Chest of Fortune, Your way, Whenever you want! (Add it to all world events. It's a MUST)

  • Magus104
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    I know it's an unpopular opinion but honestly for the health of the game it makes sense to finally add CoF to all world events. FoF and BB take a bit more effort to acquire but these new reaper fortresses have broken then whole "I got it when it was hard" concept for people who grinded out 1 chest at a time. I was working on the commendation for CoF working my way to grade V as that seemed reasonable. Grave V is always the max for commendations so surely they wont add more.... Yet here we are. Anyway glad I didn't painfully grind out so many before I've already gotten about 50 since this event went live.

    Now I'm not saying we should keep 3 on every world event. But the method you have been doing with 30 new ones to acquire each season only from ONE place is crazy. There are so many world events and most of them aren't worth doing and they also aren't even worth doing sneaks and steals on. Having every world event be a chest of fortune means every event now has value, every event is worth going to try and steal. For the health of the game making all world events equal just allows the players to play how they want. Go grind the thing you find more enjoyable, add some variety to the mix instead of tediously grinding FoF or FoTD.

    Also I would say having an event like this more often would be nice. Maybe not for as long because a whole month is crazy to knock out so many commendations making it feel almost mandatory to put in as much time as possible to play catchup on what you missed. I always skipped the athena mega stash events because "A chance of a mega stash" I am used to other developers cough Blizzard cough saying "a chance" meaning like maybe 10% if you're lucky. But with your mega stashes it seems more like a 90% chance I've only seen maybe 4 vaults that were NOT (oops) mega.

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  • PotatoSord
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    Mega stashes should be a part of the base game, with like a 1% chance of happening on any world event loot pile.

  • KianOnBoard
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    @magus104 If every world event had a COF, the chest would lose it's value practically instantly. The chest wouldn't be worth it.

  • PotatoSord
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    @kianonboard Every world event should have a 1% chance to have a "mega stash" version which would have a CoF.

  • PC MonkFish
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    We will see what happens when it hits 300.

    Ideally I would like to see a new chest added to the game - 'new-CoF' which takes on the current CoF mechanic - and the current CoF could be widened out and integrated in new ways to the majority in all probability playerbase who don't actively compete currently.

    • An on demand voyage similar to the Chest Of Legends hunt.

    • Every world event has the RNG to drop a Lost Shipment style quest to a 3 CoF shipwreck. Reasonably high probability 25% say.

  • BurnBacon
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    Why is the Chest of fortune…popular? It just Athena popular until the next big chest/item.

    What they should do. Randomly add it to events. You don’t know which, but maybe small hints.

    Fleet: galleon ships Captains are called “Fortune”
    Ghost fleet: Captain wave has Fortune sails
    Fort: shadow skeletons that require certain flames.
    Examples but meh.

    Rather it be a mystery. It so much mote fun

  • Super87Ghost
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    @kianonboard said in Chest of Fortune, Your way, Whenever you want! (Add it to all world events. It's a MUST):

    @magus104 If every world event had a COF, the chest would lose it's value practically instantly. The chest wouldn't be worth it.

    I would say the CoF has lost lots of it's value because it is so limited. Many people are turned away from it, because every season they need to collect more (30) then they are able to, so they just won't go after it anymore. There are lots of people who want to 'hunt' commendations, but just don't have the time for 30! succesfull FoF's in a season. Not everyone is a hardcore player who plays it hours a day. Most only have a couple of hours in the whole week to play (mostly on weekends). So because they already know they can't get that commendation, they stop chasing it and just focus on others.

    The whole problem of the CoF is that it's to rare for the average player to be able to complete those 30 in a season. And because they are turned away from it, the 'hunters' (PvP oriented players) will get turned away from it, because you can't hunt a pray that isn't there...

  • HiradC
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    Devs want player interaction, they encourage encounters. Having focused unique ways of getting needed loot is one of their methods of doing this.

    I get everyone is in a rush to finish commendations etc, but would you really take pride in looking back on all those random world events you solo'd with zero contest?

    I personally prefer having the stand out memories with duo of the times we've really had to fight for them and earn the loot. They feel way more valuable to me.

    There are some balances needed but they've already been confirmed in the work. Had to sink a gally twice and sloop 3 times for my last megastash. They need to spawn further away as a minimum each time

  • Lem0n Curry
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    The purpose of the CoF was to direct people to a certain World Event, having it "everywhere" would defeat that purpose.

