i know the PVP in this game isn't the greatest but how can they expect the players to have fun if occasionally there will be someone else that enters the arena. for instance today and the reason i am making this post is because i loaded into a matchmade game with someone that had an alliance flag up along with being with the gardians of fortune. then there was a guy waiting on a near by island waiting for him someone to dive on him so they could double team who ever joined. i am not the greatest player in the world so it is kind of irritating to sea that this kind of thing can happen and almost doesnt make me want to even try playing the pvp again. i wish i had gotten both of there names so i could report them but they as i was sinking they were in game chat acting like this was a normal thing for them to be doing andd that he can take half the resources and to go wait back by the closest island.
double teaming in pvp
@ogie318 Its an unfortunate situation but in my total 137 levels across Reapers and Athena I've only encountered it once in hourglass. You just get unlucky. I get very unlucky differently and one could argue as/more frustrating ways. If it was me I'd just aim for the guy you are opponents with and fully focus them. Get them out you get the XP for killing them then just run away from the other guy if they follow. I make it sound easy it isn't but if you were around when Arena was here then you'd get a great understand of how to deal with multiple enemies.
They wanted the fight to happen in random adventure with the chance of 3rd party situations
but with that being said it rarely happens unless the fight goes on forever, even then a lot of times nobody else shows up
What I don't know is if HG is affected by the same bug as raids have, because raids have been terrible about putting players right next to each other.
@ogie318 said in double teaming in pvp:
i know the PVP in this game isn't the greatest but how can they expect the players to have fun if occasionally there will be someone else that enters the arena. for instance today and the reason i am making this post is because i loaded into a matchmade game with someone that had an alliance flag up along with being with the gardians of fortune. then there was a guy waiting on a near by island waiting for him someone to dive on him so they could double team who ever joined. i am not the greatest player in the world so it is kind of irritating to sea that this kind of thing can happen and almost doesnt make me want to even try playing the pvp again. i wish i had gotten both of there names so i could report them but they as i was sinking they were in game chat acting like this was a normal thing for them to be doing andd that he can take half the resources and to go wait back by the closest island.
Perhaps because they feel that the occasional double team isn't enough to ruin everyone's fun?
Wish i had gotten both of there names so i could report them
For what....
kind of irritating to sea that this kind of thing can happen
You mean, its annoying for you to fight one ship and others to also join? In an Open World Pvpve??
almost doesnt make me want to even try playing the pvp again
You say that but you cant escape it, Its part of the game and it will always happen.
acting like this was a normal thing for them to be doing
Its Normal. Also at this point (and Date time) April Fools it seems :P
Regarding if its not, HourGlass is not a Mode nor does it put you in a separate area. You are still within the world of Adventure. The fog can move in, Storm torments you, Meg & Skeleton can surface. Heck you can even dive on someone doing a Fort/World Event. That is Normal and a third/fourth ship joining the battle is Normal, because it still treated as if you just sailed up on a ship and begun.
HourGlass is a Tool for PvP on Demand.@burnbacon said in double teaming in pvp:
Wish i had gotten both of there names so i could report them
For what....
kind of irritating to sea that this kind of thing can happen
You mean, its annoying for you to fight one ship and others to also join? In an Open World Pvpve??
almost doesnt make me want to even try playing the pvp again
You say that but you cant escape it, Its part of the game and it will always happen.
acting like this was a normal thing for them to be doing
Its Normal. Also at this point (and Date time) April Fools it seems :P
Regarding if its not, HourGlass is not a Mode nor does it put you in a separate area. You are still within the world of Adventure. The fog can move in, Storm torments you, Meg & Skeleton can surface. Heck you can even dive on someone doing a Fort/World Event. That is Normal and a third/fourth ship joining the battle is Normal, because it still treated as if you just sailed up on a ship and begun.
HourGlass is a Tool for PvP on Demand.While 3rd partying is as how you described not reportable and what the devs don't oppose, it's different from what the OP describes such as when an ambush with one or more ships is set up. From https://support.seaofthieves.com/articles/360015285919-Sea-of-Thieves-Pirate-Code-and-Community-Code-of-Conduct :
Activities such as teaming or boosting to gain an advantage over other players in competitive game modes may also result in enforcement action.
