Trying to be a friendly pirate

  • Ok, so I don't have all that much playtime, played the game for a few hours with a friend when game pass started to be a thing on PC for a month, and now that you can get 3 months for $1 i decided to get on again because the game has more to offer.

    My thing is, everyone I encounter is: 1, ready to pvp, or 2, too scared and start shooting or firing canonballs as short as I start ringing the ship bell or say something.

    So here's my question: Do people only play this game aggresively? I don't even have a problem with that, that's fun, but every person that I find is either a child (You can tell over the voice chat) that starts shooting you on land or various ships that usually gank you in between if they don't go killing eachother.

    I'm still learning to play the game and don't have any problem with anything in it, just curious if there's people that doesn't try to kill every single person they see.

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  • It’s like Racism.

    We weren’t born this way it’s a behavior we learned.

  • I try to always be friendly but I'm a pirate and I'm self serving

    I don't mess with new players I don't interrupt tall tales with chaos I don't puff out my chest just because I can.

    If you have a LOT of loot or a level 5 flag I'm going to try to take that from you

    I'm always running an emissary but I don't always want your loot because it's not worth my time to shuffle low end loot back and forth so I might touch it but I don't want it. I'll take your supplies if I need them. I'll check your barrels for fish that I need for commendations.

    Unless you attack me or act weird around me I more often than not don't want anything to do with what you're doing

    I don't check quest tables because I'd rather shovel cow manure in hundred degree heat than spend my time tucking on your ship

    I give away loot I don't feel like turning in myself.

    I don't care about your athena chests they don't serve me anymore

    I don't trust anyone out there but I don't take out anything out on someone just because I got screwed over by someone else.

    Some are as generous as me while stilling being selfish but a lot are looking to mess with you in one way or another so just keep your distance or get good at making them keep theirs

    Communicate often and clearly and with kindness or at the very least decency. If it's ever going to work out it will be because you communicate well and because you aren't unpleasant. Don't crowd people you are trying to be friendly with. Trigger fingers get itchy when people get too close

  • @henlohori

    Irl beeing friendly is a strength,
    In online PvP Games beeing friendly is a weakspot.

    Pirates yelling we are friendly flying the rainbow flag are.....

    Like @Glannigan said its learnt.
    One foul Apple in the Sack and the whole Sack gets rotten quickly.
    That is what happened in SoT.

    No Problems with PvP but when some toxic Liquor was dumped into the Sea all others over time got intoxicated too to be able to survive.

    See latest Hitbotc Video, i didnt watch it , but the way others get showed off is the real toxicity to me.
    The elitism about gaming .

    So yes everybody is agressive Like most humans all the time are taught to be agressive is good.

  • @glannigan said in Trying to be a friendly pirate:

    It’s like Racism.

    We weren’t born this way it’s a behavior we learned.

    Hah, that's disturbingly accurate.

  • Most Vets (myself) have played along enough to know...Nobody on the sea is to be trusted.

    Sure we can share a grog but second you turn your back, Stab.

    *Way I see it, if I cant "hear" you talking ingame, your an enemy to me. Silent types are most troublesome.

  • The pirate theme does imply PvP and for some players that all they're interested in, and really if we're honest doing voyages all the time does get a bit boring. So if you're someone who's interested in leveling up or getting commendations, then PvP doesn't tend to be an efficient use of your time, but there are others who's only goal is to find PvP even if the majority of their targets don't pose much of a challenge to them, but I do support their ability to do that if that's how they choose to enjoy the game.

  • I'm a friendly pirate. But yes every other player I meet is probably going to try to kill me, sink my ship or steal my quest items.

    Players who talk in game and say hello are mush less likely to be dogs, but I've also had "Don't worry we're friendly" come over the mic as they throw fire bombs and grab my chests.

  • Thanks for the replies, that's more than I needed to know. By the experiences I'm having it looks like the optimal way to confront most people is being relentless and kill them before they do it to you. Hopefully some friends hop in, that way we can balance a bit the odds in our favour. Yesterday I had a good run against two different ships but I could get away with my Sloop after like a 30 minute chase, but I'm still bad at managing everything alone.

    By the way, a bit off topic but the gunplay feels great, don't know what they did with it in the last two years but it's so satisfying when you hit someone.

  • @stundorn said in Trying to be a friendly pirate:

    @henlohori

    See latest Hitbotc Video, i didnt watch it , but the way others get showed off is the real toxicity to me.
    The elitism about gaming .

    What on earth is wrong with you?
    Someone spews hateful and homophobic slurs at someone because they were bested in a video game, and you label the person who received these insults as toxic? not the one using them?

    Ive seen the spiteful comments you have made across this forum that you have directed at your fellow pirates.
    I don't know where all this hate and anger comes from but let it go.

    EDIT. There is absolutely no excuse and no defence to ever direct homophobic slurs at other players. It does not matter what they stole, or how embarrassed you feel, grow up and be a better person. Also Rare will ban you so there's that.
    Its honestly sad people don't understand that, or that when you point that out, its somehow a personal attack.

