optional cross play for Adventure mode?

  • @tak225 said in optional cross play for Adventure mode?:

    @badassfro Please provide the proof as I did when people told me that arena opt out was never said to be coming

    The arena opt out is a soft one at the moment. You have to chose it on the screen select. In the end you still may run into PC players due to the Xbox only servers may not have enough players opting out at that moment and you would be placed in a regular server.

  • @inboundbomb nothing to say adventure opt out would be this way which is being suggested

  • Also would be very interested in seeing the active player numbers on sea of thieves is there any info on this

  • @tak225 said in optional cross play for Adventure mode?:

    @inboundbomb nothing to say adventure opt out would be this way which is being suggested
    Unfortunately Rare hasn’t said otherwise. They are adamant about wanting a shared world but things change. Only time will tell.

  • @tak225 Disagree all you like, request whatever you want, prepare yourself mentally for that reality regardless 👍 It's the fairest way to implement it, whatever platform you are on. That's what you call a compromise, look it up.

    Looking forward to further complaining once opt-out preference reaches adventure 🍿🧂🍿🧂🍿

  • @bloodybil I think your more hopefull this is what's really gonna happen as opposed to what should but ok

  • @Sweltering-Nick
    "Their latest reference to this topic was "We're looking into it." "
    No, the last time they mentioned adventure opt out was the July 23 dev video. What they actually said was arena first, adventure after. You are being dishonest, or you dont know what you are talking about...kinda sounds like @TAK225 's thread from the other day😄. Are you going to link to we're looking into it?

    @badassfro
    "Another well requested feature is PvE servers, however they have advised that wouldn't happen. So even tho it is GaaS, doesn't mean it will change in the way you want."
    Exactly, they have said no to pve servers, so dont expect them. However, they did say yes to adventure opt out. Looks like it will change in the way we want.

    "For instance what are you going to do when it's not hard opt-out and you still end up sailing with PC players??

    Answer: Come to the forums, and create posts to rare, asking for the ability to opt out...

    @BadassFro
    "wrong, don't know where you read that, but it was mentioned in Dev video, which I trust far more than you"

    The dev video described arena opt out as a preference. Joe then explained that this meant xbox players would be placed back into the open servers if the Xbox search failed. He never mentioned pc players joining the Xbox servers. This was clearly described in the July 23 and September 11 dev videos. Neither video mentioned pc players joining Xbox servers....perhaps you could link the dev video you believe it was said?

    @BloodyBil
    "The best you will get will be the same preference option as arena. A simple matchmaking priority that will try to match opt-outs together, and will put you in the global pool if it can't, simple as that."

    This, exactly this. That is how rare described the opt out. I would be happy with it like that. If the Xbox search fails, it is my decision to sail on open servers or try the Xbox search later. Nowhere has rare described pc players infiltrating the Xbox servers thru invites. Theres already open servers for that.

    @Vox-45
    The July 23 dev video was the most recent time that rare commented on adventure opt out. They said it would be in arena first, and adventure after. Arena opt out landed last month, so hopefully good news is not too far away...

  • @tak225 said in optional cross play for Adventure mode?:

    @pomalotacusmk3 Hopefully it does. and with my time on this forum I can clearly see that these guys are terrified of pc players and a level playing field should Xbox players leave but don't worry guys should this happen remember it's gonna be ok and take the advise you like to give out and get gud it will apply in this case as you will have players with the same input method or remaining Xbox players 👍

    You act like we won't play if opt-out is enabled, none of us have said that. You on the other hand have been very childish vocal about the fact you won't until it's implemented.

    You are clutching now, putting word in our mouth. You literally have nothing constructive to add, and this is why I believe you are trolling.

  • @tak225
    I know people are passionate on both sides of the debate, but try not to bait and troll so much. You may get threads locked and bans enforced. Disagree, call out lies, share your theories, but be as civil as you can be, even though its another crossplay thread...

  • @badassfro Its my opinion you don't share it fine but I can always count on you to disagree but I logically can see no other reason for the resistance to it a inside my head theory I guess 👍

  • @pomalotacusmk3 Fair enough perhaps that comment was in bad taste will remove

  • @badassfro please do play I certainly hope you do and enjoy doing so I have no issues with you having fun doing what you do in the mixed pool of players I hope you have as much fun as possible but the fact I want Xbox only opt out is what a good few people want I don't get your resistance to this I would never want anyone to not enjoy the game i think I will enjoy this game in a Xbox only or controller only environment that's my preference and I have been waiting for it for 10 months and was very disappointed it never arrived with the anniversary update

  • @tak225 said in optional cross play for Adventure mode?:

    @badassfro please do play I certainly hope you do and enjoy doing so I have no issues with you having fun doing what you do in the mixed pool of players I hope you have as much fun as possible but the fact I want Xbox only opt out is what a good few people want I don't get your resistance to this I would never want anyone to not enjoy the game i think I will enjoy this game in a Xbox only or controller only environment that's my preference and I have been waiting for it for 10 months and was very disappointed it never arrived with the anniversary update

    It's against my better judgment but we'll try this one more time.
    We have voiced our opinion that it is splitting the playerbase, and is a waste of development time.
    What I enjoyed about crossplay was the fact that we encounter people of varying skill levels.

    Now you have previously mentioned that if it was balanced you would agree and opt in to the mixed pool, so what/how would you balance it?

