Why do Tall Tales fail?

2 or 3 hours of work ruined

Which…tall tale are you doing?

Tall tale didn’t fail. Your still open world, doing a quest which can be interrupted but not forgotten. Checkpoints

Like myself. I sometimes disable voice and text chat so I never hear or see some of the toxic words. Could be the same with this kid

@spiderseb86 Did you not get a Tall Tale Checkpoint?
Once you get the crown you should be able to just start up at that point with the crown already on your ship.

@spiderseb86 Then cancel the tall tale, and reactivate it with the checkpoint. The Reason the tall tale failed was because you sunk, and weren't able to retrieve the crown before it sank.

I am going to warn you: Art of the Trickster requires you to cary a Gunpowder Keg, which can be destroyed by multiple things... so be prepared for that.

The issue with tall tales as I see it, isn't the fact that you can get attacked at any moment, this should be an intended mechanic for anything one does in the game. The issue is the lack of incentive and reward. There is no cost / reward balance to keep it moving along. You spend hours on enchasing riddles that leads to other riddles, to collect pieces of what is basically. key that opens the lock to what is basically the final riddle. But there is no treasure or reward hidden away for beating milestones, and when players attack, chances are they are either new and trigger happy, or out for some resources. Regardless, the lack of treasure, time expenditure, and overall lack of difficulty make it that much more annoying to do

@spiderseb86 said in Why do Tall Tales fail?:

I just don't get the design choice that was made here. It's horrendously punishing to the player trying to have a good time and rewards the ones who want to be d***s.

It doesn't really reward them at all.

The only item of "in-game value" they recieve is your captain's log, which if you're using a guide or not taking 4 hours to solve puzzles, should be worth 300 gold to the Reaper's Bones.

Your tall tale item has no value to them too. The only (worthwhile) Tall Tale item to sell (note: not needed for completion progress) is the Gold Hoarder's Skull from Shores of Gold. It's valued at a flat rate of 10k gold to whichever crew turns it in, but you still get gold for tall tale completion and progress.

The only other reward a crew deciding to spawncamp you during a tall tale will receive is salty tears (should you speak at them) and supplies they probably never needed in the first place.

Players aren't just romanticized pirates in this game, they can be cruel power-hungry savages with all the mental power to commit to it with practically no punishment (so long as they don't shout offensive language or spawncamp for longer than they should without the goal of sinking the boat).

No griefing took place here. Change server, continue from the checkpoint, move on. If you need help so you’re not spending 2-3 hours doing a tall tale, check out RareThief for guides.

@spiderseb86 So you shouldn't fail a level of Super Mario bros when you fail to jump on the Koopa Troopa? Splinter Cell should let you still win when you fail to save the president? If you lose the item that is essential to the voyage you will fail. The Developers added a Check Point LITERALLY right after you get the crown to let you finish it if what happened to you happens. Tall Tales weren't part of the original game, they were added, so they need to follow the rules of the game.

@foambreaker said in Why do Tall Tales fail?:

Freaking out and scuttling your ship is no ones fault but your own.

Woah woah, this is where I disagree. It is not a fault of the user to scuttle their own ship (especially to change seas) if the goal is to get away from a bad situation. If you can't break a spawncamp, several forumgoers will tell you to scuttle (and change seas as well) as that is appropriate conduct for what is essentially being softlocked in gameplay by another player.

Not everyone can break a spawncamp, some situations will dictate that you won't break the spawncamp, and unless you're spiteful enough to sit there and die to the same player(s) over and over again just to report them for spawncamping, you're much better off scuttling and doing something else. In the case of this tall tale where you literally got the last item needed to finish the entire quest, that holds absolutely no value to other players, and you (hopefully) have nothing of worthwhile value on your ship... just start from the newly obtained checkpoint.

@foambreaker said in Why do Tall Tales fail?:

@nex-stargaze Right, but in his case he just needed to save one important bit of loot...

(Edited into previous post 1 minute after you responded, apologies)

@nex-stargaze said in Why do Tall Tales fail?:

In the case of this tall tale where you literally got the last item needed to finish the entire quest, that holds absolutely no value to other players, and you (hopefully) have nothing of worthwhile value on your ship... just start from the newly obtained checkpoint.