Its finally time to offer cross play optional adventure servers.

@jofjjay said in Its finally time to offer cross play optional adventure servers.:

@bumbumbac Yes because you are the best player on the planet and if you cant keep up with controller nobody else can.

yes I am, deal with it.

@bloodybil

I'm happy with the current arena opt out option. There is no complaints from me there.

I do think people are blaming opt out a little too much for waiting times, it could also be a couple of factors, we no longer get weekly patches to fix things, so it could just be an issue on Rare's end causing this. Or, which I think is more probable, Arena needs an update! It has grown stale, players have reached some goals they set themselves to gain the clothing or weapons, and the most likely cause of fewer people playing The Arena is many more players simple leveled up arena without even playing it because of the doubloon Fest that took place with the introduction of the reapers chest and players buying all the levels to not need to play it, it clearly happened because Rare swiftly put a stop to that.
They have the cosmetics for the ship and left that mode, if they even played it to begin with.

So I think the lack of players lies solely at Rare's doorstep and not those of us asking for equality in our gaming sessions.

@bloodybil

I think that the reason for the new matchmaking differences most players notices is likely because while yes, the opt-out preferred servers have had an influx of players (and ones of a skill level to make any good XBox player very happy), the influx was countered by the split the opt-out caused. This inevitably has resulted in some changes in how things are going. Other reasons as well have likely happened, such as the update the opt-out coming in resulting in more players, swept in because 'SoT update should be played' (a pretty good mindset, I'd say). The opt-out ignoring matchmaking system definitely does need to go both ways though, and hopefully Rare will have shown that it is not really changing much. Or perhaps it is, we will likely see. As for explaining to the complainers here on the forums, well, some might be convinced of something if they're told enough about it, and after all this some definitely will.

@NeedSmokes
I think the monthly purchase system for letters of recommendation was an idea which came up after the update, or couldn't be implemented in time before it. Given it takes 1,500 doubloons to buy your way from levels 1-50, how few doubloons Reaper's Chests give in comparison, and how many levels even participating in a single match can give you at the early stages, I doubt most bought their way all the way to the top.

@ultmateragnarok

Levels 1-20 are pretty quick to gain in any company without the need to buy levels. And there are now players with 1'000s of doubloons in the bank even after topping up all of their companies.
I think the reapers chest rewards were a mistake. Gold had already become a useless currency for players who had been here for a while, and now doubloons has followed that.

@BloodyBil

I think at the same time the opt out arrived, so did reapers chests allowing players to buy levels rather than earn. I have a few friends who have played fewer than 10 arena matches and are level 50.
So I think reapers chest has hurt the arena more than any other factor.

@needsmokes
Back on topic.. It is time for opt out to arrive in adventure 😂

@faceyourdemon

You make a mistake, I don't ever complain of being beaten by any platform.
But I can see the inequality with the naked eye between controller and M&K and it should not be present. We should all have the equal chance.
And after experiencing opt out, we have just that.

And I don't want exploiters on Xbox live. And let's be honest here. 99.9% of those (or higher) play on PC.
That is my reasons for not wanting crossplay.
Not because I get beat.

@faceyourdemon

Your too funny!

The exploiters have long gone??

How many recent links to "how to use exploits on Sea of Thieves" do you need links too??

(Unable to post to forum, as it against the rules to showcase cheaters(pc players)

It is much more a serious issue than I would ever expect you to admit as you play on PC and would hate the truth to be told about just how bad your choice of platform is for Xbox live.

We are told crossplay is the future, and we shall see about that!
If games continue to force it on console players on more and more titles, don't expect it to be a thing for long, as the Xbox community will soon all discover how bad it really is bringing in PC players into the untainted community, with your platforms constant desire for dominance through unfair play..

But if they keep adding crossplay as an optional choice then I think it can be something to be celebrated, allowing friends to play together, whilst allowing those that celebrate the sanctity of the hacking cheats free Xbox live gaming to continue to enjoy the console only joy that we have since Xbox One took over from the 360.

I have nothing positive to say about being forced into gaming with anyone on PC anymore.
Don't think I'm alone!

