Sou jogador casual, não me chama atenção jogo o pvp, entendo a proposta do jogo mas as pessoas são tóxicas só querem atrapalhar sua experiência, é só vê quanta reclamação tem sobre isso, nao adianta falar que o jogo foi feito pra ser assim, é apenas um jogo, o objetivo é entretenimento, não precisa fazer um servidor NPVP, mas poderiam fazer algo que ajudasse a pessoas a gostarem do jogo, tanto eu quanto inúmeros players pararam de jogar justamente por haver pessoas troll, as missões são longas e por causa de uma pessoa acaba com seu jogo e perdemos a vontade de jogar porque não vemos avanço, o jogo só não é sucesso justamente por causa disso tenho certeza.
Jogo a muito tempo e até agora não consegui completar a segunda lorota porque sempre tem player que entra no jogo só para matar e atrapalhar.
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@mariokirck said in PVP Free servers:
I'm a casual player, I don't care about playing pvp, I understand the purpose of the game, but people are toxic, they just want to disrupt their experience, just see how much complaint they have about it, there's no point in saying that the game was meant to be like this, it is just a game, the goal is entertainment, you don’t need to make an NPVP server, but you could do something that would help people to enjoy the game, both me and countless players stopped playing precisely because there are troll people, the missions are long and because of a person ends his game and we lose the desire to play because we see no progress, the game is just not successful precisely because of that I'm sure.
I have been playing for a long time and so far I have not been able to complete the second trick because there is always a player who enters the game just to kill and hinder.
And yet plenty of players are casual too and manage to do the tales fine, even solo. Doomsday predictions without facts or numbers aren't really effective I'd say, I for one am sure the game is more succesful than ever because it kept it's original vision and the game surely isn't about to deviate from it (according to the monthly data given after updates).
Not every session is the same, sometimes you meet people, sometimes you don't. Sometimes you meet aggressive people, sometimes friendly ones. Saying that the game is filled with nothing but trolls with no other intentions than to ruin your day is plain false and just exaggerations.
People keep focusing only on the bad and ignore the good. How many times do you see posts from people complaining about losing all their loot after 4 hours of sailing, without realising that they just admitted to have 4 hours of peace and 1 aggressive encounter that most likely spanned a few minutes (or a bit more if they were too stubborn or proud to use the tools at their disposal and scuttle if needed).
The truth is, the server's populations ebb and flow and are organic. Some day you will technically be in a PVE server if you end up with other PVE-focused players. You never know, and that's what makes it exciting.
"People are just tired of having to repeat themselves over and over."
Nobody is forcing you to repeat yourself. Nobody put a gun to your head and forced you to comment/argue/debate/dismiss/belittle these people that come here on these threads.
As far as checking out how many days a person has played, there is absolutely something wrong with that. Because:
A. The code has a mandate that we are all equal. The forums expect a form a courtesy and how would you like it if you had something to say and you were automatically dismissed based on the hours you played?B. 10 hours/10 hours/ 1000 hours it doesn't matter. I agree on some points of having a PvE server. And a lot of you that are nay-sayers have less XP in the game than I do. Haha, so your own method of determination is silly. Sorry.
Bottom line - Grow some thick skin.
If you believe Rare will never do it, then no need to argue and belittle these people. On one hand, it will never happen then there is nothing to worry about. On the other hand, this community can do far better on how it treats newcomers.@lord-szarvas said in PVP Free servers:
"Bottom line - Grow some thick skin."
"If you believe Rare will never do it, then no need to argue and belittle these people."
"On the other hand, this community can do far better on how it treats newcomers."
"Nobody put a gun to your head and forced you to comment/argue/debate/dismiss/belittle these people that come here on these threads."The amount of self-contradiction that you show is alarming, my friend. So anyone who disagrees with you has to just shrug stuff off, but no- not the poor one day spam accounts. Show some mercy, us monsters.
