I knew this game was bad but 67? That's very bad for a first party studio review. This could be the end of rare. How long can M$ support a studio that outputs games like this.
On a plus note. Skull and Bones looks promising. We should find out more at E3.
Glad I got it free with game pass.
Meta Critic 67. (Wow)
@sg-riverdan Meh I dont really care for those reviews. As the reviewers have obviously not had a chance to get to the higher tiers of the game.
Now to be fair there has been some server load issues and they should be dinged for that, they are owned by a corporation that has the largest cloud infrastructure on this planet and Microsoft should have answered and added some more virtual servers from Azure quick fast (and maybe they did). But I dont really agree with the one bad review it got in that pool of 6 on metacritic.
And how long MS will support them depends on revenues generated, and I think RARESOFT has done just fine in that arena.and this game is pretty awesome, how long it maintains its community will depend on what RARE does going forth, but other then not jumping right on that game server issue I think this is one of the smoothest online only game releases I have ever seen.
They have a point. The game is pretty bare bones at the moment. MS pushed out a game that anywhere else would have been branded as Early Access, or at the very most Alpha, and made people pay full price for it. I thought the content in the Beta was just a tiny portion of the total, you know, for testing purposes. But nope, that was basically all of it.
@janusgod said in Meta Critic 67. (Wow):
They have a point. The game is pretty bare bones at the moment. MS pushed out a game that anywhere else would have been branded as Early Access, or at the very most Alpha, and made people pay full price for it.
Do we really need to start another debate over what the game's actual goal and content is supposed to be? Because RARE has made it plenty clear.
@blam320 said in Meta Critic 67. (Wow):
@janusgod said in Meta Critic 67. (Wow):
They have a point. The game is pretty bare bones at the moment. MS pushed out a game that anywhere else would have been branded as Early Access, or at the very most Alpha, and made people pay full price for it.
Do we really need to start another debate over what the game's actual goal and content is supposed to be? Because RARE has made it plenty clear.
It doesn't matter what their plan is when their pirate game launches at full price and has a grand total of two ships. It's not okay to launch without content, even if you say "Don't worry, we'll add more down the line." Creating content should be done BEFORE the game launches, not after.
@janusgod said in Meta Critic 67. (Wow):
@blam320 said in Meta Critic 67. (Wow):
@janusgod said in Meta Critic 67. (Wow):
They have a point. The game is pretty bare bones at the moment. MS pushed out a game that anywhere else would have been branded as Early Access, or at the very most Alpha, and made people pay full price for it.
Do we really need to start another debate over what the game's actual goal and content is supposed to be? Because RARE has made it plenty clear.
It doesn't matter what their plan is when their pirate game launches at full price and has a grand total of two ships. It's not okay to launch without content, even if you say "Don't worry, we'll add more down the line." Creating content should be done BEFORE the game launches, not after.
Define "content," because you clearly don't get the object of the game isn't just mindlessly grind quests.
Well I suppose everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I dont really find the game to be bare b***d myself. I have played many other games that have less features and content that I have also enjoyed. I paid full price for this game (twice. once for me and another for a friend who is down in luck on his coins) and I dont have any regrets about it. RARE was pretty clear about what was in the game from the start if you watched any of their communication. If folks wanna be angry about that, I guess that a choice they have to make. I have already logged about 20 or so great hours with the title even if you account for having to buy 2 copies, thats still only 6 bucks an hour, and I am nowhere near done. When I am finally finished I think my investment will be pennies on the hour, and that my friend is cheap entertainment.
People honestly love to complain. They want all games to be perfect. I have had very little time with the game, but the 2 hours I spent playing yesterday were a ton of fun. If you get a good group going, then it’s definitely an enjoyable experience. Have off work tomorrow, so I will definitely be spending more time playing the game, can’t wait!
Microsoft banked on increasing their gamepass subscriptions because of this game. I am willing to bet they have a significantly lower subscription number, because of SoT.
I keep my Gamepass because this game showed promise. I just cancelled my subscription. I am sure I will not be the only gamer to do so.@sg-riverdan sums it up https://www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2018/03/21/xbox-ones-sea-of-thieves-is-no-more-than-10-of-a-finished-game/#13fbd1e26beb
i love the game but he does have some valid points
@blam320 said in Meta Critic 67. (Wow):
@janusgod said in Meta Critic 67. (Wow):
@blam320 said in Meta Critic 67. (Wow):
@janusgod said in Meta Critic 67. (Wow):
They have a point. The game is pretty bare bones at the moment. MS pushed out a game that anywhere else would have been branded as Early Access, or at the very most Alpha, and made people pay full price for it.
