The level requirements for “Guardians of Fortune” and “Servants of the Flame” cursed cosmetics ranging to Level 1,000 is just downright ridiculous. “But it’s already so easy to get” you said? Say that after you tried unlocking them solo, I’ve encountered players with HOURS into the game and haven’t even bothered trying to unlock even one due to the high level requirement. Some die hard players might think this is unfair due to them having to go through it and not others (which is common), although just because they went through something it doesn’t mean others have to as well. The max level required I believe should be 200/500 max, the “Tall Tales” in the game already lack excitement enough (especially solo). I concluded that reducing the level requirement for “cursed cosmetics” will make players more engaged with trying to unlock them.
Reducing Level Requirements On Curses.
“But it’s already so easy to get” you said? Say that after you tried unlocking them solo
Then group up and don't play solo. Anyways, you'll soon have 6 sloop BR mode, so there's that.
Some die hard players might think this is unfair due to them having to go through it and not others (which is common)
Because it is.
although just because they went through something it doesn’t mean others have to as well
It does.
I concluded that reducing the level requirement for “cursed cosmetics” will make players more engaged with trying to unlock them.
Bad conclusion 😂 Lazy players who want instant gratification 0 effort, and ppl who obviously do not care enough about unlocking them, won't pursue unlocking them. Simple as that.
If you identify with either - it's nobody's loss, as it's a "you problem".
So you go from hourglass needs to be scrapped, to how fun hourglass is now, to how the curse you want should be lowered to level 500 because you really want a curse and it's impossible to do it solo (I've already done it by the way 😂).
If you want something hard enough, nothing will stand in your way, and you won't make excuses. You'll just go after it. Do it or don't. But don't complain that just because so many already have it, they should lower it to make it easier for you.
@europa4033 Of course Hourglass needs to be Scrapped obviously never denied it, but you expect players to waste hours of time for something that doesn’t really mean that much? Some people have lives you know? [mod removed]
@littlelungzz591 said in Reducing Level Requirements On Curses.:
@europa4033 Of course Hourglass needs to be Scrapped obviously never denied it, but you expect players to waste hours of time for something that doesn’t really mean that much? Some people have lives you know? [mod removed]
If "it doesn't mean that much", then it shouldn't matter to you. Ironic you're asking for the levels to be lowered....since you want it so badly while not meaning anything to you
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Also, I've done exactly what you described. Did I "waste" my time playing my favorite game? Absolutely not. This game is my favorite hobby. Something I enjoy doing is never a waste of time to me.For someone wanting HG scrapped, who makes a post saying how great it is now, to you wanting levels to be lowered for a curse that doesn't mean anything since you're wasting your time and have a life, you're all over the place man. Pick a lane.
I feel like they could add a few extra curses to fill the gap, such as different eye colours for Guardians of Fortune & more full Ghost Curse Colours, and more bones for Skeleton Curse (such as shadow skeletons, to go with the Ghost Curse Colours I just suggested) as well as some extra cosmetics, but I couldn't see them lower the requirements for the existing items.
Adding some extras though would make the grind more interesting because you would have more things to work towards
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@europa4033 The concept of the Sea Of Thieves needing to be a easy to pick up pirate game is just way too big for some people’s brain to wrap around honestly. With that in consideration technically everything I said lines up perfectly actually. I’ve already obtained some curses, After I did the rewards felt empty and useless and not worth the time/effort put in and the truth is…nobody will care. Furthermore, Never mentioned in that post that “Hourglass” is good, it needs to be scraped is what I said may be hard to believe. We’re all on the same lane here maybe just you just can’t keep up? Im already on thin ice with @Look-Behind-You on these forms so I have to watch what I say. The truth is I take what learnt and carve into something better for others. You’ll maybe thank me one day when the game is better.
@littlelungzz591 said in Reducing Level Requirements On Curses.:
@europa4033 The concept of the Sea Of Thieves needing to be a easy to pick up pirate game is just way too big for some people’s brain to wrap around honestly. With that in consideration technically everything I said lines up perfectly actually. I’ve already obtained some curses, After I did the rewards felt empty and useless and not worth the time/effort put in and the truth is…nobody will care. Furthermore, Never mentioned in that post that “Hourglass” is good, it needs to be scraped is what I said may be hard to believe. We’re all on the same lane here maybe just you just can’t keep up? Im already on thin ice with @Look-Behind-You on these forms so I have to watch what I say. The truth is I take what learnt and carve into something better for others. You’ll maybe thank me one day when the game is better.