As far as checking out how many days a person has played, there is absolutely something wrong with that. Because:
A. The code has a mandate that we are all equal. The forums expect a form a courtesy and how would you like it if you had something to say and you were automatically dismissed based on the hours you played?If you had a serious laceration (cut), who are you gonna take medical feedback from? Your doctor of 5+ years, or your friend Steve across the street who's watched one episode of Grey's Anatomy?
By your ***-backwards logic, It's insulting to respect the doctor's opinion more than good old Steve's. Experience is a GOOD thing. So when I see another PvE post, I'm looking to see who's posted it. Is it someone who's played a fair amount of the game, and therefore has a good idea of the game's core and strengths? Or is it someone who's played two days, and now thinks that they've seen everything there is? (Spoiler alert; they haven't.)B. 10 hours/10 hours/ 1000 hours it doesn't matter. I agree on some points of having a PvE server. And a lot of you that are nay-sayers have less XP in the game than I do. Haha, so your own method of determination is silly. Sorry.
You're correct in having more experience than a majority of people here. However, you've so far done nothing but spoil that experience with exaggerations, pandering, and a nasty attitude. So excuse us all for taking your word with a grain of salt... 🧂
@lord-szarvas Let me clarify something that everyone else already has, since looking back in this topic, you seem to have your knickers in a bunch about it.
Everybody here has the right to post their ideas and feedback, unpopular or popular. Nobody has said otherwise (despite your whining about an unrelated thread discussing the necessity of a mega-thread for PvE, which you have verbally twisted and cherrypicked in order to display it as some malicious group effort of all anti-PvE posters).
However, this also means that everyone is allowed to criticize and debate those same ideas and feedback. Like you've repeatedly said; Welcome to an open forums. The new (and veteran) people who post here should understand that, by doing so, they open themselves to any criticism, justified or otherwise.
Nobody should be bullied here. That much is obvious. But you've indirectly broadened the term "bullying" to simply include "anyone who disagrees with us" and by doing so, have clouded the discussion with a victim ideology. There are moderators available at all discussions who ensure that anything taken too far is dialed back. So rather than attempting yourself to set the line that is supposedly being crossed, perhaps it would be better to trust in the staff that are present and to focus on your particular points; You seem to be fond of wandering off from them at convenient times.
@lord-szarvas said in PVP Free servers:
"People are just tired of having to repeat themselves over and over."
Nobody is forcing you to repeat yourself. Nobody put a gun to your head and forced you to comment/argue/debate/dismiss/belittle these people that come here on these threads.
As far as checking out how many days a person has played, there is absolutely something wrong with that. Because:
A. The code has a mandate that we are all equal. The forums expect a form a courtesy and how would you like it if you had something to say and you were automatically dismissed based on the hours you played?B. 10 hours/10 hours/ 1000 hours it doesn't matter. I agree on some points of having a PvE server. And a lot of you that are nay-sayers have less XP in the game than I do. Haha, so your own method of determination is silly. Sorry.
Bottom line - Grow some thick skin.
If you believe Rare will never do it, then no need to argue and belittle these people. On one hand, it will never happen then there is nothing to worry about. On the other hand, this community can do far better on how it treats newcomers.LOL grow some thick skin? I am not the one on here crying about how a video game make my life difficult and hurts my feelings.
Who do I belittle? Oh because I am against changing the basis of the game and not crazy about people who have not even really took the time to learn to play it demanding change that makes me some belittling bully? I actually am not rude to people for most part. I try to offer helpful suggestions to them, helpful suggestions that some take but that most just want to ignore and continue on complaining about PvP in a game that they bought knowing had PvP.
You tried making people repeat themselves when you complained how no one was making any points in yet another thread about this topic. All I said was people are not making points because they are tired of repeating themselves and if you want points to do a simple forum search and find them.