Do we really need to start another debate over what the game's actual goal and content is supposed to be? Because RARE has made it plenty clear.
It doesn't matter what their plan is when their pirate game launches at full price and has a grand total of two ships. It's not okay to launch without content, even if you say "Don't worry, we'll add more down the line." Creating content should be done BEFORE the game launches, not after.
Define "content," because you clearly don't get the object of the game isn't just mindlessly grind quests.
There aren't any features either. There are no NPCs about, you can't whale, or play dice, or cards, or anything really besides gliding around doing fun, albeit very simplistic PvP.
What is there to do besides pvp and grinding? Visit an island and what, stand on it for a while and look at how empty it is?
@blam320 said in Meta Critic 67. (Wow):
@janusgod said in Meta Critic 67. (Wow):
@blam320 said in Meta Critic 67. (Wow):
@janusgod said in Meta Critic 67. (Wow):
They have a point. The game is pretty bare bones at the moment. MS pushed out a game that anywhere else would have been branded as Early Access, or at the very most Alpha, and made people pay full price for it.
Do we really need to start another debate over what the game's actual goal and content is supposed to be? Because RARE has made it plenty clear.
It doesn't matter what their plan is when their pirate game launches at full price and has a grand total of two ships. It's not okay to launch without content, even if you say "Don't worry, we'll add more down the line." Creating content should be done BEFORE the game launches, not after.
Define "content," because you clearly don't get the object of the game isn't just mindlessly grind quests.
Quests with unique gameplay.
Enemies with unique mechanics
Unique cosmetics
Unique weapons
Unique ships
Just for a fewSee there's b****r all content, and what is there is often just copy pasted to make it appear that there is more.
Now what usually happens at this point is that people start going on about either
A) use your imaginaaaaaation
Or
B) it's only just released/beta/alphaTo address a) you aren't talking about content, you're talking about potential fun and that's there for sure.
Nobody is complaining about that (even though it's heavily dependent upon multiplayer with bros)To b)
Great, so 90% of the game is locked behind legendary status?
Well I've been fooled by the same claims during alpha/beta. Why the hell would anyone believe that all the content is present but locked, and isn't just gonna be another recolour of the four existing cosmetics?@janusgod said in Meta Critic 67. (Wow):
@blam320 said in Meta Critic 67. (Wow):
@janusgod said in Meta Critic 67. (Wow):
@blam320 said in Meta Critic 67. (Wow):
@janusgod said in Meta Critic 67. (Wow):
They have a point. The game is pretty bare bones at the moment. MS pushed out a game that anywhere else would have been branded as Early Access, or at the very most Alpha, and made people pay full price for it.
Do we really need to start another debate over what the game's actual goal and content is supposed to be? Because RARE has made it plenty clear.
It doesn't matter what their plan is when their pirate game launches at full price and has a grand total of two ships. It's not okay to launch without content, even if you say "Don't worry, we'll add more down the line." Creating content should be done BEFORE the game launches, not after.
Define "content," because you clearly don't get the object of the game isn't just mindlessly grind quests.
There aren't any features either. There are no NPCs about, you can't whale, or play dice, or cards, or anything really besides gliding around doing fun, albeit very simplistic PvP.
What is there to do besides pvp and grinding? Visit an island and what, stand on it for a while and look at how empty it is?
Define "NPCs about."
If you're suggesting Whaling get out and don't come back.
I know Dice and Cards have been requested, and they might be added further down the line.
Besides basic PvP and Grinding? You have no imagination. Explore around! You might find a message in a bottle, or a chest randomly lying around. Grab a few gunpowder barrels and kamikaze into another ship. Find someone to have a race with! Try befriending another crew and share a drink and a shanty.
@sg-riverdan Why on earth would you think that? They had almost a million new subscribers to that service because of this game, lets say just 10% or hell even 5% keep those subscriptions to play some of the other titles offered.....that is 1 mil a month if 10% keep and half a mil a month for 5%.
I think Microsoft knows exactly what they are doing. they have always made great coin from xbox live and their other subscription offering, thats kind of the model of the new Microsoft under Nadella-services instead of static stuff, and its been working pretty well for them.
But I could be wrong, millions of people may in fact log into this site or Metacritic or whatever and cancel that gamepass because they read your post or some other bad review. Or you could be absolutely delusional.
Only time will reveal the horrid truth.@blam320 said in Meta Critic 67. (Wow):
@janusgod said in Meta Critic 67. (Wow):
@blam320 said in Meta Critic 67. (Wow):
@janusgod said in Meta Critic 67. (Wow):
@blam320 said in Meta Critic 67. (Wow):
@janusgod said in Meta Critic 67. (Wow):
They have a point. The game is pretty bare bones at the moment. MS pushed out a game that anywhere else would have been branded as Early Access, or at the very most Alpha, and made people pay full price for it.