    The target of 30 each Season is way too high though as it will only be reached for people who play a lot or those who play, say, 2 times a week and only did the World Event, forsaking other things to do in SoT. If they add a replacement, I hope they'll lower the number per Season.

    Even if they use another chest (or skull or whatever) for this purpose they should not just scatter the CoF around; newer people (or people who didn't bother with CoF World Events on Adventure) can do their 30 or so per Season, no need to "give" them these commendations to be done in a much shorter time.
    I hope they also learned that decreasing efforts too much isn't the way to go either.

  • SkelCurseIRL
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    @magus104
    This would tank it's stock. Just like the Chest of Legends bein' available in 6 different ways. CoL used to be the "it" item to turn in or to steal, it even has a title around it for stealin', was so rare and valueable. Now people don't even care about it. This would happen again to the CoF and there would be no feel of victory from gettin' one or stealin' one and ultimately leave the sea feelin' less rewardin' and be bad for game health.

  • Fry9889
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    I've kept on top of my CoFs. I have the full 270 now. But it is getting a little tedious doing so many FoFs each season. I kinda liked it when it moved about. Fleet of fortune was great.

    I'd be in favour of it being guaranteed in the FoF and a random chance at any other wold event. Use the mega stash tech. Say something like 20% for natural and 10% for raid world events.

    Another idea would be to have a "skull of fortune" or "crate of fortune". Why should only gold hoarders have a high tier item. Spread them around the world events but have them all count to the fortunes favour com.

  • Magus104
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    @fry9889 Yea I just think the game needs more variety. I couldn't stomach getting 1 at a time. I did the 30 during Fort of the Damned that 1st year of its introduction because it allowed me to get some reaper chests done. I just kept holding out hoping they would make a more enjoyable way of obtaining them. Having to do 30 of the same event every season is grueling. That being said this events not much different though the forts are easier but 30 forts would net you 90 chests that's just efficiency. Glad I waited. Now the question is will they make a good way to get reaper chests other than the 2 at a time from FoTD or will they allow the new voyage version count? Really wish I noted the number when I started. I know I hadn't hit grade 5 yet I want to say I was about 143 or 146 when this update launched. I am at 242 now. Will get the rest this weekend. The worst part of this whole season has just been skeleton ship frequency. Considering smugglers loot despite it's guild value isn't worth doing. I joined a max guild to do my commendations/achievements so my own person guild levels are kind of whatever. Once it goes back to 1 chest per event though, I will wait till next holloween and hope that either the put it back in FoTD so I can get some reaper chests done too or if they do the mega stashes on the new forts again.

    Either way I still think have every world event guarantee a CoF would just be best for game health. Locking people into 1 task which is also subject to RNG of the world event rotation kinda felt bad and a huge part of why I avoided it. FoTD was on demand so that felt a little better but still tedious at 1 chest at a time. It's been 9 seasons now since the introduction of the chest of fortune. It's time for change I think.

    @skelcurseirl Need to keep in mind how much a revolving door the player base of this game is. Hopefully rank 10 is the final tier of CoF. But 300 is a lot for a new player to have to obtain 1 at a time. Chest of Legends lost its value because there's no point to being pirate legend anymore. Other than obtaining the curse hourglass is best leveling for both Reapers and Athena but the Athena hourglass rewards other than the curse itself are awful. At least the skeleton curse has unique cosmetics. I am in no rush to max out my Athena reputation because Rare has a long history of not adding new rewards locked behind new commendations to grind. So why rush it now when I will be forced back onto the hamster wheel eventually anyway? As I stated and proven by my long grind of these 100 chests of Fortune in the past 2 weeks. This event itself has already ruined the uniqueness of the chest. Making it so all other world events are literally worthless. Like why would anyone do ashen winds? All the commendations from that can be acquire in the Fort of Fortune as well as Athena loot and a CoF (usually).

    Right now the only event worth completing is the one with the chest of fortune and that's not just silly but straight up bad game design. You want your whole game to have content worth doing. I mean if we are going to keep it to 1 chest at a time then disable all other world events cause no ones doing them. Only have the CoF event spawning.

  • Jon Sea Nah
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    @super87ghost it’s made that way to encourage player interaction. Even then most FOF’s were going unchallenged until the new reaper took off it was free COFs

    If you put it in everything it loses its value immediately.

    WHEN they add new loot it will be rarer and probably have commendations tied to it, should that one be put in everything?

    Perfect example of this is Orb of secrets….. it’s 20k base, same as the COF, you can get it in about 5 min, no one does….. why? Get 30 and you never have to again. The COF should be rare and contested

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