Sorry but no it is not wrong to look at someones history and if they do not want it public they can make it private. I and many like to know who we are talking to. ( thank you @Sweltering-Nick for showing me that trick) Fact of matter is if I see someone has zero friends, no game activities at all and gamer score lower than the box office numbers for the movie Cats then I am going to say hey, does this person even play this game or are they here just to stir the pot or is it an alt account?If I see someone hasnt played the game much I will say hey maybe they should try playing abit more before trying to change the entire point of this game. If you just want to be the blind representative of anyone who comes here complaining about PvP in a game that is advertised as having PvP in it then that is on you, not anyone else here
You haven't clarified anything.
You make an example of having +5 experience with a doctor and bla bla bla. Well, like I said, if that is your belief structure in determination, I am the surgeon here with my experience and you are a young medical student. So, like I said, I support certain aspects of a PvE server. Spoiler alert: not all of us with high XP think like you with mid-range XP.
Again, Rare set the standards for forum conduct. I don't enforce it, the moderators do. And they do a good job like how they locked the thread trying to ban all PvE server threads (which was made because anyone that touched that thread has some personal battle with new-comers talking about the game in a way they don't like). Everyone has a right to make their own feedback thread, period.
You want to talk about forum conduct, where is your voice of dissent against that? Maybe because those same names up-vote your emotional bias too?
End of discussion.
You can try to dismiss my attitude here as whining. That's fine but its not really an argument to prove that what I am saying is wrong.
"However, you've so far done nothing but spoil that experience with exaggerations, pandering, and a nasty attitude."
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Then.. hopefully... people that have a low amount of XP in the game can come here and write to their hearts content about the game (good or bad) and thats the end of it.
@lord-szarvas said in PVP Free servers:
"People are just tired of having to repeat themselves over and over."
Nobody is forcing you to repeat yourself. Nobody put a gun to your head and forced you to comment/argue/debate/dismiss/belittle these people that come here on these threads.
Right, but not sharing our perspective on the topic would give the false impression that the possibility of PvE servers has more support and very little resistance from the player-base.
Bottom line - Grow some thick skin.
Okay, that’s rich. I am beginning to think you are just pulling our legs here. Who are you talking about? Who is being thin-skinned? The posts explaining why the PVE server idea lacks wisdom is not a sign of thin-skin. It is an indication of an alternate point of view. Any additional tone coming through is exasperation over repeatedly covering the same territory for the last few years on this topic.
If you believe Rare will never do it, then no need to argue and belittle these people. On one hand, it will never happen then there is nothing to worry about. On the other hand, this community can do far better on how it treats newcomers.
This community is very open to newcomers. Several of us have even helped new players who post here by crewing up with them and teaching them how to be successful. You'll see a lot of new players post here after receiving advice thanking the community for helping them and advising them. What some in this community resent are people who come here to post how the game needs to change to suit them, ignore or reject advice on how to overcome their issues, and demonize those who explain why the proposed changes will negatively impact a game we have been enjoying for years.
@combatxkitty said in PVP Free servers:
LOL grow some thick skin? I am not the one on here crying about how a video game make my life difficult and hurts my feelings.
See, you people are very transparent. Because on one hand, what you write there is at the core of your heart. On the other hand, you make suggestions on the game to these people with a mask on.
You ought to have a little bit more care with talking to people on the internet. Some people use video games as an outlet for mental health issues. And some of those people want SoT to do that for them too.
You know, to be brief, I had this argument with Nick in another thread and the OP just flat out said that he uses the game to try and improve his mental health. And basically, had the same thing written to him per your quote there. He sounded defeated and I don't think he comes here anymore because probably he felt not welcomed. Shame.
So, I mean, its one thing to grow some thick skin and not let these threads bother you. But, some people just need an outlet to vent. Maybe it was 1 bad sail they had. That's why I ignore it. But to see what you people write.. Wow..
Ironic, you talk about bullying and saying things like how you don't 'belittle' people but look no further than the quote.