Do we really need to start another debate over what the game's actual goal and content is supposed to be? Because RARE has made it plenty clear.
It doesn't matter what their plan is when their pirate game launches at full price and has a grand total of two ships. It's not okay to launch without content, even if you say "Don't worry, we'll add more down the line." Creating content should be done BEFORE the game launches, not after.
Define "content," because you clearly don't get the object of the game isn't just mindlessly grind quests.
There aren't any features either. There are no NPCs about, you can't whale, or play dice, or cards, or anything really besides gliding around doing fun, albeit very simplistic PvP.
What is there to do besides pvp and grinding? Visit an island and what, stand on it for a while and look at how empty it is?
Define "NPCs about."
If you're suggesting Whaling get out and don't come back.
I know Dice and Cards have been requested, and they might be added further down the line.
Besides basic PvP and Grinding? You have no imagination. Explore around! You might find a message in a bottle, or a chest randomly lying around. Grab a few gunpowder barrels and kamikaze into another ship. Find someone to have a race with! Try befriending another crew and share a drink and a shanty.
And there we go!
The predictable "imaaaaagiiinaaaation!!" defense.
Hey, since you're so good at imagining stuff.. Imagine I just sold you a great pirate game. Just imagine all the fun you're having! With your imagination and imaginary friends!
Now give me 60usd please.@mcdoll said in Meta Critic 67. (Wow):
@blam320 said in Meta Critic 67. (Wow):
@janusgod said in Meta Critic 67. (Wow):
@blam320 said in Meta Critic 67. (Wow):
@janusgod said in Meta Critic 67. (Wow):
@blam320 said in Meta Critic 67. (Wow):
@janusgod said in Meta Critic 67. (Wow):
They have a point. The game is pretty bare bones at the moment. MS pushed out a game that anywhere else would have been branded as Early Access, or at the very most Alpha, and made people pay full price for it.
Do we really need to start another debate over what the game's actual goal and content is supposed to be? Because RARE has made it plenty clear.
It doesn't matter what their plan is when their pirate game launches at full price and has a grand total of two ships. It's not okay to launch without content, even if you say "Don't worry, we'll add more down the line." Creating content should be done BEFORE the game launches, not after.
Define "content," because you clearly don't get the object of the game isn't just mindlessly grind quests.
There aren't any features either. There are no NPCs about, you can't whale, or play dice, or cards, or anything really besides gliding around doing fun, albeit very simplistic PvP.
What is there to do besides pvp and grinding? Visit an island and what, stand on it for a while and look at how empty it is?
Define "NPCs about."
If you're suggesting Whaling get out and don't come back.
I know Dice and Cards have been requested, and they might be added further down the line.
Besides basic PvP and Grinding? You have no imagination. Explore around! You might find a message in a bottle, or a chest randomly lying around. Grab a few gunpowder barrels and kamikaze into another ship. Find someone to have a race with! Try befriending another crew and share a drink and a shanty.
And there we go!
The predictable "imaaaaagiiinaaaation!!" defense.
Hey, since you're so good at imagining stuff.. Imagine I just sold you a great pirate game. Just imagine all the fun you're having! With your imagination and imaginary friends!
Now give me 60usd please.I'm certainly imagining all the fun I'm going to have in Sea of Thieves when I purchase it!
I had a great time with my friends when I played in the Final Beta; two of them were literally laughing their rears off the entire voyage as we dodged trigger-happy galleons and dug up buried treasure, while drinking and serenading whoever was at the helm.
I almost feel sorry for you, unable to make your own fun.
Obviously the game needs more content, but I'm enjoying it.
Being that I'm a big pirate fan - this fills the hole left by "Black Flag".
I do wish they had chosen to set this in the Caribbean as opposed to some mythical location, but that's not the end of the world for me.
Skull-and-Bones looks nice, but it's essentially an arena combat game. Even with my love of piracy, that has extremely limited appeal to me.
@sg-riverdan I feel this is why there are so many server issues. Rare knew what kind of numbers to have their servers ready for. There was no telling how many people would use their free pass to play this game, just so happens Microsoft gave a free pass to basically everyone.
@blam320 said in Meta Critic 67. (Wow):
@mcdoll said in Meta Critic 67. (Wow):
@blam320 said in Meta Critic 67. (Wow):
@janusgod said in Meta Critic 67. (Wow):
@blam320 said in Meta Critic 67. (Wow):
@janusgod said in Meta Critic 67. (Wow):
@blam320 said in Meta Critic 67. (Wow):
@janusgod said in Meta Critic 67. (Wow):
They have a point. The game is pretty bare bones at the moment. MS pushed out a game that anywhere else would have been branded as Early Access, or at the very most Alpha, and made people pay full price for it.
