Hi. I'm going to assume you read the title. We need these items back. Sea of Thieves is all about cosmetics, and since Rare is bringing back some older cosmetics, I thought I'd just drop this here. I personally own a Festival of The Damned Lantern, and I know plenty of people who want it. I also was around for the Hungering Deep but was never able to get the Drum or anything, and since I've become a Merrick MKII, I don't see any harm in re-releasing these items as a doubloon thing or maybe even an emporium thing. I'm really not picky. I'd say we should do the same thing with specifically Merrick's Tattoo, and Merrick's Scars for all those who become Seasoned Megalodon Hunters. Maybe to get those tattoos they'd need to finish the Wild Seas Bilge Rat Section, and then buy them for doubloons. If that's not possible, then at least re-release Hungering Deep and FOTD stuff, such as the sails, lanterns, drums, trumpets, ect. (at the bare minimum the Drum of the Deep). The tattoos and scars not being re-released will keep uniqueness. It won't ruin the game, but add to self-expression for people who never got the chance to be there, or people who were there that never got the chance either. It's also the best drum in the game, and locking it behind a time - limited event feels wrong.
Bring Back the Old Cosmetics from Hungering Deep Release and FOTD Release!
@fysics3037 I mean... they are a part of people's stories and adventures. Cosmetics are the entire customization/driving force in this game. Just because you don't like or agree with that statement, doesn't make it less true.
If everyone had every accessible rare cosmetic, there would be no spectacle to seeing sets like Bonecrusher, Forsaken Ashes, Wailing Barnacle, etc out on the waves. To paraphrase Syndrome from the Incredibles "If everyone has rare cosmetics, no one does".
Sorry but Rare doesn't need to bring back old cosmetics, because you want them. Recolors? That's completely fine. But if you weren't playing/online during a special event that required effort, then you don't deserve those cosmetics plain and simple. We DO need more cool cosmetics to earn, but re-releasing old cosmetics isn't the way to do it.
@valor-omega yes. That's why we add old cosmetics to the emporium where you can buy them for a 200% markup. Big W Rare, sticking to the old "Cosmetics are part of your story" idea!
@valor-omega maybe a long time ago, nowadays no one cares / knows which event you complete to unlock a set. So there is litteraly no point in gatekeeping.
@blazebeard2313 That does not make it less a part of the story of the pirate who was there for it. On a personal note, in my experience it also opens up for some nice conversations with other pirates when they spot the sails. I've had people come board me only to ask about the Wilds sails, often ending in the telling of tales of pirate adventures from both sides.
@dermasterbob said in Bring Back the Old Cosmetics from Hungering Deep Release and FOTD Release!:
You never know what will happen.
They already brought back the mayhem shipset from a bilgerat adventure, while we all thought bilgerat adventure cosmetics would stay time limited.I thought it was more an Event than an Adventure: basically doing things with fire and gunpowder kegs to earn one or more bits of the set. AFAIK it isn't part of the Bilge Rat Reputation such as the current Wild Seas.
I'd rather see recolours and have them tied to new events. That gives old and new players alike something to earn, and to forge new stories tied to them.
It's disappointing seeing old cosmetics come back for an event if you already have them, it gives long-term players zero incentive to participate.
Imagine recolours of the regional sails with the colours reversed? Those would look cool.
@blazebeard2313 I care. Am I not someone?
I've been playing since day one, and was around for the very events that we're talking about, and take pride in the fact that I completed those events. Particularly, Cursed Sails was not only difficult, but the locations of each ship battle were difficult to participate in, due to time constraints. The fact I was able to 100% is something I will always remember, and the ship set to this day is one of my favorites.
Again, I don't mind recolors/reworks of older sets so players can obtain them. I challenge you to give me one good, non-selfish reason why a player who was either not playing at the time, or didn't participate in the event/earn the rewards should be allowed free/unlimited access to those cosmetics.
@mopwieldinghedgehog 100% Agreed. I've had several sessions, where my crew would be rocking the Bonecrusher ship set, and players would be like "WOAH, that ship looks insane, where'd you get it?!"
If that's not part of my story, then I don't know what is.
@dermasterbob While that set is technically time-limited, I wouldn't personally put that set in the same category as the original big three limited sets, since this is more of a collaboration ship set.
@valor-omega I did plenty of time limited events with time limited rewards. They were eventually gave away some time later. Seasonal pass cosmetics are an example. Mayhem ship set coming back in emporium. Soulflame set in pirate legend hideout. Wicked web set as fotd rewards. Was I mad? No, because we are talking about pixels. Nothing more.
No, I agree that cosmetics from season 1 onwards should return, as Rare announced that this would happen, but before that the stance was different, there was never a clear intention to bring these cosmetics back and that reason is enough to keep them exclusive.
It is precisely because the game only has cosmetics as rewards that the way to obtain them is so important.
I agree that having only cosmetic rewards we need to have the ability to express ourselves through skins, but the way to solve this is by improving the customization system, giving more freedom to players, being able to change the side of the peg leg, eye patch, glove and hook, being able to mix some tattoos, having more slots like glasses, earrings, necklaces and other things... Bringing back old cosmetics does not solve this issue.