@lord-szarvas said in PVP Free servers:
@combatxkitty said in PVP Free servers:
LOL grow some thick skin? I am not the one on here crying about how a video game make my life difficult and hurts my feelings.
See, you people are very transparent. Because on one hand, what you write there is at the core of your heart. On the other hand, you make suggestions on the game to these people with a mask on.
You ought to have a little bit more care with talking to people on the internet. Some people use video games as an outlet for mental health issues. And some of those people want SoT to do that for them too.
You know, to be brief, I had this argument with Nick in another thread and the OP just flat out said that he uses the game to try and improve his mental health. And basically, had the same thing written to him per your quote there. He sounded defeated and I don't think he comes here anymore because probably he felt not welcomed. Shame.
So, I mean, its one thing to grow some thick skin and not let these threads bother you. But, some people just need an outlet to vent. Maybe it was 1 bad sail they had. That's why I ignore it. But to see what you people write.. Wow..
LOL I ought to have more care when speaking to people on the internet? You are the one that brought up "thick skin".
See there are two different groups of people. Those who are genuinely having issues with PvP, solo sloopers , people new to game ect, those people who posts I can tell they are not being entitled or whining but they just need advice. Those people I do not mind giving tips to at all and I do as many posters here know I do. Some recent posts that have been cropping lately are people who have gotten out right rude and combative with those trying to offer help, they do not want to hear about the vision of the game and all they want to do is cry and whine about how this video game makes their life difficult and hurts their feelings with over the top posts. Those are the people who need to grow thick skin here and those are the people I was talking about.
Also you need to learn a lesson in lecturing people about mental health, people who you do not know. I suffer from PTSD, OCD and a sever anxiety disorder so really do not need lessons about mental health from you.
I genuinely feel sorry for you if your suffer in anyway. I hope you can overcome that.
However, it is ironic that you write things like: "LOL grow some thick skin? I am not the one on here crying about how a video game make my life difficult and hurts my feelings."
You need to understand, that when people use video games as an outlet, it can cause them distress too.
@lord-szarvas said in PVP Free servers:
You haven't clarified anything.
Not under your twisted judgement, maybe.
You make an example of having +5 experience with a doctor and bla bla bla. Well, like I said, if that is your belief structure in determination, I am the surgeon here with my experience and you are a young medical student. So, like I said, I support certain aspects of a PvE server. Spoiler alert: not all of us with high XP think like you with mid-range XP.
Your ego shines in this paragraph.
It doesn't matter if I'm simply the medical student compared to you; Like I said, everyone is hesitant to listen to the surgeon if he spends his days rambling on that aliens exist, and everyone who believes in aliens is bullied and belittled.Again, Rare set the standards for forum conduct. I don't enforce it, the moderators do.
Nobody said you were enforcing anything. I did say, however, that you were trying to discern the line that borders criticism and bullying.
And they do a good job like how they locked the thread trying to ban all PvE server threads (which was made because anyone that touched that thread has some personal battle with new-comers talking about the game in a way they don't like).
Notice that I, and a majority of other people who agree with me, were not there? Perhaps the title and message were a little extreme; I may give you that. However, when you consider the exasperation of the people who love this game as it is, seeing brand new accounts (and it has been proven that several of your PvE friends have used sock accounts here in the past) flock here to repeat the same tired points over and over, the frustration is understandable.
Everyone has a right to make their own feedback thread, period.
And everyone has a right to criticize feedback, period. Thank you for repeating what I said to you.
You want to talk about forum conduct, where is your voice of dissent against that?
Why should I have dissent? The forum conducts work as intended and will continue to.
Maybe because those same names up-vote your emotional bias too?
I do not control who upvotes my posts, although I am grateful to those that do. If people agree with what I'm saying, they have the right to show their support. That's what the upvote button exists for.
And all this being said, reading this sentence just makes me think of where all your upvotes land. Oh, the hypocrisy.End of discussion.
