Q: What sort of player is SoT made for?

cant also stand the attitude from the most streamers....sot is an open world game with pvp encounters,the risk when u gathering your loot on voyages is the fun. but i think i never played a game thats so frustrating when you lose your loot :D...yesterday we made 2 forts of the dmaned in a row so many ships came in of all types, we sunk some it was really fun after we got sunk we came back it was a 4 ship battle at the end the brig run away and hided the key somewhere it was so frustrating :D cause even the commendation counts just when you open the door why not when you killed the cpt,we lost everything our loot and got no commendation

@nwo-azcrack sagte in Q: What sort of player is SoT made for?:

@bugaboo-bill
From the start Rare has claimed all are welcome. I truly feel they meant this. No headshots, no true stealth, and all around simple combat and ship mechanics.

I think the problem is that it takes a special kind of person to sail these seas.
We are acting as pirates, stealing and killing eachother, in a world without rules.
The lack of a safe zone and pve server mean the players here must have thick skin if they wanna stay here.

Its exactly why i preoredered this gem.

As you know i'm also around since Alpha scale Tests and i love Sea of Thieves for exactly what it is, PvPvE sandbox with ships and treasures and pirates and all that.
I like PvP in this game, because it is not about pistol +1dmg and a Jacket with +50 HP etc...

I also can do block lunge hit strafe or jump combo's i can bunnyhop all the time, Doublegun and i can dig up faster using animation breaking and whatnot.
But i dont do it, it's not fun to me, it's afaik unintended use of exploits and i'm 43 and do not seriously compete anymore, not in realife, not for sports, not in games, but i like to compete and fight others players in a relaxed and friendly manner.
Like playing Mario Tennis or Mariokart :-)
I aproach or want to aproach SoT like Mariokart. Funny battles. I dont mind loosing if i feel and see my opponents aproach it playfull like me.
Now we have a good amount of salty Seadogs trashtalking and make it an e-sports competition with the language quality of early Counter Strike Communities and such games, were "haters gonna hate" - btw someone remember forumfall in the Darkfall Vanilla days? - and they use many words to bellittle and insult someone as it is normal and the way to go, adapt or shut up you "freaking mustard" .....
Asocial speach is nowadays normal, F... you is not an insult anymore it's generous. Git gut noob, because someone lost means not we can laugh together but take that thing into personal insults, undignified treatmemt of each others and not caring anymore for the fellow player.
C'mon you say get thicker skin.
My skin is double an Elephant, i das people dying, i reanimated, i can handle a lot, insulting me has nothing do with i need to get thick skin, no no, it has to do with that, but them are jerks and some say i should not make drama out of it.
I dont, i just ask what are we having for?
The quality of speech and gaming the system aproach of LoL, CS, Dota, Pubg and Fortnite?
I maybe like games, but i honestly dont play them, because of the jerkish character of their communities.
Maybe it's time to quit SoT if this is a trend starting over to the Sea of Thieves.
With Rare supporting several streamers who exactly do this and attract hundreds of thousands followers who are celebrating beeing jerks and not play together to have fun, but play upon others to own them hard. The harder the better for the celebrating jerks beeing so cool and awesome.

I want like @Galactic-Geek Rare works ultra hard to remove these exploits and glitches finally.
If they would have put more time and work into this we never had to split the playerbase.
Arena therefore is a mess and wasted ressources imho.
The split of the playerbase is inevitable also and very much because of this gap KBM users do use exploits and do unintended combat moves and Controller players have barely any chance to counter. Yeah i know you can do most of these exploits also with a controler, some are even easier on a controler compared to a KBM setting.
Thing is who has fun to be a "sweaty tryhard" an aproach SoT like some games with communities toxic like hell?

The thing is a few of them can destroy it for many more easily.
Not PvP in general, but the whole game.

I imagine SoT splits xbox and PC, and majority of PC players is for sure more competetive and toxic.
I dont want to mess around with people abusing exploits and unintended combat moves, who tell me git gut and insult me.
I want to play a game, have a funny fight with you, dont mind you win if we all had a laughter.
I can get over it loosing loot. Honestly i need nothing, no rep, no gold, even the new Jacket is cool, but i dont crave or rush it.
I never did.
I allways was after the red Jacket you get for level 36 it was iirc or 41 Merchants?
I never grinded to get it, someday i got it and i was happy.
When you had the opportunity to get it all over time, original Bonecrusher, old Barnacle and even the title Hunter of the Shrouded Ghost everything becomes relative.
I dont crave for more.
If i need to impress someone i maybe put Founder Sails on and The Hungering One Figurehead and my day one eyepatch.
What is more impressing likea pirate who had already sailed the seas when others didnt know how to reach it?

I want SoT a game for players playing for fun, cooperate, compete, steal, betray, kill and sink each other as long as it is not a "sweaty tryhard" rage kid or adult.

Unfortunately i again feel they are attracting another type of players and i'm waiting for the next to find out how to run faster with an ammo box using drop/pick exploit using double gun with nearly "infinite" ammo etc...

