Not a real pirate game if you can't steal from ships

Hi there

That would be an amazing idea.
I love that treasure seeking,and if we could solve riddles from other players and try to find their treasure....AWESOME!!!

@barnacle-remson said in Not a real pirate game if you can't steal from ships:

@svetli97
I See you studied Piracy on the Pirates University of piratery.

lol

I see you mentioned stealing maps from other players and I think that would definitely be a good idea. I'm surprised that it's not implemented yet, but then of course it might become a thing in the full game depending on what Rare got up their sleeves.

No thanks. You may as well make the game single player only at that point. All ships should be player controlled. And i don't want to spend an hour trying to find and chase after another ship just to find it's an NPC when i finally get to it.

@rildan so what do you gain from fighting another pirate ship? You sink them and then what? You win nothing. If you have chests on your ship you could lose them. But I've almost never encountered another pirate ship that had loot on it. What's the point of sinking a ship if you don't gain anything from it?

@svetli97 You mean why PVP? Because it's fun. And my intention isn't to sink it. Usually i'll try to jump their ship and then take as much resources i can.

@e0se said in Not a real pirate game if you can't steal from ships:

Npc's will kill the point of the game stop being Xbox players and start trying to think outside if the dumb Xbox. Dayz would be dead and pointless (even more so then what the devs did to it) with npc's to loot around the map, pubg pointless, fortnight pointless, ark, pointless. The point of these types of games, which I know is hard for Xbox players to grasp. Isn't to add more npc's it needs to be a way to add more reasons for players to interact. I agree there needs to be more. Something. But adding npcs isnt the way. The point is when you rarely see a ship you know its someone else. You known you can either run or fight or maybe even work together. There needs to be better missions on stealing. Maybe random sunken treasure ships around the map that will pop up for everyone and you can try to go loot it, and it will have a lot of gold and a lot of special weapons and gear. I also think they do need to add special options for you ship maybe thing you unlock by doing these risky missions that everyone on the map can see. Like you can have special wood that your ship is made out of to make it harder to sink, but makes it slower, or things like that. Or else you end up with a game as wide as the ocean but only a inch deep. I don't fully have an opinion on the game yet. I do know they need to add more. But as for playability its fun!! I enjoy it and will play it for hours! Will it keep me coming back for weeks/ months no sure I hope so!

This.
About the sunken treasure ships i believe they are already in the game. At least i found a half sunken one with the tip above the surface. I dove down and explored and there was a treasure inside in the bottom deck :D

@svetli97 Your post in general highlights the main problem I have with the game - not enough content.

Honestly I don't even know what the point of this game is.

@cyberlith I don't think it's fair to judge the game's content from the scale tests/early beta tests alone. In the full game there will be more quests to do and more content will be added post launch, things like ship customization for instance.

@cyberlith As far as I understand it the point of the game is to just mess around. It's a sandbox game. You could compare it to Minecraft in that it is also a sandbox game. There are things that will give you some general directions or options for things to do when you have no idea what you want to do next but the main point is that you can do whatever you want.

@cyberlith the point is to mess around with friends acting all piraty. It's an advanced party game. I love it but if you don't this game just isn't for you.

@greenswede ship customization makes your ship look better but it doesn't change how the game is played.

@v**a-hombre My point is to make it more fun. Will you be willing to dig up treasure for hundreds of hours on the same tiny map?

@svetli97 True, and that's how Rare wants to design the game. While a lot of people clearly want a progression system which gives them better things, Rare does not want players to have better weapons, ships than anyone else in terms of stats. It's all skill based, which I like personally.

@e0se I'm a pc player.

@coyote4711 Let me explain this in a way that you might understand. Do people who steal steal from other people who do so or do they steal from people who don't do so? There is a reason why only one of the options is true.

I don't think there needs to be npc ships all over the place. But kind of like skeleton fort raids it would be cool to see a large treasure ship spawn that has routes it can take. Then pirates fight over the treasure. The ship will obviously be much larger than our ships (with more cannons!). It could even be escorted by two sloops on each side requiring multiple pirates to take down. And again, these won't be all over the place making it a single player game. They will be events that take place. Like an alternative raid.

@rarebabysteaks do you really think they will change that in the future? I don't.

We all know what a true Pirate Legend would do.

Expanding Brain

If you don't raise your reputation with the merchants alliance, you don't get to legend.
So people will do those missions.

However I do like the idea of NPC cargo ships and pirate hunter ships. Though the game Skull and Bones is going to have those so it'll look like an idea stolen from them.

You could even have different fleets flying under different flags so that you might have a couple different navies hunting whichever flag you attacked. This could lead to there being privateers that only attack one side in service to the other.

I'm sure pirates stole from each other, but it's true most the time they took from easier targets.