  • @henlohori said in Trying to be a friendly pirate:

    Ok, so I don't have all that much playtime, played the game for a few hours with a friend when game pass started to be a thing on PC for a month, and now that you can get 3 months for $1 i decided to get on again because the game has more to offer.

    My thing is, everyone I encounter is: 1, ready to pvp, or 2, too scared and start shooting or firing canonballs as short as I start ringing the ship bell or say something.

    So here's my question: Do people only play this game aggresively? I don't even have a problem with that, that's fun, but every person that I find is either a child (You can tell over the voice chat) that starts shooting you on land or various ships that usually gank you in between if they don't go killing eachother.

    I'm still learning to play the game and don't have any problem with anything in it, just curious if there's people that doesn't try to kill every single person they see.

    yeah there is but they're few and far between but don't lose hope there are friendly pirates on the seas but if you are in an alliance then they might betray but it's part of the game

  • Yesterday, I needed to go to Shipwreck Bay to finish a gunpowder voyage. However, an Ashen Lord and brigantine took up residence there. As I sailed up, I used the speaking trumpet to let them know that I wasn't interested in them or their foe. I was just there for my voyage and asked them to ignore me. In exchange, they could keep what was already on my ship. Eventually they sunk, and I rescued their loot for them, but by then they had moved on and said I could keep their loot. 😁

  • @henlohori said in Trying to be a friendly pirate:

    So here's my question: Do people only play this game aggresively?

    Yea, pretty much. Approximately 110% of your encounters with other crews will be instantly hostile, no matter what you do. If you ever let other people into your crew, they will in turn be trying to get you to iniate hostility every time you see another ship. Playing on and off, I've been trying to get friendly encounters since beta. Doesn't happen.

    @glannigan said in Trying to be a friendly pirate:

    We weren’t born this way it’s a behavior we learned.

    Yeah.... no. It's true that it only takes one bad apple to ruin everyone else, but truth is the majority of the playerbase was born this way, and they turned the very small remaining portion of the playerbase into it very quickly.

  • No , it's not always like that , there are still Friendly Pirates . But yes , they will approach you rather cautiously... i always talk as i am a blabbermouth , some use their instruments to show they come in peace ...

    Yesterday evening we had a three ship Alliance going , we could have usurpt every ship we came across but ...we didn't . We went all our own ways , helping eachother if one needed assistance when fighting for example a Skeleton Fleet...

    And so we came across a moored Sloop , i jumped off the ship ,talked that i came in peace , ready to get a bullet through the carcass as this mostly happens , but to my suprize no bullet was fired ... i tried to communicate with them but they were in those Party / Discord Channels , very immersent breaking tools by the way, but i saw that one was reading a riddle . So ,i asked if i could help and this Pirate showed me the riddle , luckely i knew what he was searching and guided him to the spot . Then i guided him to the last bit and they dugged up their treasure ...

    So , if you don't shoot me at sight , then i have the chance to be helpful and Friendly and so are not all Pirates offensive at first , i would call it rather " healthy" cautiousness...

  • @wolfmanbush said in Trying to be a friendly pirate:

    I try to always be friendly but I'm a pirate and I'm self serving

    I don't mess with new players I don't interrupt tall tales with chaos I don't puff out my chest just because I can.

    If you have a LOT of loot or a level 5 flag I'm going to try to take that from you

    I'm always running an emissary but I don't always want your loot because it's not worth my time to shuffle low end loot back and forth so I might touch it but I don't want it. I'll take your supplies if I need them. I'll check your barrels for fish that I need for commendations.

    Unless you attack me or act weird around me I more often than not don't want anything to do with what you're doing

    I don't check quest tables because I'd rather shovel cow manure in hundred degree heat than spend my time tucking on your ship

    I give away loot I don't feel like turning in myself.

    I don't care about your athena chests they don't serve me anymore

    I don't trust anyone out there but I don't take out anything out on someone just because I got screwed over by someone else.

    Some are as generous as me while stilling being selfish but a lot are looking to mess with you in one way or another so just keep your distance or get good at making them keep theirs

    Communicate often and clearly and with kindness or at the very least decency. If it's ever going to work out it will be because you communicate well and because you aren't unpleasant. Don't crowd people you are trying to be friendly with. Trigger fingers get itchy when people get too close

    For me personally.
    I like to kill anything i see.
    Mainly because its fun.

    However sometimes im friendly.
    You are more likely to meet me as a friend if u can text type or talk though.

  • @scarecrow1771

    You are a therapist or what ? 😂
    Dude if you disagree that showing off others is more toxic than someone getting nuts, then that is you, sorry cant help with this.

    Welcome to my blocklist , i'm a bit annoyed how you get triggered all the time by what i post and i can tell you the way you argue in the forums is all but inclusive or empathic.