  • @badassfro I don't know I can't see a method of balancing input so my prefenece is a hard opt out I just don't see any other way or match make via input method would be my second choice but I think pc gamers may have exploits for this

  • @tak225 said in optional cross play for Adventure mode?:

    @badassfro I don't know I can't see a method of balancing input so my prefenece is a hard opt out I just don't see any other way or match make via input method would be my second choice but I think pc gamers may have exploits for this

    You have said before that you would opt in if things were balanced,

    And what about all those games where you mentioned which provide input based cross play opt-out are they not fair?

    It's sounds like you just want this to be Xbox only and you can't explain why past "it's a choice"

  • @badassfro Well would certainly try it but that's for rare to fix I don't think it's possible but if people started telling me it was I would try it out for myself for sure but as I said I don't believe this is really achievable

  • @tak225 said in optional cross play for Adventure mode?:

    @badassfro Well would certainly try it but that's for rare to fix I don't think it's possible but if people started telling me it was I would try it out for myself for sure but as I said I don't believe this is really achievable

    I don't know why you think it's not possible, it's what all the other cross play games do.

    All we have said, like you, is our first preference is to keep cross play in adventure as it's not competetive gameplay, and since that's not possible, second preferred option is for input based cross play.

    I just like my game to look good.

  • @badassfro Well Fortnite I can't comment on but my son actively avoids pc players on that game and when he does not opt out he swithces back and forth has complained about the pc advantages so I don't think thats fully balanced rocket league I don't know how mouse and keyboard can be a advantage on that I play on that and has no impact on my experience I leave it on cross play gears played in social tried it turned it off now forced to play ranked modern warfare only played one game outside of the beta and got all controllers time will tell if I find it impacts me I will opt out pubg is console only cross play so no issues and I have been taken down by PS4 players a few times Forza don't play online I don't know if there is any advantages there I only play co op on horizon with friends co op I am completely fine with cross play sea of thieves is the only one which don't give me the choice which I think is wrong when implemented I will go back and forth to see from time to time When implememted but don't know

  • Not popular on both sides, but I still think standard sensitivity would solve forced cross play.

  • @br0crastinat0r said in optional cross play for Adventure mode?:

    Not popular on both sides, but I still think standard sensitivity would solve forced cross play.

    What about hot keys? Xbox has 5 that doesn't interfere without hindering the game.( actually 3 but I'm just counting viable spots)

  • @br0crastinat0r said in optional cross play for Adventure mode?:

    Not popular on both sides, but I still think standard sensitivity would solve forced cross play.

    Yes, it would help, and what would further balance everything would be a set time to return from the ferry or mermaid for every player.. Base it on the lowest spec Xbox, Pc's. Not a popular option at all.. But it would be balanced for everyone.
    Endless black screens for everyone!!

  • @inboundbomb I’ve remapped my standard controller to be a bit more “competitive”. A controller keyboard actually helps with the minor things like shovel and what not.

    @NeedSmokes I’ve been using a standard ssd on OG Xbox about a month after release, total game changer. It’s shame on Rare for forcing the purchase of hardware when no other game requires such.

    In the end it’s sensitivity what truly widens the skill gap in games involving first person combat.

  • @br0crastinat0r said in optional cross play for Adventure mode?:

    @inboundbomb I’ve remapped my standard controller to be a bit more “competitive”. A controller keyboard actually helps with the minor things like shovel and what not.

    @NeedSmokes I’ve been using a standard ssd on OG Xbox about a month after release, total game changer. It’s shame on Rare for forcing the purchase of hardware when no other game requires such.

    In the end it’s sensitivity what truly widens the skill gap in games involving first person combat.

    Controller mapping isn't what I meant. Actual key binding to objects. A controller without any other peripherals can have 5. I want to know if the k&m is limited to the same amount or can have more.

  • The advantage PC players have over Xbox players isn't that great, and Xbox players actually have an advantage in sword play.

    The difference between Xbox and PC players is that PC players tend to take gaming more seriously, dedicate themselves more, and also spend the amount of money on their mouse and keyboard that Xbox Players would spend on an Xbox.

  • @pomalotacusmk3

    No, the last time they mentioned adventure opt out was the July 23 dev video. What they actually said was arena first, adventure after. You are being dishonest, or you dont know what you are talking about...kinda sounds like @TAK225 's thread from the other day😄. Are you going to link to we're looking into it?

    No, the most recent dev update, or the one before that, might have been one of the weekly ones, they said "As for crossplay opt out in adventure... We're looking into it. :)".

    Basically one of the october 2019 dev updates is where they mention it.

  • @sweltering-nick said in optional cross play for Adventure mode?:

    @pomalotacusmk3

    No, the last time they mentioned adventure opt out was the July 23 dev video. What they actually said was arena first, adventure after. You are being dishonest, or you dont know what you are talking about...kinda sounds like @TAK225 's thread from the other day😄. Are you going to link to we're looking into it?

    No, the most recent dev update, or the one before that, might have been one of the weekly ones, they said "As for crossplay opt out in adventure... We're looking into it. :)".

    Basically one of the october 2019 dev updates is where they mention it.

    Its really simple, if you cant specifically name a dev video, you are lying. No dev video from october mentions adventure op out. You are intentionally misinforming the community, or you have no idea what you are talking about. Just link to it. Make me look like a fool...unless you can't.

    Again, July 23 dev video. Arena first, adventure after.
    See how easy that is?

  • @pomalotacusmk3 It was a video where Joae was talking with some gray haired dude next to him. If it wasn't a dev update, it must've been a stream of some kind.

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