Another fine ego moment. Thankfully, things don't end just because you say they do.
You can try to dismiss my attitude here as whining. That's fine but its not really an argument to prove that what I am saying is wrong.
Maybe not, but it does go to prove that you're the only one carrying any emotional bias.
"However, you've so far done nothing but spoil that experience with exaggerations, pandering, and a nasty attitude."
Good. Finally I made a breakthrough. I got under yours and the other's skin. Mission accomplished.
And my mission was accomplished by calling you out for your behavior. So I guess we're both equally satisfied.
Now, grow some more skin, and hopefully these PvE server related threads won't bother you so much.
Perhaps you should be growing some, so that you won't be bothered the next time someone has a differentiating opinion than yours.
Then.. hopefully... people that have a low amount of XP in the game can come here and write to their hearts content about the game (good or bad) and thats the end of it.
They always have been able to. And we will continue to call them out on it. Your emotional bias has not/does not/will not change that.
@lord-szarvas Well I answered that. In the post. You can cling on to that qoute all you want but its true. Let me repeat myself for you: There are many new posts on here cropping up from people, people who have very little play time on this game acting as though the PvP in this game is ruining their life. They are not the same people who have actually put play time into the game and are geniunly getting fustrated- see those are the people I want to help. Not the people who come here with a sense of entitlement who go as far as saying " I wont learn PvP because I dont want to and I shouldnt have to" then go on to whine about how they got sunk after sailing around for several hours with a ship full of loot.
And please save your pitty I dont need it thanks.
@jareto102 said in PVP Free servers:
@lord-szarvas said in PVP Free servers:
I do not control who upvotes my posts, although I am grateful to those that do. If people agree with what I'm saying, they have the right to show their support. That's what the upvote button exists forI upvoted, when can I expect my check in the mail that you promised me if I upvote all your posts? Oh opps am I not suppose to ask for that here?
@combatxkitty said in PVP Free servers:
@jareto102 said in PVP Free servers:
@lord-szarvas said in PVP Free servers:
I do not control who upvotes my posts, although I am grateful to those that do. If people agree with what I'm saying, they have the right to show their support. That's what the upvote button exists forI upvoted, when can I expect my check in the mail that you promised me if I upvote all your posts? Oh opps am I not suppose to ask for that here?
You Pro-PVP shill!
Expect your money by this weekend. 😉
"Why should I have dissent? The forum conducts work as intended and will continue to."
Then criticize the content and not the character. The general theme is:
A. They don't have the amount of XP to your liking.
B. They 'might' be a spam account - conspiracy theory
C. They are whining. (Emotional problems).These are attributes to ones character and not the content on which they are being criticized.
So when in these threads people post pictures of their Xbox profile, you went along with it. How do I know? Cause you're not calling them out, instead you actually supported that notion per your Doctor analogy.
If someone is ranting about the game in a negative way, I've never posted there like you people do. Because, it doesn't bother me. (Thick skin. It has nothing to do with ego).
Speaking of which, because you seem fixated that I used your own point of view against you. And, its not surprising, that you will ramble and find some way to discredit my point of view.
I'm showing you what you sound like. I don't like it. I think someone that has a few hours in the game can talk about what they like and don't like. What they want and don't want. But, its obviously getting out of hand with the people in your corner create ban all threads (maybe not you directly but the indirect, the ones like bloodybil who was a participant to that, to no surprise is up-voting your posts like the others.)
Maybe you're the same person? (oh look, I just pulled the same tactic and ideas put around the threads like these).
Ahoy everyone,
A reminder that as per the Forum Rules we all must remain respectful towards all other community members when posting on the forums. I have moderated your post as it was not in accordance with these rules, failure to remain respectful of all community members will result in a temporary ban from the forums.
Please read and abide by the forum rules going forward.
Thanks!
@lord-szarvas said in PVP Free servers:
"Why should I have dissent? The forum conducts work as intended and will continue to."
