listen too.
@savagetwinky said in Why a PVE server wouldn’t work:
@buckshot-matt said in Why a PVE server wouldn’t work:
@therealdadbeard Yeah I know....thinking games developers don't change, evolve, or grow with a community....
the made a game that doesn't cater to PvE or PvP exclusively, and its been 2 weeks.. once the exclusive minded players leave the people that are left will be the community that sticks with this game and appreciates it for what it is... and then rare will have the right community to listen too.
Perhaps...even if they might be losing a huge profit. I guess that's a possibility.
@buckshot-matt said in Why a PVE server wouldn’t work:
@savagetwinky said in Why a PVE server wouldn’t work:
@buckshot-matt said in Why a PVE server wouldn’t work:
@therealdadbeard Yeah I know....thinking games developers don't change, evolve, or grow with a community....
the made a game that doesn't cater to PvE or PvP exclusively, and its been 2 weeks.. once the exclusive minded players leave the people that are left will be the community that sticks with this game and appreciates it for what it is... and then rare will have the right community to listen too.
Perhaps...even if they might be losing a huge profit. I guess that's a possibility.
well, they may also gain a huge profit... games can't and won't cater to everyone. And there is probably a larger unserved market of players that want PvE and PvP experiences... the market is significantly more served for both exclusive minded players.
@savagetwinky said in Why a PVE server wouldn’t work:
@buckshot-matt said in Why a PVE server wouldn’t work:
@savagetwinky said in Why a PVE server wouldn’t work:
@buckshot-matt said in Why a PVE server wouldn’t work:
@therealdadbeard Yeah I know....thinking games developers don't change, evolve, or grow with a community....
the made a game that doesn't cater to PvE or PvP exclusively, and its been 2 weeks.. once the exclusive minded players leave the people that are left will be the community that sticks with this game and appreciates it for what it is... and then rare will have the right community to listen too.
Perhaps...even if they might be losing a huge profit. I guess that's a possibility.
well, they may also gain a huge profit... games can't and won't cater to everyone. And there is probably a larger unserved market of players that want PvE and PvP experiences... the market is significantly more served for both exclusive minded players.
It will be interesting to see the future of this game. While I neither hate or really love it, I do wonder what it's future is.
@savagetwinky sagte in Why a PVE server wouldn’t work:
@buckshot-matt said in Why a PVE server wouldn’t work:
@savagetwinky said in Why a PVE server wouldn’t work:
@buckshot-matt said in Why a PVE server wouldn’t work:
@therealdadbeard Yeah I know....thinking games developers don't change, evolve, or grow with a community....
the made a game that doesn't cater to PvE or PvP exclusively, and its been 2 weeks.. once the exclusive minded players leave the people that are left will be the community that sticks with this game and appreciates it for what it is... and then rare will have the right community to listen too.
Perhaps...even if they might be losing a huge profit. I guess that's a possibility.
well, they may also gain a huge profit... games can't and won't cater to everyone. And there is probably a larger unserved market of players that want PvE and PvP experiences... the market is significantly more served for both exclusive minded players.
Game is 12+ and there are already people complaining that they can't play that game because of the evergoing pvp
@buckshot-matt said in Why a PVE server wouldn’t work:
It will be interesting to see the future of this game. While in neither hate or really love it, I do wonder what it's future is.
It reminds me of the days when WoW pvp servers were still new.. I was never interested in the story in the quests, it was all the same content to me, different locations didn't make a huge difference... but the chaos that happened because of the PvP was legendary. But then everyone hit 60 and the world pvp fell apart where people had massive benefits from raid gear.
I see this game as potentially scratching that itch, its not an arena game, its not a progression based rpg, its a world pvp/adventure game.
@therealdadbeard said in Why a PVE server wouldn’t work:
well, they may also gain a huge profit... games can't and won't cater to everyone. And there is probably a larger unserved market of players that want PvE and PvP experiences... the market is significantly more served for both exclusive minded players.
Game is 12+ and there are already people complaining that they can't play that game because of the evergoing pvp
12+ ? It was released just about 2 weeks, or 3? It'll take longer than that to find the market so long as they don't butcher the game. They won't be able to redesign it to a traditional PvE fast enough. They might be able to create some arena game modes though.
