Simple, forceequip sword or perhaps knife, and only allow one powdergun. Sooo sooo tired of the doublegunning hitbox the size of a gorilla plus blunderbomb.
Make it possible to use sword in 3rd person, I would love a more duel aproach to sword and not just slash slash slash oh I got doublegunned through an object.
Just ideas, thank you.
@grymdraper said in Make everyone wear a sword and end doublegunning! Sword in 3rd person:
Simple, forceequip sword or perhaps knife, and only allow one powdergun. Sooo sooo tired of the doublegunning hitbox the size of a gorilla plus blunderbomb.
Make it possible to use sword in 3rd person, I would love a more duel aproach to sword and not just slash slash slash oh I got doublegunned through an object.
Just ideas, thank you.
It’s funny how this works. I play primarily with two guys who always use sword, while I always use double gun. I’m often complaining about swords tractor beam range while one of them often complains about double gunning.
Well here’s my take from someone who’s never really used sword in PvP: sometimes it feels like you’re hitting me from across the boat. Left click strong
Stand on the deck of the sloop, in front of the mast, facing the bell.
Slash the bell with your sword, note the little swipe and dust effect.
Take a step back, slash again.
Repeat until the swipe/dust effect doesn't happen.
Take a step forward juuust until it happens again pretty consistently.
Emote into a third person view.
Boom, you can now see the "range" of the sword, which for some reason is the length of a good spear. A hitbox the size of a gorilla, if you will.
All the weapons have strange balance but they still have balance. Forcing playstyles and taking agency away from the player (especially after 7 years of an existing system) is never a good idea. Let people use what they want, and adapt. I get by juuust fine with Sword/Eye of Reach or Sword/Throwing Knife. If you know what you're doing with sword leaps and lunges, it's a very maneuverable weapon!
And forcing people to have a throwing knife at all times? Even worse idea, that has the highest intended DPS/fastest TTK in the game, it's a monster if used right!
No way.
I have never understood the frustration with fighting opponents who use 2 guns. If your double-gunning opponent is handily beating you then it's a sign you either need to: move more strategically and/or remember to eat. Otherwise they are just more skilled, and an opponent being more skilled isn't exclusive to using guns. I just do not understand how people see it as some unfair advantage.
@i-marmot-i
Not so much about being unfair and more about how clunky it is and unenjoyable. I can also equip double gun but I don't play a pirate game because I want it to be Fortnite x)
@potatosord hard to duel against several enemies with sniper and pistol double gunning.
Things can change in this game, that's the whole approach since launch, free content updates and often those who scream the highest gets heard when it comes to balancing.
Game has changed a whole lot in 6/7 years.
Droppning masts and and fireballs wasn't there from launch but they still added it xD
Things change and nothing said 3rd person sword is impossible until devs say so.
@grymdraper sagte in Make everyone wear a sword and end doublegunning! Sword in 3rd person:
@potatosord hard to duel against several enemies with sniper and pistol double gunning.
Dueling several enemies is the important part, the weapons dont matter in that case.
You wont be able to kill 3 Sword Lords alone, the same goes for 3 dublegunners.
In those cases only the skill difference matters, not the weapon choice.
If youre way better then those 3 players then youll kill them no matter what and if they have the same skill level as you then youll loose no matter what weapons you use.
@grymdraper said in Make everyone wear a sword and end doublegunning! Sword in 3rd person:
@potatosord hard to duel against several enemies with sniper and pistol double gunning.
Things can change in this game, that's the whole approach since launch, free content updates and often those who scream the highest gets heard when it comes to balancing.
Game has changed a whole lot in 6/7 years.Droppning masts and and fireballs wasn't there from launch but they still added it xD
Things change and nothing said 3rd person sword is impossible until devs say so.
Wait, now you're concerned about balancing? LOL Let people use whatever weapons they want. Use what you like best, become a master at it, and let others do the same. Sword doesn't need 3rd party view as that wouldn't be fair to those who use other weapons. You know, gotta keep the game balanced for everyone XD
I just feel the pvp on land and ship is too hectic and unenjoyable. Just spam eating and bunny jumping.
I would love to see a more elegant approach where perhaps you have one shot and then a long reload time and more focus on sword duels.
I don't understand why you are getting mad about my ideas and opinions? xD
@dermasterbob
If the pvp was a little bit slower and if you stand against a 1v3 duel, you could perhaps by good swordplay outplay them. if they had one gun, and long reload time, missing a bullet forcing them to swap to sword making it a perhaps longer duel with more elegance.
Having sword go into 3rd person could allow players to have better sense of surrounding and also more visually enjoyable.
Right now it's [mod edit] with blunderboms, double gunning bunny hopping chaos xD
@grymdraper said in Make everyone wear a sword and end doublegunning! Sword in 3rd person:
@dermasterbob
If the pvp was a little bit slower and if you stand against a 1v3 duel, you could perhaps by good swordplay outplay them. if they had one gun, and long reload time, missing a bullet forcing them to swap to sword making it a perhaps longer duel with more elegance.Having sword go into 3rd person could allow players to have better sense of surrounding and also more visually enjoyable.
Right now it's [mod edit] with blunderboms, double gunning bunny hopping chaos xD
I get killed by sword all of the time. Nerf sword.
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@capt-greldik
Please stay on subject of create own thread.
If you would like swords to be nerfed, pls create a thread about it.
I don't understand what you are referring to... It's hard when you don't specify....
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@grymdraper said in Make everyone wear a sword and end doublegunning! Sword in 3rd person:
@capt-greldik
Please stay on subject of create own thread.
If you would like swords to be nerfed, pls create a thread about it.
You’re talking about nerfing double gun because you think it’s op. Discussing swords capabilities is entirely relevant to this topic.
@grymdraper said in Make everyone wear a sword and end doublegunning! Sword in 3rd person:
@capt-greldik
Your comment had no substance and contributes Nothing to the conversation.
Whatever you say.
This post and others you have going on in this forum are not something new for most of the guys here. Time and time again we have discussed double gunning, bot crews etc; and that is fine, this what the forum is for... Yet when you go after each and every one expressing their thoughts on the matter, seems like you are not open to a public discussion.
Now I might be wrong but the idea is to convince members in the forums that your solution is sound, with the hope that someone from the dev team will eventually pay attention...Right? Well I don't think you will persuade many this way.
@grymdraper hard to duel against several enemies with swords and mouse 1 spamming.
Things can change in this game, that's the whole approach since launch, free content updates and often those who scream the highest gets heard when it comes to balancing.
Game has changed a whole lot in 6/7 years.
Droppning masts and and fireballs wasn't there from launch but they still added it xD
Things change and nothing said 3rd person sword is impossible until devs say so.
@grymdraper
If hand to hand PvP was a little bit slower, people with 5 Pineapples, Krakenmeat, Megmeat would be truly invincible, so thats not going to happen. That idea would cause more problems than you think, even if you leave the "tools not rules" aside.
And even if that change would happen, youre still not going to win a 1v3 if the players have the same skill level, same skill level means no outplaying possible, at least not against 3 people at once (especially with swords).
The 3rd person idea is ridiculus btw., the sword is a strong weapon if you know how to use it properly, it definetly doesnt need a buff.
Bunny hopping is also a funny point.
You know what one of the main strategies in sword vs. sword is?
Its block hopping around untill someone gets hit.
Or the swordlunge + jump.