Wrong direction imho.
Completely wrong direction.

But i suggest they only follow the money like most do (i dont, i wholeheartedly quit career and refused more money) and dont care where it comes from as long as it comes.

I feel like they have tried to get as broad audience range as possible when developing SoT.
They want everyone to be able to just jump in and play and have fun.

However it’s not easy to make a game which caters to everyone. In fact I would go as far as saying it’s pretty impossible.

I do feel they have done a better job than games like Ark ect for trying to open the game for everyone. But there will always be issues in developing like that.

@glannigan

You dont talk to me or?
Barely soloing, have a decent crew, won 2 out of 3 fotd fights recently and overall i'm completely fine with the game, but i just wanted to say that Rare better should fix all the animation breaking exploits and double gunning and lunge without to rest exploits.
The players they want to have is these Mariokart sort of competitors fighting for fun and not sweaty tryhards celebrating they owned you using exploits.
And if they are streamers representing the game and Rare, they should think over imho.

@k1lroyw4sh3r3 sagte in Q: What sort of player is SoT made for?:

@glannigan said in Q: What sort of player is SoT made for?:
The game changed when the double gun exploit started. That’s when the combat changes came in and they announced Arena. This is when the change happened.

This ^

i said it when they introduced Arena and several streamers became famous for using exploits, play tricks on others etc...
Tricks can be fun, we also hung on ladders unnoticed and used the ingame voice to make some creepy sounds, but we didnt lay on the roof with a small character or used doublegunning etc.
When i solo i do sneaky stuff, stealing fish, treasures, gems and RP with others sometimes and i also sink others "for no other reason" but because i can, then gift them some chests and say sorry "some explosive air from my back" (the appropriate word is censored -.-) let explode a powder keg while i was near your ship :D
they lost nothing, but their empty ship an got some worthy treasures from me.
Thats all not the Problem. The Problem is people using unintenedd combat mechanics to own others and tell us to git gut and insult others for not beeing "dedicated" tryhards.

If Rare does not finally work on this and if Rare on top splits the playerbase, i forsee no good. It's just an assumption, i can be wrong, but they will loose me for sure. Not that this is something anybody cares for :D
Rare should not try to make a game for everybody.
Noboy has ever get that done succesfully.
They shoud make a decision about it , stick to their philosophy about fun pirate gaming, social experience and such and get rid of these game destroying glitches and exploits tryhards use not to have fun with their fellow players but to own them and not really caring if they have fun.
Sure there are sour loosers who cannot handle it and take it also all way too serious, but if i'm honest if i get wrecked by pro gamer tryhards its not fun, sorry, it's just not fun and i really dont mind loosing. But they way they o it - and i cann see the difference very clearly - is not fun!!!
This just feels like i go to kick some balls or shoot hoops with friends and then comes Mr. Cool and his gang and want to teach me a lesson, bragging around how awesome they are by playing me down and tell me how bad i am.
Who want to play in real life with these sort of gamers?
Sorry i dont, but maybe i'm just too old

Rare tried to make a game where as much as possible kind of gamers could find their fun. One is casual, the other is achievement minded, another is more adventurous and wants storydriven adventures and others just like to fight...

From here all is well , but as someone above said about a Streamer " let's destroy someone's day " , that's were it has gone wrong...But where does it goes wrong ? The Game? No, because that has proven to many thousend Pirates that it is fun and that you can play , kill or allianate with others without having angry, or frustrated feelings...

Like in any other Multiplayer game , a minority with a very loud voice , with similar thinking fools destroy the Repûtation of a Game and it's Community...

Games are a great tool to determine the Gamer's mentality...After a few hours you have forgotten that you are playing for that time , you have forgotten to "act" and the real you is slowly surfacing...Some are uhm not that Friendly or fair while others are just there to have fun in a fair way...

This Game is for all people who love Piracy , a real looking Sea , who like to scalliwag , cutthroat ,plunder or just goof around...Imported additions like Streaming has opened options that can be used to do Good , like getting others to know this game or do Bad , in which like said before we are going to ruin someone's day...

This game surfaces your Personality , and without knowing your playstyle will express how you stand in the world or how you treat others...Some are Gems of Persons , believe me i met very many, but i have also met the minority that told me to shut up from the moment my throat peeped...

Blaming A Developer or it's Game is easy , everything that has been invented can be used in a Good way or a Bad way but who does handle the invention to use it for good or bad? Right , humans...

This Game is for everybody but how many embrace the full game , use their Personality to enhance their own and other one's Experience? Ah, that's not a bad question, hey ( * Please , moron ,just shut it , your nonsense stinks)

@ultmateragnarok sagte in Q: What sort of player is SoT made for?:

@bugaboo-bill
Should someone not want to deal with these players, they can always switch servers.

Fully agree, all fine - but they can also fix the combat exploits and make gaming the system unattractive or even impossible for those who think that they "need to do that" to have fun.

You can foul a player, i dont say i never fouled someone, but it's not my intention and if i'm honest i allways apreciated a good referee, good gamemechanics that prevent foulplay and punish it.