@needsmokes

@needsmokes said in Its finally time to offer cross play optional adventure servers.:

And I don't want exploiters on Xbox live. And let's be honest here. 99.9% of those (or higher) play on PC.
That is my reasons for not wanting crossplay.
Not because I get beat.

I would like you to send me a link to the study which linked 99.9% (or higher) of the exploiter population to play on PC. Please direct me to these servers where there are exploiters, since I am somehow unlucky and cannot find them. It seems like you hate us PC players for the platform we play on. Oh wait, you do hate us.

@needsmokes said in Its finally time to offer cross play optional adventure servers.:

@faceyourdemon

If games continue to force it on console players on more and more titles, don't expect it to be a thing for long, as the Xbox community will soon all discover how bad it really is bringing in PC players into the untainted community, with your platforms constant desire for dominance through unfair play..

But if they keep adding crossplay as an optional choice then I think it can be something to be celebrated, allowing friends to play together, whilst allowing those that celebrate the sanctity of the hacking cheats free Xbox live gaming to continue to enjoy the console only joy that we have since Xbox One took over from the 360.

I have nothing positive to say about being forced into gaming with anyone on PC anymore.
Don't think I'm alone!

I doubt xbox I is untainted but hey xbox isn't my thing so no idea. I am sure that all the people that play on xbox are angels and never do anything wrong. You aren't being forced into playing, if you don't want to play with us don't play with us. Its very easy to just not play a crossplay game. Crossplay is an optional choice. Its called don't play a crossplay game if you cant handle it. If you cant take the pain don't play the game. Anyways, I don't see a point in talking to a wall so I think I will stop after this post unless you cease with your bigotry and baseless claims.

@needsmokes

Sure, if other games with things like headshots and progression use crossplay as well, they will fail. Sea of Thieves is not like most other games, if any. It is vastly different, a new genre created just for it, and you can't just directly compare it to those other games. Or, rather, you can't do it and have it hold anything.

@jofjjay

I don't need to send you a link.
But I can tell you that for almost all Xbox players, it is almost impossible to run any kind of hack on the current Xbox one /S/X consoles.
However. It can take, and does take a matter of minutes, and anyone can do this after watching a brief tutorial to add such programs such as aimbot, where players can load into a game, sight any ship on a server from a vast distance, then go after them, it shows where treasure is, it also shows a box around the player so you can aim and shoot and never miss even if you can't see the player directly. Oh yes.. this is happening on any number of servers right now as I type!!!

Try to pretend this doesn't happen all you like. I know I have experienced this on the seas. I've seen plenty of videos of ppl doing this on the seas.
And guess what?? ALWAYS PC!!

@needsmokes

I've witnessed xbox players hacking games and I knew of one that hacked this game. Xbox players use hacks to. Not impossible. So??

Also the hacker population is less than 1% of the actual playing population. I've played the game since launch and have only ran into 3 or 4 hackers.

I've been called hacker many times though, so the moral of the story is that players cry wolf A LOT.

@xultanis-dragon

Of course you have witnessed one from Xbox hacking sea of thieves😂

Now, where do you get these figures of 1% from?

Are you just randomly pulling statistics out of thin air?

@needsmokes

From a dev update. Its where most of us get that number because it was from the dev themselves. SOOOOOOOOOO.........also unless the game is an indie game most numbers on hackers range between less than 1% to 3% of the player base.

Its the metric all games have when the devs reveal how many hackers there are.

There are players that play the game 8hours a day since launch and have ran into less hackers than the supposed xbox community have. Sorry but when it comes to hackers, its more about the player crying wolf than actual hacking.

So unless you actually believe that every player who cries hacks is right, then why are you arguing?

@xultanis-dragon

There was never a Dev update that mentioned 1%, they might've mentioned a tiny percentage of players, buy never 1%.

But nice to see you acknowledge PC players can and do cheat on this game.
Even if it was only as low as 1%, that only strengthens my belief that bringing PCs onto Xbox live is a terrible decision.
Your platform just can't be trusted to play fair. Such a shame.

@needsmokes said in Its finally time to offer cross play optional adventure servers.:

@xultanis-dragon

There was never a Dev update that mentioned 1%, they might've mentioned a tiny percentage of players, buy never 1%.

