There is no excuse for not being able to pull up ladders

You made my point. There are other ways to board an enemy ship but ladders I’m saying are to easy for such a high reward. Also you get back on by A. Mermaid B. Making it so the crew of a ship can lower the ladder from the water. This is also all assuming now that it’s harder to get on they let you grapple masts. Makes grapple gun more viable in pvp.

@smuntface said in There is no excuse for not being able to pull up ladders:

If you're a runner, boarding them to drop their anchor is one of the tools to get away.

Not viable if you are playing solo or trying to escape a surprise attack (usually a non reaper.) while your partners are working on the quest.

@tesiccl said in There is no excuse for not being able to pull up ladders:

Sounds like you’re playing solo, you need a crew mate to watch those ladders for you!

I do most of the time. All the people I play with agree with me too. We all think that the game would simply be more fun if we could pull up the ladders. None of us want to watch the ladders and our enemies shouldn’t need to ether. Boarding should require insane luck like sticking a cannon shot or being super close and using an harpoon, grappling, or jumping. It should feel like swinging ropes from the mast. Real pirate stuff. Not leading a cannon out in front of a runway ship and letting them hit me so I can grab the ladder. Defending the ladder detracts from the actual canon fight and creates an even bigger gap for smaller crews that doesn’t need to be there. It is a part of the game where if I am the one doing it or having it be done too it just isn’t fun. (Notice how I said part. I obviously love this game.) but I still most of all want a way to defend myself better when I’m running commodities solo. And you can’t run commodities in safer seas so that’s out.

Bailing and repairing should not be a key part of the game it’s lame.

So you basically want to be able to shoot cannons non stop and not have to repair/bail your ship nor guard your ship.
At this point I don't think this game is for you...

These are simple things that make the games worse that can be fixed easily.

"easily fixed'' Yeah no, I don't think you've been in this game long enough to notice nothing is ''easily fixed'' lol.
It's been how long since the Shipwright update and they still can't iron out bugs/exploits from that nor the merchant, that's like the basics of bug fixing UI.

Make a ship battle meaningful. Make it about maneuvering.

It is though, that's typically the first stage of battle, moving around, until you get demasted/anchored.
Point is the games naval is arcade like, unless there's realism added to the game with accurate to life cannon shots/reload times it will remain this way where battles are done in stages which typically is :Sailing, Demasting, Boarding/Sinking.
Of course there's more in depth play to all these stages but that's the foundation of naval gameplay in this game since release... They are not going to drastically change just for you lil bro.

@Smuntface

You used to be able to stack stuff on your anchor making it time-consuming to interact with. They stopped that.

It was an exploit that people used that made it really annoying to drop anchor. Good players knew the sweet spot where it made it redundant but the vast majority didn't.

@veronik5682

So you basically want to be able to shoot cannons non stop and not have to repair/bail your ship nor guard your ship.

No I want to shoot cannons more and defend from boarding when I loose my mast or get anchor balled and they pull there ship up close. Bailing would be something that I want to have a skeleton be able to do when I run solo. Burning blade has that automation and I want it to a lesser degree on my solo sloop so maybe I can guard the ladder while skeleton keeps me alive.

At this point I don't think this game is for you...

I love this game. No game fills me with more wonder and excitement. Sorry I have a different opinion on how the game flow of the combat can be better. (I came on strong to grab attention obviously got yours.)

"easily fixed'' Yeah no, I don't think you've been in this game long enough to notice nothing is ''easily fixed'' lol.
It's been how long since the Shipwright update and they still can't iron out bugs/exploits from that nor the merchant, that's like the basics of bug fixing UI.

I played the game in beta and have the day one patch. I haven’t been on the forums much but I have been around this game for a little while now. not many games update faster than this one on the level it does. Yes there are still lots of dumb bugs and exploits and some of them getting old but I will advocate for the game here it’s got a top notch dev team. I played Minecraft before endermen that game took for ever to get new stuff and that games code isn’t even as complicated as sot. They can make you able to roll up and down ladders. Heck they made a ship breath fire. They definitely can tie a ladder update in with much more too in no time. (A couple of seasons.) Maybe in a modular ship customization update? I have played games for most of my short 26 years not all of them evolve the speed this one has. That’s for sure.

Make a ship battle meaningful. Make it about maneuvering.

It is though, that's typically the first stage of battle, moving around, until you get demasted/anchored.

My problem is with getting anchored in the first 30 seconds of the battle because I suck at fps games and just want to be able to use ship Maneuvering to extend that phase of the fight. I don’t want to need to win a 1v1 just to prolong not losing everything for another 30 seconds before I need to probably win another 1v1.

Point is the games naval is arcade like, unless there's realism added to the game with accurate to life cannon shots/reload times it will remain this way where battles are done in stages which typically is :Sailing, Demasting, Boarding/Sinking.