Do we really need to start another debate over what the game's actual goal and content is supposed to be? Because RARE has made it plenty clear.
It doesn't matter what their plan is when their pirate game launches at full price and has a grand total of two ships. It's not okay to launch without content, even if you say "Don't worry, we'll add more down the line." Creating content should be done BEFORE the game launches, not after.
Define "content," because you clearly don't get the object of the game isn't just mindlessly grind quests.
There aren't any features either. There are no NPCs about, you can't whale, or play dice, or cards, or anything really besides gliding around doing fun, albeit very simplistic PvP.
What is there to do besides pvp and grinding? Visit an island and what, stand on it for a while and look at how empty it is?
Define "NPCs about."
If you're suggesting Whaling get out and don't come back.
I know Dice and Cards have been requested, and they might be added further down the line.
Besides basic PvP and Grinding? You have no imagination. Explore around! You might find a message in a bottle, or a chest randomly lying around. Grab a few gunpowder barrels and kamikaze into another ship. Find someone to have a race with! Try befriending another crew and share a drink and a shanty.
And there we go!
The predictable "imaaaaagiiinaaaation!!" defense.
Hey, since you're so good at imagining stuff.. Imagine I just sold you a great pirate game. Just imagine all the fun you're having! With your imagination and imaginary friends!
Now give me 60usd please.I'm certainly imagining all the fun I'm going to have in Sea of Thieves when I purchase it!
I had a great time with my friends when I played in the Final Beta; two of them were literally laughing their rears off the entire voyage as we dodged trigger-happy galleons and dug up buried treasure, while drinking and serenading whoever was at the helm.
I almost feel sorry for you, unable to make your own fun.
Can you also please imagine that you know how to read properly?
I never said the game wasn't funAny game is fun if you just dickaround with mates.
But it is content that is missing.
Not fun, CONTENTIf the game requires you to invent stuff to do within it, then it isn't a game, it's a framework or a ruleset.
Why even have quests?
Why not just imagine you're doing them?@mcdoll said in Meta Critic 67. (Wow):
@blam320 said in Meta Critic 67. (Wow):
@janusgod said in Meta Critic 67. (Wow):
@blam320 said in Meta Critic 67. (Wow):
@janusgod said in Meta Critic 67. (Wow):
@blam320 said in Meta Critic 67. (Wow):
@janusgod said in Meta Critic 67. (Wow):
They have a point. The game is pretty bare bones at the moment. MS pushed out a game that anywhere else would have been branded as Early Access, or at the very most Alpha, and made people pay full price for it.
Do we really need to start another debate over what the game's actual goal and content is supposed to be? Because RARE has made it plenty clear.
It doesn't matter what their plan is when their pirate game launches at full price and has a grand total of two ships. It's not okay to launch without content, even if you say "Don't worry, we'll add more down the line." Creating content should be done BEFORE the game launches, not after.
Define "content," because you clearly don't get the object of the game isn't just mindlessly grind quests.
There aren't any features either. There are no NPCs about, you can't whale, or play dice, or cards, or anything really besides gliding around doing fun, albeit very simplistic PvP.
What is there to do besides pvp and grinding? Visit an island and what, stand on it for a while and look at how empty it is?
Define "NPCs about."
If you're suggesting Whaling get out and don't come back.
I know Dice and Cards have been requested, and they might be added further down the line.
Besides basic PvP and Grinding? You have no imagination. Explore around! You might find a message in a bottle, or a chest randomly lying around. Grab a few gunpowder barrels and kamikaze into another ship. Find someone to have a race with! Try befriending another crew and share a drink and a shanty.
And there we go!
The predictable "imaaaaagiiinaaaation!!" defense.
Hey, since you're so good at imagining stuff.. Imagine I just sold you a great pirate game. Just imagine all the fun you're having! With your imagination and imaginary friends!
Now give me 60usd please.You do realize that the other players are real, and there are actual game mechanics for doing all kinds of things. You dont have to imagine anything you can just go do it within the game. But whatevs, just continue on moving the goalposts, maybe no one will notice.
@janusgod said in Meta Critic 67. (Wow):
They have a point. The game is pretty bare bones at the moment. MS pushed out a game that anywhere else would have been branded as Early Access, or at the very most Alpha, and made people pay full price for it. I thought the content in the Beta was just a tiny portion of the total, you know, for testing purposes. But nope, that was basically all of it.
