[Satire] All the different types of servers we need

  • Murkrage
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    Ahoy,

    With the upcoming keyboard and mouse support for Xbox (no confirmed date for Sea of Thieves yet), I started thinking about all the discussion we've had about crossplay. I've always been a fan of crossplay, even though I understand the disadvantage a controller has versus a mouse. There's lots of pirates out there that have become very good with their controller, some even a lot better than I am on mouse and keyboard.

    Then I started thinking about some of the other discussion that we've had and how it might impact the players if they were to be pushed as an update. Crossplay, kb/m vs controller, pvp vs pve. What if everything was separated, like many of the posts here are trying to accomplish. What would that look like? Well... here's a list:

    PC

    • PvP with mouse and keyboard
    • PvP with controller
    • PvE with mouse and keyboard
    • PvE with controller
    • PvEvP with mouse and keyboard
    • PvEvP with controller

    Xbox

    • PvP with mouse and keyboard
    • PvP with controller
    • PvE with mouse and keyboard
    • PvE with controller
    • PvEvP with mouse and keyboard
    • PvEvP with controller

    Crossplay

    • PvP
    • PvE
    • PvEvP

    If the abundance of topics here is to be followed to the letter, we would have at least 15 different types of servers on the Sea of Thieves.

    Great, Murk, so what's your point?
    Honestly? I think we, as a community, need to stop and think for a moment about what this game is, could be and, more importantly, shouldn't be. Should we stop discussing the problems crossplay brings? No, absolutely not but that doesn't mean the answer to the problem is as straight forward as getting rid of crossplay or separating PvP from PvE.

    The charm of this game is that it's a dangerous adventure you take each time you set sail. There's monsters and natural disasters out there and, even worse, other pirates. There are so many fun game mechanics that could be used to enable you to sail by your own in silence across the seas.

    When The Hungering Deep was released something really cool happened the first few days: Pirates stopped attacking eachother. Of course it all went to Davy Jones' locker when people got what they needed and started camping the spawn site of Megan, but that's an entirely different topic. It worked for a short while and there's ways to make it work again without taking away what is, arguably, part of the charm of this game.

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  • AWW HEALZ NO
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    Will would cause too much lag and the servers would be dead because their wouldnt be any people in each server to meet the criteria. And you must understand that it is a pirate game and not a grinding game. So having PvE servers would defeat the whole purpose of the game.

  • Minhoca SoT
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    Also we need...

    • XBOX One
    • XBOX One S
    • XBOX One X
    • PCs with low end graphic specs
    • PCs with mid end graphic specs
    • PCs with high end graphic specs
    • Slower internet
    • Faster internet
    • Different languages
    • SSD users
    • HDD users
    • Digital copies
    • Disc copies
    • Roleplayers
    • Streamers
    • Record breakers
    • Achievement hunters
    • Under 18s
    • Over 18s
  • NoFears Fun
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    @murkrage OK, Don't shoot the messenger, but you forgot the Elite Controller. I use one now and can honestly say it is much better than a standard controller for pretty much everything in game. It is still not as good as KB/M, but it is definitely better than the standard Controller.

    I will however say that you add a lot of situations that I don't think anyone cares about, such as using different input devices for the PvE portions of the game. I have not seen anyone complain about cross platform play for the PvE stuff. It seems it is always about the PvP and Crossplay.

    But for satirical point of view, since this is a satire post, you should really look at adding in the Elite Controller. And even more so, you need to add the two versions of Xbox with an SSD Drive since those load way faster than out of the box Xbox, and of course PC players with decent set ups that still prefer to use their controller (such as myself, lol)

  • KnifeLife
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    Oh god another one of these “Satires” lol.
    I’m just going to ignore the bait and try and answer serious.

    I think the problem is a lot of people who want crossplay don’t necessarily speak and share ideas with each other on how it could be implemented and improved.

    One reason is because as soon as a thread is open all discussion is stifled because the threads get bombarded with attacks and trolls which stop any actual conversation happening and it gets turnt into a people having to defend there view points rather than actually have a legitimate discussion on the subject matter.
    This post sums up some of the types of things we get.
    It’s highly frustrating and something I wish the moderators would step in and sort out as it doesn’t happen on other topics and people are actually allowed to engage in a conversation.