@savagetwinky To be completely honest, I kind of find this game boring. I play solo sloop and hardly see any other players. The quests are boring as heck, and the map is pretty much empty. I guess I was kind of drawn in with the videos they showed during development, but wow....I didn't realize how boring it is. At this point, I really do feel like I bought the wrong game if this is it.
@buckshot-matt said in Why a PVE server wouldn’t work:
@savagetwinky To be completely honest, I kind of find this game boring. I play solo sloop and hardly see any other players. The quests are boring as heck, and the map is pretty much empty. I guess I was kind of drawn in with the videos they showed during development, but wow....I didn't realize how boring it is. At this point, I really do feel like I bought the wrong game if this is it.
Solo sloops shouldn't be in the game, or sloops really, it should really force people to play in teams and really strive to keep the servers populated with galleons. There are definitely some issues where you can end up on an empty server which turns the game into a giant fetch quest simulator.
Or completely separate servers by ship type.
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@therealdadbeard said in Why a PVE server wouldn’t work:
well, they may also gain a huge profit... games can't and won't cater to everyone. And there is probably a larger unserved market of players that want PvE and PvP experiences... the market is significantly more served for both exclusive minded players.
Game is 12+ and there are already people complaining that they can't play that game because of the evergoing pvp
12+ ? It was released just about 2 weeks, or 3? It'll take longer than that to find the market so long as they don't butcher the game. They won't be able to redesign it to a traditional PvE fast enough. They might be able to create some arena game modes though.
12+ rated
@therealdadbeard said in Why a PVE server wouldn’t work:
@savagetwinky sagte in Why a PVE server wouldn’t work:
@therealdadbeard said in Why a PVE server wouldn’t work:
well, they may also gain a huge profit... games can't and won't cater to everyone. And there is probably a larger unserved market of players that want PvE and PvP experiences... the market is significantly more served for both exclusive minded players.
Game is 12+ and there are already people complaining that they can't play that game because of the evergoing pvp
12+ ? It was released just about 2 weeks, or 3? It'll take longer than that to find the market so long as they don't butcher the game. They won't be able to redesign it to a traditional PvE fast enough. They might be able to create some arena game modes though.
12+ rated
Oh not sure what you were responding too
@savagetwinky sagte in Why a PVE server wouldn’t work:
@therealdadbeard said in Why a PVE server wouldn’t work:
@savagetwinky sagte in Why a PVE server wouldn’t work:
@therealdadbeard said in Why a PVE server wouldn’t work:
well, they may also gain a huge profit... games can't and won't cater to everyone. And there is probably a larger unserved market of players that want PvE and PvP experiences... the market is significantly more served for both exclusive minded players.
Game is 12+ and there are already people complaining that they can't play that game because of the evergoing pvp
12+ ? It was released just about 2 weeks, or 3? It'll take longer than that to find the market so long as they don't butcher the game. They won't be able to redesign it to a traditional PvE fast enough. They might be able to create some arena game modes though.
12+ rated
Oh not sure what you were responding too
Now I'm completely confused. My post was just about the game being ratet for people at 12+ Years and then the rest of my comment. I thought you thought I meant how longs the game out. xD
@therealdadbeard said in Why a PVE server wouldn’t work:
@savagetwinky sagte in Why a PVE server wouldn’t work:
@therealdadbeard said in Why a PVE server wouldn’t work:
@savagetwinky sagte in Why a PVE server wouldn’t work:
@therealdadbeard said in Why a PVE server wouldn’t work:
well, they may also gain a huge profit... games can't and won't cater to everyone. And there is probably a larger unserved market of players that want PvE and PvP experiences... the market is significantly more served for both exclusive minded players.
Game is 12+ and there are already people complaining that they can't play that game because of the evergoing pvp
12+ ? It was released just about 2 weeks, or 3? It'll take longer than that to find the market so long as they don't butcher the game. They won't be able to redesign it to a traditional PvE fast enough. They might be able to create some arena game modes though.
12+ rated
Oh not sure what you were responding too
Now I'm completely confused. My post was just about the game being ratet for people at 12+ Years and then the rest of my comment. I thought you thought I meant how longs the game out. xD
well yah you responded to my posted which had nothing to do about age with just 12+ then the rest of your comment.
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