    That you get triggered by my posts shows a lot, dont you think so?
    Spare yourself an answer i wont be able to read it because i'll block you now :-)

    btw. reported for beeing offtopic and personal

  • I trust no one and usually will attack, if I notice they have no loot or are new I will occasionally patch up their ship and leave them alone. Sometimes I'll even offer to help them out if I am feeling generous. Admittingly, most times I'll tuck on their ship and make them think a phantom is on board lol.

    ~Sneaky Bois™

  • So pirates on the sea can be divided in three primary groups:

    • New and Newish
    • Grinders (aka, PL wanabees)
    • Old Pros
      The first and last group are most likely to be friendly.
      New and Newish because they haven't learned and they don't generally know what to do or expect.
      Old pros group simply because they no longer care about gold or rep and if they are in the game they usually either spending quality time or just screwing around for pure fun. Old Pros are very unlikely to attack New players, because there is no point in that, they may go after high price target run by grinders but also very likely to give all your loot back (I had seen people giving back all of the gilded voyage spoils)
      Grinders are the largest group, and one that will usually attack everything that moves and cries the loudest when things don't go as planned. Since there is no way to know what group ship is in, the only way to find out is by attempting to be friendly. My rule is (I am friendly, unless you attack me me for no reason, than all gloves are off)
  • I've actually been called "the friendliest pirate" a number of times in-game but I generally judge each encounter based on what's in it for me. If being friendly gets me more gold or gets an event achievement/goal done, then there's no reason for me to do otherwise. I'm at my most friendly when I have nothing of worth to lose.

    I don't attack other ships unless I need to, because most ships these days are new and inexperienced players, and I generally try to stay "in the shadows" (I'm usually the ship you can't find on the server). If a ship, particularly a silent one, comes straight at me though then I get ready to defend myself. Typically though, if I let a ship get that close, I am not afraid to sink.

    I've learned not to trust alliance flags or leave myself open for a betrayal. If I do happen to join an alliance, if it benefits me, then I always sail to a different outpost to sell.

  • @henlohori

    Contrary to popular belief the game can be friendly and can be a lot of the times.

    Most players you run into the game aren't PvP'ers, unless this is dependent on region because most of my servers are filled with PvEers.

    So the problem is and I think most people have forgotten this little tid bit because they just expect that things are black/white. You are either nice or mean. PvE or PvP.

    It boils down to personality most of the time. I'm not going to lie, players who roll up and go "Hey want to alliance??" in a monotone voice, I'm going to sink them because one they said my trigger word....alliance lol....2 they seem to be boring.

    I rolled up to a ship that ending up sinking to a skelly ship and the guy in the water uses the Chinese phone prank voice on me and I laugh my butt off and I hang out and talk with him.

    Lesson is that people forget that being friendly is also an aspect of socializing. If you seem boring or just really a bother then I'm not going to waste my time.

    Another aspect is how you approach ships.

    PvE'ers make up their own rules and think that is the law of the land. PvP'ers make rules for themselves to PROTECT themselves against each other.

    PvE rule for approach - they come in with cannons up but they come in REALLY close. Ship is super close and crew is able to act which is a potential threat if there is a betrayal.

    PvP rule for approach - sails up and ship way off in the distance past max cannon range to summon mermaid when swimming up to the other ship. Ship is far as hell away and person is in the water. Threat is super minimal. You get on mic and you let them know you are shooting over to give them full warning where you are at all times. You do NOT approach the other ship you swim to make contact and sit next to your mermaid. If the mermaid is close to their ship then you sit farther away. Never get close.

    PvE rules for alliance - Flag is up we should all respect that. The mentality of "why get 50% of something when I can get a 100%" - The potential gain is almost guaranteed because their ship is usually not prepped and it seems like they would just lose instantly. People swimming around with kegs freely in the water and no one paying attention. No one guarding the ship.

    PvP rules for alliance - Prepped to betray if need, Prepped to protect if need. Ship is never broadside to another ship, other crew members are not allowed onto the ship period. Anyone is in the water with a keg they are shot instantly. Someone is always on lookout. It is SHOWN that if a crew were to betray there is a chance that they will lose. "If we try to betray there is a big chance we can lose" - Percentage of loss is too high so they don't do it.

    Think of it as predators and prey. Predators respect each others territory to a degree because of the potential dangers involved, however the prey is just that, prey.

    Learn to be at the top of the food chain and you decide what happens. Be the naive prey thinking that a simple "hello I'm friendly" or believing that the alliance flag protects you, you are just asking to be robbed.

    So short version - Have a personality and make it seem fun to hang out with you and don't behave like a mentally challenged rabbit surrounded by wolves. You can be part of the pack without having to be bloodthirsty.

    Just let others know you aren't an easy target and you'll gain a lot of respect.

  • @xultanis-dragon Did someone say mentally challenged rabbit? 😅

  • @galactic-geek said in Trying to be a friendly pirate:

    @xultanis-dragon Did someone say mentally challenged rabbit? 😅

    Gots the SHARP - POIN-TY TEETH........LOOK AT THE BONES!!!!

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