I've already gotten my hourglass gold curse. I did it mostly solo, as you challenged readers to do in your post. I've never once complained that getting to lvl 1,000 is too difficult, ridiculous, or a waste of time. I also never came to the forums saying that since it was so meaningless, the level should be reduced. Perhaps it is you that can't keep up?
The topics you post vary so wildly, they're all over the place. Hourglass needs to be scrapped. Then you say the changes they make won't make a single difference. Then days later you post how wonderful the new changes/hourglass has become. Now you're here asking for the curse to be at a lower level to make it easier, since doing it solo is apparantly so difficult for you, getting a curse that means nothing.....to YOU. You want it gone, love how it currently is, but hate getting to level 1,000 for a curse that's meaningless to YOU so you want the level dropped. Like I said, you're all over the place.
No one ever said Sea of Thieves needs to be an easy-to-pick-up game. On the contrary, it has one of the highest learning curves, and that's not by accident. It takes time, patience, tenacity, and experience to get better. Just because your curses felt empty and useless/not worth your time compared to the effort you put in, doesn't make it true for others. If it's too difficult for you, don't go after something as meaningless. I however, am almost halfway to my second gold curse. Currently doing it solo for a second time as well. You have 27 days played. I have 500. You'll thank me later when you gain more experience and go after your goals, instead of asking for them to be made easier and making excuses as to why it can't possibly be done. Like I said, perhaps it's you who can't keep up?
@europa4033 If I didn’t know any better I’d assume you’ve been waiting for me to post can’t blame you honestly. I understand, truly I do you already wasted so many hours grinding out curses that your heart would simply sink through the floor if they were to start accommodating to newer players, instead of the same washed up 1,000 hours players constantly complaining. Just because you’re “grinding out curses for the second time”and have all the time in the world doesn’t change the fact that level 1,000 is unacceptable. Also give that HG thing a rest why don’t you honestly, sadly I gave you only one thing you can combat me with and here you are clinging to it, it won’t come that easy again, Even I make mistakes though I guess….Also @BurnBacon Never mentioned the game was “To hard”…it’s just simply disappointing to see Sea Of Thieves throw away it’s potential due to the 1,000 hour players making the job harder.
@littlelungzz591 said in Reducing Level Requirements On Curses.:
@europa4033 If I didn’t know any better I’d assume you’ve been waiting for me to post can’t blame you honestly. I understand, truly I do you already wasted so many hours grinding out curses that your heart would simply sink through the floor if they were to start accommodating to newer players, instead of the same washed up 1,000 hours players constantly complaining. Just because you’re “grinding out curses for the second time”and have all the time in the world doesn’t change the fact that level 1,000 is unacceptable. Also give that HG thing a rest why don’t you honestly, sadly I gave you only one thing you can combat me with and here you are clinging to it, it won’t come that easy again, Even I make mistakes though I guess….Also @BurnBacon Never mentioned the game was “To hard”…it’s just simply disappointing to see Sea Of Thieves throw away it’s potential due to the 1,000 hour players making the job harder.
So by you not getting the curse more easily, sot is “throwing away its potential”? That doesn’t sound a little entitled to you? You don’t need to get every curse in the game, if you find one to be too difficult or time consuming, don’t do it. I still don’t have the shores of gold curse for that very reason, despite being one of those “1000 hours players”. I suppose it’s the 5000 hour players limiting my ability to get the shores of gold curse, by your logic. Or, maybe, it’s just because I don’t feel like doing it.
I think it’s pretty clear that hourglass to you is just a curse that you want, and that’s fine, that’s what many things in this game have been to me, too. But you won’t find me making suggestions to dumb down the shores of gold curse to my benefit, just to make it easier for myself. There are people who really enjoy doing tall tales, who am I, as someone who doesn’t particularly care for them, to suggest that they become easier? That’s exactly what you’re doing with hourglass. Recently you made a scrap hourglass post, even within this post you’ve reiterated that scrapping hourglass is a good idea. Taking hourglass advice from someone who doesn’t even like hourglass, only for them to never look back once they get the curse, is not a good plan.
I like hourglass, many people do. If you like hourglass you’d play it even after getting the curses, if you don’t like hourglass but still want the curses, then man up and deal with it. Not everything in this game should be easy.