Then criticize the content and not the character. The general theme is:
A. They don't have the amount of XP to your liking.
B. They 'might' be a spam account - conspiracy theory
C. They are whining. (Emotional problems).These are attributes to ones character and not the content on which they are being criticized.
All we do is criticize the content. Lol. But when people refuse to listen to opposite points and just spam post the same thing over and over and over, you start to wonder about character. Their reason for doing it.
A. I've already wasted my morning trying to explain this to you. You choose to ignore it (very well). But experience in any subject is a good indicator of whether this person might know what they're talking about. The reason that your self insertion into this example doesn't work is because any experience you may have is tarnished by your actions, words, and attitude.
B. Not a theory. Been discovered that some PvE people are making sock accounts, often to circumvent bans after they let emotions run wild. A few accounts that have one day and one post? Sure, maybe just genuinely new players. But dozens upon dozens? Sorry. I'm not buying it.
C. Emotional Bias, not problems. Bias is always a bad thing. I don't know what's going on with someone IRL and I'll never pretend to, but the bias they bring here is susceptible to criticism like anything else.
So when in these threads people post pictures of their Xbox profile, you went along with it. How do I know? Cause you're not calling them out, instead you actually supported that notion per your Doctor analogy.
The information on achievements and statistics posted by people like @Sweltering-Nick is PUBLIC INFORMATION. This means that any and everyone can access it. You don't have to dig deep, or do some crazy hacker stunts to violate something private. Three button clicks and you can see someone else's game stats. Nick is not doing anything wrong, and the only thing he's violating is your feelings.
Yes, I support his ability to compare game stats with someone. Ironically you've subjected yourself to being called a hypocrite by labeling me and you as the surgeon and the medical student. By doing that, you gave in to the idea that "experience means everything", the idea that you apparently despise.If someone is ranting about the game in a negative way, I've never posted there like you people do. Because, it doesn't bother me. (Thick skin. It has nothing to do with ego).
That has nothing to do with thick skin either. Someone not liking the game doesn't affect anybody other than the team at RARE. Just because some of us step up and say "well, your reasoning for calling the game bad doesn't make sense..." doesn't mean that we're petty, or have thin skin.
If anything, your words in the last two days prove that yes, YOU are the only one here with thin skin. Projecting your own qualities onto others is not an arguing point, no matter how much you'd like it to be.Speaking of which, because you seem fixated that I used your own point of view against you. And, its not surprising, that you will ramble and find some way to discredit my point of view.
Fixated? No. I'm more amused that you didn't understand the analogy, and attempted to turn it around on me only to expose your own ignorance. It was an analogy on experience, and what you did with it caused you to submit to that ideology.
The moment you called yourself the surgeon, you (maybe unintentionally) made it about your experience. Do you not see the hypocrisy in that?I'm showing you what you sound like. I don't like it. I think someone that has a few hours in the game can talk about what they like and don't like. What they want and don't want.
They still can talk about that and always have been able to. And people have always been able to criticize it. Again, you're confusing criticism and harassment.
But, its obviously getting out of hand with the people in your corner create ban all threads (maybe not you directly but the indirect, the ones like bloodybil who was a participant to that, to no surprise is up-voting your posts like the others.)
Mm. But nobody will mention the time last year, when someone made a thread about a kickstarter, so they could raise money to make RARE add PvE? No, it's only the anti-pve people who go a little overboard sometimes. That's the narrative you want to push, at least.
And again. I don't control who upvotes me. I respect @BloodyBil and his arguments, even if I have no comment on the thread that you're referring to.
Also, it's more respectful to tag someone so they know they're being talked about. Just a courtesy.Maybe you're the same person? (oh look, I just pulled the same tactic and ideas put around the threads like these).
Neither of us are one day old accounts asking for PvE, so no. Not the same idea.