Not much naval right now is my problem. The arcade is fine. Notice time fine with launching out of cannons and other shenanigans. In a ship battle where both sides have played without ladders (wanted to test it with another crew.) We had so much fun. There was still boarding but it wasn’t till after a mast was taken out. Like you are saying it should be. Right now it is more of just boarding/sinking.

Of course there's more in depth play to all these stages but that's the foundation of naval gameplay in this game since release... They are not going to drastically change just for you lil bro.

There is a lot of depth to these phases! Absolutely! I just want to play the first few instead of lose the moment they board from a self cannon, ladder, anchor, spawn kill wombo combo. My ship skills should be valuable enough to make up for my lack of fps skills up to a point. I’m not saying no sword fights or 1v1s I’m just saying make it less common and I can offer plenty of solutions to the whole stuck of your own ship problem. Heck just make it so non allys can’t use your ladder. Nice and arcade like and really easy to program. Still solves what I think is bad. And again boarding still will exist a bunch (direct cannon shot, harpoon, grappling, jumping, sword jumping, heck docking a row boat lol.) this game is a masterpiece but I still am convinced this could make it better.

@pofoof said in There is no excuse for not being able to pull up ladders:

No I want to shoot cannons more and defend from boarding when I loose my mast or get anchor balled and they pull there ship up close. Bailing would be something that I want to have a skeleton be able to do when I run solo. Burning blade has that automation and I want it to a lesser degree on my solo sloop so maybe I can guard the ladder while skeleton keeps me alive.

Think you need to find some friends to play with, it would solve a lot of your issues instead of going solo.

I like how hard it is when solo, makes for a great experiance. Also satisfying when being solo and you sink a two man sloop by getting the upper hand on them.

@pofoof said

I love this game. No game fills me with more wonder and excitement. Sorry I have a different opinion on how the game flow of the combat can be better.

That is your opinion on the game being ''better'' clearly 99% of the people disagree with you here. Just because you think pulling up ladders is a good idea, we all here came up with reasons why we think it's a bad idea that outweighs yours.

(I came on strong to grab attention obviously got yours.)

Yeh, to say I don't like your idea at all, if your benchmark is getting someone to reply as some type of ''flex'' on a gaming forum for discussions, then I'm not sure what else to say..
A winning solution would be to put more thought into your surface level idea where people would agree with it. Pulling ladders up has been a suggestion since day one of the game, typically made by players that are heavily PvP avoidant...

I played the game in beta and have the day one patch. I haven’t been on the forums much but I have been around this game for a little while now. not many games update faster than this one on the level it does. Yes there are still lots of dumb bugs and exploits and some of them getting old but I will advocate for the game here it’s got a top notch dev team. I played Minecraft before endermen that game took for ever to get new stuff and that games code isn’t even as complicated as sot. They can make you able to roll up and down ladders. Heck they made a ship breath fire. They definitely can tie a ladder update in with much more too in no time. (A couple of seasons.) Maybe in a modular ship customization update? I have played games for most of my short 26 years not all of them evolve the speed this one has. That’s for sure.

I'm a day 1 player on my main too, with the eye patch. Your comparing Minecraft that was revolutionary at the time in terms of game dev. Generation massive biomes that is never ending, compare that to SoT who's last big map update was the Devils Roar.
SoT does have impressive tech such as being the first ones iirc coming up with ''Aggregating ticks''.

Also your whole Minecraft/Enderman scapegoat falls flat into the water when that was released during it's beta 1.8, you know, 3 years before they got backed by a trillion dollar company, the same one that SoT is backed by... The comparison of games is childish when it's two completely different games, you can compare SoT to say Blackwake, or Blazing Sails, or Skull & Bones, other pirate games sharing the same genre.

Heck they made a ship breath fire.

I don't see how that's impressive lol, literally been a game mechanic for decades, press 'X' to interact, good stuff there...
I bet you also got excited about this seasons megs, WOW one firebombs your ship and the other spawns ocean crawlers!
I would be impressed if the megs had actual different ways of attacking/defeating, and not just a health buff and calling it a day.

this game is a masterpiece but I still am convinced this could make it better.

Oh yeah, just like everyone else out there that have ''wonderful'' ideas on how they could make the game soo much better on paper, but falls off a cliff when logical thought is put into it with outside perspective, such as your ladder suggestion.
What if I want to double gun and go for a long board via the true and trusted method of a cannon shot to a ladder? Am I hindered because I didn't use a grapple gun, or sail my ship closer for a harpoon board? Or sail a rowboat in the open with the most obvious signal that I'm going for a board, what if I die with the rowboat, it's pretty much a one time use right now that i'ts far away on open water, or my ship is getting damaged by the time I undock the rowboat and spend a minute rowing over while it gets pelted by cannons? Could work on players that don't PvP at all, but doesn't work one bit against PvP players with their brains switched on.