Hourglass is just a tool for pvp. That is it and there is no other way to say what hourglass is about.
The curses are just a means to keep playing since if nobody plays it, there be long wait times. Once good enough people got the 100 lvl curse. We’re done playing it and going to pvp in adventure like normal.
Curses are never gonna be easier that the are. Grind and time consuming yes. But you have time. Game isn’t dying or going anywhere.
Even if the servers were to shutdown tomorrow, and you didn’t get them curses. Oh well? So what.Curses don’t mean skill which I’m glad this post is proving just that. It just a long wait to the finish line.
@littlelungzz591 said in Reducing Level Requirements On Curses.:
@europa4033 If I didn’t know any better I’d assume you’ve been waiting for me to post can’t blame you honestly. I understand, truly I do you already wasted so many hours grinding out curses that your heart would simply sink through the floor if they were to start accommodating to newer players, instead of the same washed up 1,000 hours players constantly complaining. Just because you’re “grinding out curses for the second time”and have all the time in the world doesn’t change the fact that level 1,000 is unacceptable. Also give that HG thing a rest why don’t you honestly, sadly I gave you only one thing you can combat me with and here you are clinging to it, it won’t come that easy again, Even I make mistakes though I guess….Also @BurnBacon Never mentioned the game was “To hard”…it’s just simply disappointing to see Sea Of Thieves throw away it’s potential due to the 1,000 hour players making the job harder.
I'm afraid you're mistaken here. I didn't waste my time getting to lvl 1,000. My journey there has helped me become a better player with the tons of practice I've experienced along the way. If my friends can't hop on, I don't mind doing a little hourglass on "off" days. I'm spending time in the game I love anyway, and instead of sailing around aimlessly looking to sink someone (perhaps a new player just trying to find that X on that island without anything that's of interest to me on board), I queue up for a quick match, and earn a few levels. I logged on to have a fight with an opponent in a game I love, and hourglass is the quickest way to do just that. It's exciting and enjoyable to me, so what have I wasted?
If you feel that level 1,000 is "unacceptable", then don't go for it. No one owes you top-tier achievements that you're unwilling to put the time and effort for. IDBZ has earned the title level 9,999 in hourglass, and that's amazing to me. Should I demand Rare to award that title at a lower level just because I'm unwilling to grind for it? Nothing is stopping you from doing hourglass, and with the amazing changes recently added, hourglass is quicker than it's ever been. It's unfortunate you feel that the "1,000 hour players make the job harder." Keep at it. You'll get better before you know it.
You decide what you want to do in this game, but don't complain that something you're unwilling to work towards should be accomodated for you.
You decide what you want to do in this game, but don't complain that something you're unwilling to work towards should be accomodated for you.
Oh dont say that...you bring out the "I dont spend my days playing this game, I have a Job" excuse. (we all have jobs, families, other hobbies/games)
IDBZ has earned the title level 9,999 in hourglass
Spits up drink SWEET MERCY!
I'm with @Europa4033 here. There is a reason I have the Wild Seas Curse, and not the other ones. While I ABSOLUTELY was complaining about the RNG nature of those teeth that whole time, I did buckle down and get it done, because I simply like it that much. I'm honestly kinda jealous of the PvP curses because at least it's a simple straight forward line to get them.
Honestly, at least for a game such as this, the effort required to acquire these items should pale in comparison to how badly you want them. To me, the PvP curses are just kinda ugly and not at all worth the effort to acquire them. The Green and Gold Ghost curses? I wouldn't use em if they were free haha. Washing out my immaculate drip for a singular color? Pffft. I'd be poorer for it.
@capt-greldik it’s not being entitled, never mentioned that curses should be lowered for personal gain, I mentioned that if you could read slightly, that the high level requirement is outrageous and should’ve never been that high in the beginning. Sea of Thieves already gives newer players 0 directions on how to start playing or how to get gold, the game lacks the ability to hook players and you expect them to grind to even level 100 let alone 1,000? Don’t make me laugh to hard. No newer player wants to play Hourglass when they bearly even know how to get gold in the first place. Also @BurnBacon off topic but how is having a job/family an “excuse” for not playing? having things do to outside off the Seas never even crossed your mind did it?