They did put a stop on having other ships close by to gain an advantage when a ship invaded, guess they'll have to tigthen the restrictions some more and educate people better on what's allowed so desinformation can be stopped...
When are they coming for alliance servers tho? Or is that okay because it's not competitive.
They aren't boosting. The ship defending still has to not sink. The 2nd ship doesn't get HG xp either. More than likely had to talk someone I to doing it, which is player interaction, something the devs try to encourage. Do you know how they met up and decided to do HG? May have been a 3rd party that just stuck around.
With that logic all the TDM folks from arena days should have been banned too...@pithyrumble said in double teaming in pvp:
When are they coming for alliance servers tho? Or is that okay because it's not competitive.
When they think it's impacting the game too much ? I am not OK with alliance servers BTW.
They aren't boosting.
They are teaming :).
The ship defending still has to not sink. The 2nd ship doesn't get HG xp either.
If they switch it around getting wins (and possibly large streaks) in this way, and only getting allegiance half the time is probably faster than doing HG in a fair way.
More than likely had to talk someone I to doing it, which is player interaction, something the devs try to encourage. Do you know how they met up and decided to do HG? May have been a 3rd party that just stuck around.
I wasn't there, so I don't know for sure, but going by the language of the OP ...
they were in game chat acting like this was a normal thing for them to be doing
With that logic all the TDM folks from arena days should have been banned too...
There was certainly a lot of cheesing going on there.
So if I were to have the reaper mark on, set up an alliance ship nearby and wait for someone to sail toward me. Both ships attack this “unsuspecting” ship.
That is boosting/teaming and it’s reportable.
Heck then you might as well report every pvp encounter.
Last I heard about this was. Rare didn’t see a problem with third party ships joining regardless if they were alliances. It happens outside of hourglass all the time.
They invaded me. I just came prepared better xD
@burnbacon said in double teaming in pvp:
So if I were to have the reaper mark on, set up an alliance ship nearby and wait for someone to sail toward me. Both ships attack this “unsuspecting” ship.
That is boosting/teaming and it’s reportable.
Read what I quoted from the SoT website: in competitive game modes, so your reaper's mark example wouldn't fall under it or any trap you make for people on your server outside of HG.
Heck then you might as well report every pvp encounter.
Hyperbole and totally not what could be construed from my post.
Last I heard about this was. Rare didn’t see a problem with third party ships joining regardless if they were alliances. It happens outside of hourglass all the time.
They invaded me. I just came prepared better xD
Did they say specify the regardless bit or did you make that up / infer it ?
They have hard coded that you can't be invaded with other ships in nearby area but it seems the lengths some people go to get a win can be ridiculous. Its not common, I get third partied from time to time but they don't get credit for sink so it's usually just people after flag/supps which is a part of adventure.
They aren't boosting. The ship defending still has to not sink. The 2nd ship doesn't get HG xp either... May have been a 3rd party that just stuck around.
Rule also says "teaming" in a competitive mode to gain an advantage.
If it was an organic 3rd party interaction then that obviously doesn't apply, does it?
People may still feel aggrieved and may still file reports, but if Rare investigates and finds out the two sides weren't teaming, then there's nothing to worry about.
With that logic all the TDM folks from arena days should have been banned too...
Again, rule says teaming to gain an advantage.
If I'm trying to kill an opposing team with pistol and snipers, am I teaming with them or am I competing against them?
Not to mention that attempting to win via TDM was probably less efficient than running the chest. People who actually tried to win went the naval route. Even in sloop, meta was to hold the chest and naval, playing keep-away with it.
Unless you meant when TDMers retaliated against people interrupting their TDM, thus "teaming," but even still, I don't know how this would result in gaining an advantage over the interrupting crew. A meager 10 points at a time while locking down your ship is nothing advantageous.
When it happened in TDMs I partook in, I always volunteered my crew to deal with the interrupting party while the other TDM crews continued to have fun. And this was pretty common practice. One crew would babysit while the others TDMed.
If I had a gold coin for every time I was threatened to be reported, I'd buy a trinket. Never had a yellowbeard on my main or any alts. 🏴☠️