(EDIT: This thread was a real thing.) https://www.seaofthieves.com/forum/topic/91345/fundraiser-for-private-servers-pve-mode
@lord-szarvas said in PVP Free servers:
Maybe you're the same person? (oh look, I just pulled the same tactic and ideas put around the threads like these).
But that tactic does not make sense because anyone can look at @BloodyBil forum history and see he is an established member of this forum along with his xbox account which shows that it is an account that is actually played on.
What you fail to see is what puts doubt in peoples minds is when someone starts a post and then has accounts who have just signed up for this forum 40 minutes ago who have an xbox account with no signs that it is actually played on agreeing with them or starting similar post. That is when people get suspicious.
Im not saying they all are same person, Im sure some are coincidence. Im not trying to be paranoid but do not really like to sit around being gullible sap either. Its really just a matter of using common sense.
The tactic makes perfect sense because it adheres to the same theme. Conspiracy theory. Maybe the two accounts were made and this is some elaborate plan here. I dunno, that's why its a conspiracy theory.
When you're analyzing the Xbox app for 'public information', The Xbox App is extremely unreliable and it has been for some time. Sometimes it just flat out doesn't work.
So if your only source of information with whats going on is an unreliable app, I mean that proves nothing here. Its disingenuous to what you're saying.
It looks like to me that you people are so fixated on this urge to prove someone wrong. Its not even about the points you made, like I said a long time ago.
Here you go: I think some of your points are valid, too. I'm not arguing that.
Its about when you people start to get personal and create 'ban all threads' like I said. That's not a good sign in our community.
This has been going on for 2 years now. The feedback part of the forum still has creative posts pop-in which are a joy to read. The complaint ones, I tend to overlook. I don't care. And all I'm basically saying is you should too. Move on. Stop bumping these threads if you hate them so much.
And I'll leave it at that. The moderator is attentive here, which is great.
"You have been weighed, you have been measured, and you have been found wanting."
@lord-szarvas What ban all threads? I did not know of that. I think it would be helpful to maybe bring all the PvE request together in a mega thread just to clean up the forum, I do not think PvE discussions should be banned(well as long as they follow forum rules), just no need to clutter up the forum when it could be all one mega thread.
As far as you telling me not to respond, some threads I respond to because the person sounds genuine and needs help others I respond because like @Ghostpaw said it is important to speak up on threads like this to show that many in the community do not want this. I will admit I can be much more curt (depending on what time of the month it is)on threads where people describe an entire scenario that was clearly their bad decision and then use it as a reason why the entire game needs to be changed while being completely unwilling to admit they made a mistake or people who state they bought this game but refuse to learn PvP because they do not want to. I would hope the devs would not cave from their vision of the game but they might if the community does not speak up and support their (the devs) vision in threads like this.
And sometimes its not about conspiracy theories it really just comes down to using common sense. An unreliable app really is not the main source, atleast for me it is not. I honestly did not even know could look at that till other day. I mean its pretty much usually all in the post for me.
And what is this "you people", im not in cohoots with any people here. I just post how I feel.
Yes I am sure the mods are keeping a close eye on every post that pops up here.
@combatxkitty said in PVP Free servers:
@lord-szarvas What ban all threads? I did not know of that. I think it would be helpful to maybe bring all the PvE request together in a mega thread just to clean up the forum, I do not think PvE discussions should be banned(well as long as they follow forum rules), just no need to clutter up the forum when it could be all one mega thread.
Seems like a challenging notion indeed. Do we need 10 threads on the same topic (whatever the topic) within the first 2-3 pages of the forum? No. People knowingly duplicate those threads instead of partaking in a few, because they feel they give more weight to the issue they raise or feature they are begging for. Those people are simply trying to be the loudest voice and trying to amplify that voice instead of following the forum rules.