@littlelungzz591 said in Reducing Level Requirements On Curses.:
@capt-greldik it’s not being entitled, never mentioned that curses should be lowered for personal gain, I mentioned that if you could read slightly, that the high level requirement is outrageous and should’ve never been that high in the beginning. Sea of Thieves already gives newer players 0 directions on how to start playing or how to get gold, the game lacks the ability to hook players and you expect them to grind to even level 100 let alone 1,000? Don’t make me laugh to hard. No newer player wants to play Hourglass when they bearly even know how to get gold in the first place. Also @BurnBacon off topic but how is having a job/family an “excuse” for not playing? having things do to outside off the Seas never even crossed your mind did it?
Will never happen.
You can get your basic curse at 100 which is easy to do.
Yes, newer players are at a disadvantage because they are new players. If you jump into the dedicated pvp mode that has been out almost 4 years now and then get mad that it is "too hard" then you have other issues.
People are treating this like a grind. If you don't enjoy it then do something else. You have to earn these rewards.
I can't wait for the Act 3 where you have to win for each faction in the last ship standing where people are going to whine they can't loss farm in there for their rewards lol
I can't wait for the Act 3 where you have to win for each faction in the last ship standing where people are going to whine they can't loss farm in there for their rewards lol
Forgot that was coming and after looking at the "Rewards" I rather wait until they release them under new restrictions.
First few days are gonna be like daily complaints about HG :P@littlelungzz591 said in Reducing Level Requirements On Curses.:
@capt-greldik it’s not being entitled, never mentioned that curses should be lowered for personal gain, I mentioned that if you could read slightly, that the high level requirement is outrageous and should’ve never been that high in the beginning. Sea of Thieves already gives newer players 0 directions on how to start playing or how to get gold, the game lacks the ability to hook players and you expect them to grind to even level 100 let alone 1,000? Don’t make me laugh to hard. No newer player wants to play Hourglass when they bearly even know how to get gold in the first place. Also @BurnBacon off topic but how is having a job/family an “excuse” for not playing? having things do to outside off the Seas never even crossed your mind did it?
I don’t expect them to do anything. They can do whatever they want, that’s sort of the point. Why should a new player be expected to be shooting for the gold curses anyway? Baby steps?
Your entire premise is literally about getting the gold curses more easily. You can tip-toe around that if you like, try to frame it as a “save the new players” crusade, but after “reading slightly” there’s no other interpretation.
You could apply your thoughts on the HG rewards being too difficult/time consuming to so many things in this game, I used the shores of gold curse as an example, which would be much more applicable to what a new player might be pursuing, but you chose to address the HG curses.
Maybe take a break from HG and do some tall tales.
@littlelungzz591 said in Reducing Level Requirements On Curses.:
@capt-greldik it’s not being entitled, never mentioned that curses should be lowered for personal gain, I mentioned that if you could read slightly, that the high level requirement is outrageous and should’ve never been that high in the beginning. Sea of Thieves already gives newer players 0 directions on how to start playing or how to get gold, the game lacks the ability to hook players and you expect them to grind to even level 100 let alone 1,000? Don’t make me laugh to hard. No newer player wants to play Hourglass when they bearly even know how to get gold in the first place. Also @BurnBacon off topic but how is having a job/family an “excuse” for not playing? having things do to outside off the Seas never even crossed your mind did it?
1- You never mentioned that curses should be lowered for personal gain? To quote the title of your post, "Reducing level requirements on curses."
2- If you feel the level is outrageous, don't bother/worry about it.
3- Safer Seas exists to help players learn the basics of the game, to include how to earn gold.
4- No game has the "ability to hook players," as that's relative to each individual. Some may simply not like the style of this game, and that's ok. Reducing gold curse levels isn't going to make them suddenly get hooked here.
5- Yes. The PvP curses are acquired at lvl 100, and it goes on from there.
6- Once again, you don't speak for anyone else. As a newer player, I (and many others) didn't have Safer Seas, or hourglass. We had Arena, where many of us gained experience of naval battles in a multi-ship chaotic event. Not a single player asked for the title "Legendary Sea Dog" to be given at lower levels for newer players "to get them hooked for the benefit of the game, and totally not for personal gain."
7- No newer player wants to do hourglass? Again, you don't speak for everyone. When I was new, I dove right into Arena, which was the perfect teacher for me. I was also able to figure out how to earn gold without Safer Seas, and got hooked on the game without them reducing requirements just for the sake of me having it as a new player.