^ This...no progression, nothing to works towards except cosmetics, pretty bleak at the moment
@mcdoll said in Meta Critic 67. (Wow):
@blam320 said in Meta Critic 67. (Wow):
@mcdoll said in Meta Critic 67. (Wow):
@blam320 said in Meta Critic 67. (Wow):
@janusgod said in Meta Critic 67. (Wow):
@blam320 said in Meta Critic 67. (Wow):
@janusgod said in Meta Critic 67. (Wow):
@blam320 said in Meta Critic 67. (Wow):
@janusgod said in Meta Critic 67. (Wow):
They have a point. The game is pretty bare bones at the moment. MS pushed out a game that anywhere else would have been branded as Early Access, or at the very most Alpha, and made people pay full price for it.
Do we really need to start another debate over what the game's actual goal and content is supposed to be? Because RARE has made it plenty clear.
It doesn't matter what their plan is when their pirate game launches at full price and has a grand total of two ships. It's not okay to launch without content, even if you say "Don't worry, we'll add more down the line." Creating content should be done BEFORE the game launches, not after.
Define "content," because you clearly don't get the object of the game isn't just mindlessly grind quests.
There aren't any features either. There are no NPCs about, you can't whale, or play dice, or cards, or anything really besides gliding around doing fun, albeit very simplistic PvP.
What is there to do besides pvp and grinding? Visit an island and what, stand on it for a while and look at how empty it is?
Define "NPCs about."
If you're suggesting Whaling get out and don't come back.
I know Dice and Cards have been requested, and they might be added further down the line.
Besides basic PvP and Grinding? You have no imagination. Explore around! You might find a message in a bottle, or a chest randomly lying around. Grab a few gunpowder barrels and kamikaze into another ship. Find someone to have a race with! Try befriending another crew and share a drink and a shanty.
And there we go!
The predictable "imaaaaagiiinaaaation!!" defense.
Hey, since you're so good at imagining stuff.. Imagine I just sold you a great pirate game. Just imagine all the fun you're having! With your imagination and imaginary friends!
Now give me 60usd please.I'm certainly imagining all the fun I'm going to have in Sea of Thieves when I purchase it!
I had a great time with my friends when I played in the Final Beta; two of them were literally laughing their rears off the entire voyage as we dodged trigger-happy galleons and dug up buried treasure, while drinking and serenading whoever was at the helm.
I almost feel sorry for you, unable to make your own fun.
Can you also please imagine that you know how to read properly?
I never said the game wasn't funAny game is fun if you just dickaround with mates.
But it is content that is missing.
Not fun, CONTENTIf the game requires you to invent stuff to do within it, then it isn't a game, it's a framework or a ruleset.
Why even have quests?
Why not just imagine you're doing them?That's just it!
It's a framework that you build off of yourself. RARE gave us the tools, and it's up to us to use them however we want. You don't even need to do the quests; you can just run around the world exploring and picking up random chests if you want to. Or you can be straight PvP-only and hunt down other pirates for the thrill of it.
If all you see is a few quests, of course it's going to get repetitive and feel lacking, since that's all you're focusing on. You're not trying to make it fun as you go.
If you seriously can't have fun yourself without the game holding your hand the entire way, clearly you spent too much of your childhood free time in front of whatever gaming platform you use.
@janusgod you have a very limited imagination.
Me and this crew of people I had never met before just finished doing a skeleton fort and were all in good spirits after cashing it all in, then we saw this random Scooner and started chasing it in our galleon.
I had the blue lantern equipped which gave me a hilarious idea. I went to the front of the ship and kept toggling my own lantern and one of the ship's lanterns in an alternating pattern to simulate police lights, and when we got close enough we went "WEE WOO WEE WOO WEE WOO THIS IS THE POLICE! PULL OVER AND STOP YOUR VESSEL NOW!!" and when we finally got him to stop, we went over to him and said it was dangerous to sail without his lights on, so we were giving him a ticket, which he proceeded to pay us with a castaway chest. We were all laughing pretty hard, both crews, at the whole thing because of how ridiculous it all was.
You've forgotten how to make your own fun. You've forgotten the satisfaction of discovering things without the game straight up telling you directly. And that's a damn shame.
Although I think it’s very much deserving of of a low review score. I do think the reviews should revisit the game a year down the line. Fingers crossed we’re still going strong.
For what it’s worth, my experience on SoT’s last night was a 10/10 game. But not everyone will have the same experience and I may never again tbh. Potentially a great game with a lack of fun and variety.
@janusgod Yeah microsoft made you pay full price for the game. Sucks when they log into my live account and purchase a game for me without my permission.
5 out of 144