But nice to see you acknowledge PC players can and do cheat on this game.
Even if it was only as low as 1%, that only strengthens my belief that bringing PCs onto Xbox live is a terrible decision.
Your platform just can't be trusted to play fair. Such a shame.

In which of my posts do I imply that PC/Xbox players don't use hacks? I've always been clear that its less than 1% of the population.

It was in a dev update and they said less than 1%.

Apparently your stance is that all PC players are hacking and that everyone single person that cries hacks is right.

I mean at least you finally admit that you are being prejudicial against PC players and that you open hate them and want them segregated.

@xultanis-dragon

I've never been anything else.
Where the possibility of cheating exists should be wiped out, and that is what Xbox did with the current generation of consoles, but now cheating is a thing again isn't it?
And why? Because Xbox has allowed PCs onto the network.
So yes, that is why I am prejudice and very sceptical about crossplay.
Turns out my worst fears were right after all!
But with optional crossplay, those of us who wish to eliminate the possibility of encountering such a scenario wil be gone.

@needsmokes

Cheating happens on both consoles. PC players in general are often better in skill, as a good amount of them are XBox players who got very good at the game and wanted to see if getting a PC would get them better, or they are livestreamers. Players sometimes get called hackers by the hour, and reported daily, just because they are better, but not all of them are hackers. Most aren't. XBox players have hackers too, but you very, very rarely encounter players who hack at all, on either platform. Cheating has, and always will be a thing that will attempt to make its way to any platform of this size. It doesn't matter how much the creators protect against it, someone will eventually figure out how to get around it.
If you think all PC players are hacking, you're wrong, as even if 1% isn't an accurate number, it's very likely close. You won't stop your chances of encountering a hacker, though you'll lower the average skill of your encounters enough to make yourself think you solved the problem.

@ultmateragnarok

I don't suggest all PC players hack, I know they don't.

There are no cheats or exploits for this game on Xbox. NONE.
Perhaps someone will someday prove me wrong there, but I very much doubt that.

Optional crossplay is the way forward to keep console players safe from the minority that do and will cheat from PC.
It will be an optional choice for players to make to use it or not.
I see zero reasons why anyone would be against that.
In my experiences it has made The Arena feel a much more balanced game to play for me. Win or lose.
It worked.
Now it's time to take that forward and add it to Adventure.

@needsmokes

Ah, here it is. The Arena with opt-out enabled felt like a more balanced game. You have no proof, you likely will run into crews just as good playing it on XBox, though not quite as often due to the influx of players who begged for those 'OP PC hackers with inherit advantages' to be gone, and be spawn-camped all the same at some point or another. It didn't really 'work' any more or less than it would be possible to, it split the two groups, one is content because their whining finally payed off and the other is slowly dying because of how bad the matchmaking already was. That's a fairly good reason to be against it, if you ask me: Not splitting the playerbase into a large, populated set and a small, underpopulated set, and also not rewarding those who repeatedly do all they can to get around the rules they bent just for something they, from their individual point of view, think will help. You might block out the reasons to be against it, but they're very much still there. If you can't be open to them, that's your problem.

@FaceYourDemon
He's not entirely accurate in his facts, but right now no one has full access to what's changed or what's not. You don't, he doesn't, I don't, none of us do. He is right that players who have played daily since launch for hours each time have seen less hackers total than the XBox community supposedly encounters daily. Especially given that those players aren't exactly avoiding everyone they see. I don't think you could do too well without those brain cells, by the way.

@faceyourdemon

You have stated no facts at all.
Your merely making things up that you misinterpreted on a long ago Dev update.
Post the Dev update link proving this fact showing otherwise.
Waiting.....

@needsmokes said in Its finally time to offer cross play optional adventure servers.:

@faceyourdemon

You have stated no facts at all.
Your merely making things up that you misinterpreted on a long ago Dev update.
Post the Dev update link proving this fact showing otherwise.
Waiting.....

Wasn't misinterpreted.

@UltmateRagnarok

There was a dev update a while back where Rare talked about the influx of cheaters in the game and saying that they wanted to make it clear that it was actually a very small percentage of the player population, less than 1%. They wanted to make sure the player base knew that even though lots of players were crying wolf, the amount of hackers wasn't as high as everyone thought.