Remember the crossplay saga? Remember how about a dozen threads popped daily, and how the @Deckhands ended up leaving 2-3 of the biggest ones up and redirecting further new ones to the big threads? Yeah, nobody died. People kept arguing and talking their points, in 1-2 threads. Nobody got censored, they simply couldn't megaphone their arguments simultaneously accross 10 threads, and have the 9 other peeps do the same accross all the other threads as well, and that is precisely what seems to irk our friend, not being able to amplify their demands and making it seem like the majority wants the same thing.
Oh hey, let's all have the people in "our corner" ask for spaceships daily! Multiple threads, all worded slightly differently, insisting on how "yeah yeah we know how people feel about this but here's my take: ".
After a while we can say to anyone against the idea "Look at all the threads and people asking this! Surely this is a very wanted feature no?" What do you mean I could post in one of the other threads instead of opening post #79 about spaceships? How dare you censor me? What do you mean I should have bought a spaceship game? I like this game, I really do, I jsut want it to add what I want regardless of what it is supposed to be about, why don't you want me to have fun?"
@bloodybil Oh you are bringing back memories lol. I do remember the endless pleading for crossplay option threads, it did get out of control.
Talvez tenham me interpretado mal, não quero um servidor pve, na verdade espero que a rare de uma atenção aos players casuais que apenas queiram degustar o jogo, história, por exemplo em missões, elas são demoradas, e se você perde o item da missão devido a um player que te matou você perde todo tempo e tem que começar tudo de novo, acredito que eles poderiam ajustar alguma mecânica pra ajudar nessa parte, carregar uma chave e ser morto e voltar sem ela desmotiva o jogador e corre novos jogadores, isso faz com que o jogo não tenha sucesso e seja conhecido apenas por matança desnecessária.
@mariokirck said in PVP Free servers:
Talvez tenham me interpretado mal, não quero um servidor pve, na verdade espero que a rare de uma atenção aos players casuais que apenas queiram degustar o jogo, história, por exemplo em missões, elas são demoradas, e se você perde o item da missão devido a um player que te matou você perde todo tempo e tem que começar tudo de novo, acredito que eles poderiam ajustar alguma mecânica pra ajudar nessa parte, carregar uma chave e ser morto e voltar sem ela desmotiva o jogador e corre novos jogadores, isso faz com que o jogo não tenha sucesso e seja conhecido apenas por matança desnecessária.
Maybe they misinterpreted me, I don’t want a pve server, in fact I hope that rare attention to casual players who just want to enjoy the game, history, for example in missions, they take time, and if you miss the mission item due to a player who killed you, you lose all the time and you have to start all over again, I believe they could adjust some mechanics to help in this part, load a key and be killed and come back without it demotivates the player and runs new players, that makes the game unsuccessful and is known only for unnecessary killing.
*figured would just translate that here for people.
@mariokirck
Eu acho que, para as missões de Tall Tales, os itens que você coleta devem poder ser armazenados em seu inventário. Portanto, se você for atacado, não os perderá.@COMBATxKITTY Six hours later and not a reply, so I assume my job is done here. Nice to see things wrapped up smoothly.
It’s hard because I see good points on both sides. There is a certain satisfaction with defeating other players and it can be very enjoyable to have the battles, however, the problem with having PvP in the mix is that a lot of us don’t have time to practice or want to do specific things to get certain commendations. I have a lot of stealing commendations that are incomplete because either the ship didn’t have the goods I needed to steal or they were unwilling to help and wanted to kill us instead.
I know a lot of people hate the idea of private/PvE servers but I feel like if they increased the difficulty and spawn rate of AI enemies, they can have a server that’ll work close to PvP servers. Games like EA’s Star Wars Battlefront II incorporated a mode called Co-op where it’s 4 online players verses a whole squad of AI and it still counts towards your progress. It has worked really well. I feel like if Sea of Thieves did the same, it can be relatively balanced. I know a lot of people won’t agree with me but I’m pretty tired of losing to people who have more time to play than me and my friends do and we just simply don’t have the time to consistently practice.