@valor-omega sagte in Bring Back the Old Cosmetics from Hungering Deep Release and FOTD Release!:
@dermasterbob While that set is technically time-limited, I wouldn't personally put that set in the same category as the original big three limited sets, since this is more of a collaboration ship set.
That shouldn't make a difference in my opinion.
@mopwieldinghedgehog I wish we had new versions of the region sails. Maybe a legendary version with Athena's Fortune Colors and a Flameheart version with red and gold to show people exactly what your purpose is in a region. We also need Devil's Roar region sails.
Generally, I disagree with the idea of time-limited or event-limited cosmetics being brought back, BUT! I will say, I do think that IF a compromise could be met, it would need to be made a challenge for those cosmetics to be obtained. Bone Crusher Ship Set? Sink 1,500 Skeleton Ships! Hungering One cosmetics? Kill 1,000 Megalodons! While not the perfect solution, this would allow players that want the COSMETIC to obtain them, while still keeping them rare enough to be a spectacle and not completely de-value the items and their legacies. But Scars and Tattoos need to stay exclusive. They are already rare enough, and bringing them all back would greatly de-value the entire categories, versus getting ‘that one figurehead’ or ‘that one pistol’. But even if this compromise was implemented, I would still greatly hesitate to say ‘yay’ about this rather than ‘nay’. I’ve only been around since Season 5, so I missed out on some amazing stuff, but I feel like if I could get a chance at the Bone Crusher set, I would take it - especially if it gave me a long-term goal, like sinking 1,500 Skeleton ships, or something like that. At least then I’d feel worthy of the legacy those cosmetics leave behind…
They could also, like mentioned above, simply make recolours or reskins, though I will admit those can be a hit-or-miss.@blazebeard2313 Well, that's your opinion mate.
I'm glad that Rare values people's past and stories more than caving to people who selfishly want old cosmetics, and hope they keep that stance :)
@dermasterbob I can respect that - I just personally feel like old sets like Bonecrusher/Forsaken Ashes/Wailing Barnacle are on a different level, compared to the Mayhem set.
I don't remember the exact details/requirements to get the Mayhem set, but I know at least the OG 3 sets required a great deal of work, and time to complete.
@fysics3037 year 1 event cosmetics never went to the emporium.
In regards to season cosmetics, it has been stated from the get go that:
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season specific cosmetics (usually some titles and tattoos/scars) will stay time limited whilst other more general will come back an x amount later to purchase,
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plunder pass cosmetics will always come back an x amount later for purchase in the emporium. With plunderpass you get them sooner and cheaper/practically free
Also his topic been talked about and responded to more then enough. Cosmetics from the hungering deep etc etc are not coming back in their og form, only as recolors
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-Artist time went into designing those cosmetics.
-Dev time went into implementing those cosmetics and the events surrounding them.
-Leadership spent time reviewing and approving all the steps along the way.More than anything, Time Limited Cosmetics are a waste of resources...especially when you consider how many there are.
Throw 'em in the Emporium locked behind commendations related to the events surrounding their introduction.
The stories don't change. It creates new ones.
Gatekeeping them behind this notion of your pirates story only holds the game back.
@valor-omega I just find it unfair to keep certain time limited items from the bilgerats time limited and others can just come back.
That one in particular annoyed me like:
Why are the year 1 and 2 players allowed to keep their old sets forever and me that hasnt played in year 1 & 2, gets his time limited stuff taken away.If they take away time limited bilgerat stuff from one set, then they should bring back all of them, otherwise its just a double standard and leaves a bad taste.
@dermasterbob I honestly think the Mayhem set is a weird exception, since it's a crossover livery. Agree that doesn't really make for a better answer, but aside from the anniversary stuff they've not brought back any limited cosmetics as far as I'm aware.
@sweetsandman Respectfully disagree. It's holding nothing back, and only serves to upset selfish people who weren't around at the time/didn't participate in said events. Bringing them back for people to buy/earn in some lesser way completely devalues the work put in by the people who WERE there, and who DID participate.
@valor-omega said in Bring Back the Old Cosmetics from Hungering Deep Release and FOTD Release!:
@sweetsandman Respectfully disagree. It's holding nothing back, and only serves to upset selfish people who weren't around at the time/didn't participate in said events. Bringing them back for people to buy/earn in some lesser way completely devalues the work put in by the people who WERE there, and who DID participate.
It doesn't devalue "the work". It brings recognition to it. It reminds those that weren't there that there was content that they missed out on, but still allows them to create their own unique stories and pay homage to the originals.
Bring 'em back. Don't bring 'em back. I really don't care either way. I look at it from a pure business standpoint...man...they could make some serious bank and maybe use those profits to invest in the right resources to get the game feeling good again. It's unquestionably in the worst playability state in its existence. I just want the game to feel somewhat stable again.
@sweetsandman That only benefits the new players who are clamoring for cosmetics they didn't earn, when they were available. I disagree that it does not devalue the work put in, but I also don't want to keep going back and forth on it, so we can agree to disagree there.
I too want overall playability and stability to get better. I will say it does at least feel slightly better with the most recent update, and sounds like they're really trying to push out better performance fixes as often as possible. Hoping the multi-threading work they're doing is a game changer.