    But from all the people who I have managed to actually have a conversation with when I explain how I believe it should be implemented without actually segregating people based on there platform most agree. Not all but more than don’t.
    I’ve even had quite a few PC players agree to because you know what, most people just see us asking for crossplay as a personal attack on them for being on a PC which in the grand scheme of things is wrong. We just want what the PC players have, a fair chance at the game like you guys. Is it really so bad asking for abit Of equality in 2019?

    And I will admit some people do use crossplay an excuse to attack PC players, they call them all hackers and cheaters and quite frankly pull the conversation back 2 steps instead of helping bring it forward and find a solution which benefits everyone. Those people should be reported just as much as any other troll.

    Now while I’m sure some people are aware of my stance by now I will keep reiterating it but:

    No platform should ever be segrated on SoT... Ever!!! Simple as that

    We should just have optional input based matchmaking:
    3 Server Types:

    Default This would be exactly how servers are now everyone plays together.

    Controller A place where people on PC or Xbox can play with just controllers.

    K&M: A place where both platforms can use... you guessed it K&M.

    And the best part is with how the server merges work and the fact Xbox will be getting K&M people can’t say the servers will be empty. It’s just not true.

    The biggest complaint is close quarters combat, and even the majority of rational players will admit when it comes to gun play and CQC a controller is at a big disadvantage. We just want a choice to be able to play on a fair battleground.

    Guess I’ll see you all on the next thread.. have a good one :)

  • Ktingaling
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    @murkrage I think you forgot the different PC display settings.. If you play at 4k you can see your banana much better then when you play on poor settings.. xD

  • PirateCraggy
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    @murkrage

    Big one you have missed... all the different languages spoken.
    You'll need a different language version for each of what you've listed already as well ;)

    edit: ah good lad @TargasBR you had that covered!!

  • Murkrage
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    @targasbr said in [Satire] All the different types of servers we need:

    Also we need...

    • XBOX One
    • XBOX One S
    • XBOX One X
    • PCs with low end graphic specs
    • PCs with mid end graphic specs
    • PCs with high end graphic specs
    • Slower internet
    • Faster internet
    • Different languages
    • SSD users
    • HDD users
    • Digital copies
    • Disc copies
    • Roleplayers
    • Streamers
    • Record breakers
    • Achievement hunters
    • Under 18s
    • Over 18s

    @ktingaling said in [Satire] All the different types of servers we need:

    @murkrage I think you forgot the different PC display settings.. If you play at 4k you can see your banana much better then when you play on poor settings.. xD

    @piratecraggy said in [Satire] All the different types of servers we need:

    @murkrage

    Big one you have missed... all the different languages spoken.
    You'll need a different language version for each of what you've listed already as well.

    edit: ah good lad @TargasBR you had that covered!!

    I am glad some of you figured out that this was actual satire 😂. So long as everyone gets to play the way they want to on the same server, I am more than happy.

    @KnifeLife It is not 'another on of these satires', I have not even seen one on here yet. I appreciate your response, but in all honesty my entire post is meant as a jab at the abundance of posts we already have about this topic. I don't want another discussion here :)

    That said, even you (still talking to @KnifeLife) have to admit the posts are getting ridiculous. If people got their way, the Sea of Thieves would be segregated by all those things. I agree with you there only need to be 3 variations, but that's not what people are advocating for unfortunately. Plus, you have only taken into account the input method.

  • Murkrage
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    @nofears-fun said in [Satire] All the different types of servers we need:

    @murkrage OK, Don't shoot the messenger, but you forgot the Elite Controller. I use one now and can honestly say it is much better than a standard controller for pretty much everything in game. It is still not as good as KB/M, but it is definitely better than the standard Controller.

    I will however say that you add a lot of situations that I don't think anyone cares about, such as using different input devices for the PvE portions of the game. I have not seen anyone complain about cross platform play for the PvE stuff. It seems it is always about the PvP and Crossplay.

    But for satirical point of view, since this is a satire post, you should really look at adding in the Elite Controller. And even more so, you need to add the two versions of Xbox with an SSD Drive since those load way faster than out of the box Xbox, and of course PC players with decent set ups that still prefer to use their controller (such as myself, lol)

    Completely forgot about the Elite Controller. It really is a great controller and improves your ability to play tremendously!

  • Look Behind You
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    @murkrage Thread has been locked as, joking or not, it will likely invite negative reactions and arguments.

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