The Pirate Emporium vs. Current Development Issues

Something important to keep in mind about the emporium is that it's about as low pressure as it gets. Not needed to play every part of the game, other than some social media advertisements it's not really much of anything other than just an option if people want it.

Their commitment to keeping it that way is a pretty big deal, even though it feels (and is) pretty costly in there.

To me I'm much more focused on how they sell stuff rather than how often they update it.

At 5+ years in with the kind of deals they make it's gonna cost quite a bit and cost is what will take out a live service game over anything else.

If they gotta do it they gotta do it, as long as they keep it fair and honest it is what it is to keep this thing going.

@nex-stargaze said in The Pirate Emporium vs. Current Development Issues:

@tesiccl said in The Pirate Emporium vs. Current Development Issues:

Because they’re making money ≠ content should be bountiful.

It's less so money to be made, but more so production efficiency.

We see a new Emporium set every month while (insiders out of the equation) it's a complete toss up what the next month brings to the Outpost shops.

And this is without even daring to mention the game's current issues or potential issues down the line. Too many people are unfairly pointing at the Emporium while calling out the developers for not reporting/producing improvements. With their best responses are giving us the "dude, trust" treatment.

I don't want to be unfair to the developers here because there's a very high chance they're working on things and making good improvements, but these tongue-held responses frustrate players beyond all belief because no one knows when the game is going to get better.

There are ongoing issues with lag/rubberbanding/bugs/etc but they improve things regularly around the game as a whole.

I see it all the time because I still do everything, lots of pve, strongly connected to the organic environment so I keep up on what others are doing/experiencing on the servers.

Improvements definitely happen. Not as big of a deal to content creation and pvp focused players but the game is designed for the organic pve/pvp experience so the pve improvements are very relevant.

The deal is that most of the people that do most of the talking really aren't playing the game as it was designed, there is nothing wrong with that but the feedback is super focused on only part of the experience and product. The social part of it turns issues into much bigger issues than they are, influencers influence and it spreads.

@nex-stargaze said in The Pirate Emporium vs. Current Development Issues:

@wolfmanbush said in The Pirate Emporium vs. Current Development Issues:

The deal is that most of the people that do most of the talking really aren't playing the game as it was designed, there is nothing wrong with that but the feedback is super focused on only part of the experience and product. The social part of it turns issues into much bigger issues than they are, influencers influence and it spreads.

I'd argue that this time, it's much more widespread than people who "don't play the game as it was designed". You can call it burn out, you can call it naivety, but when your game has growing issues for 7 months and the most that can be said is "we're working on it", while the end result is something, but not substantial enough to be acceptable, someone has to start asking questions and pointing fingers. Conclusions need to be made, and genuinely REAL answers need to be given.

I'm a loser that doesn't want to play this game without crew, and I'm experiencing serious issues that come from "playing the game as it was designed" while having good enough hardware to run the game and a solid ethernet connection to boot. I'm not gonna act like this doom speak is worth ignoring because it was said by someone with a following larger than 8 friends, especially when I share a similar sentiment with (glass half-empty mindset) negative following of their amounts.

what real answers are there to give? people pushed and pushed for something with cheating and we got what we already knew and people dismissed it/criticized it even though it's the reality of what is going on

this really isn't much different. They work on it, they try to maintain it to at least serve casual play (which it does) and there will be issues and they will try to improve on the issues.

In the social areas people talk about quitting for months and don't quit

they call it unplayable and play hours and hours a day

it's broken but it works enough for them to play because they keep playing

Is the feedback valid? 100% and they treat it as valid feedback but at the end of the day it is what it is. It's good enough for many, not enough for some and that's how it's always been. It's definitely playable and without pressure to buy stuff, the only real major difference is there is more stuff to do now through the frustrations/issues. There are far more people participating organically which makes "the worst it's ever been" far better than it's actually ever been because of that organic play.

A lot of times in life making the best out of what exists really is all there is to work with. That's often true in this game as well.

@nex-stargaze said in The Pirate Emporium vs. Current Development Issues:

@wolfmanbush said in The Pirate Emporium vs. Current Development Issues:

what real answers are there to give? people pushed and pushed for something with cheating and we got what we already knew and people dismissed it/criticized it even though it's the reality of what is going on

By real answers, I want them to speak on what in Ramsey's name is happening in their offices, I want them to be honest about the progress they make per week. I want them to break their company NDA and stop us from making our own awful conclusions on their development efforts.

They should be as honest about their work as we are about how we play and enjoy this game. Those are the kinds of REAL answers that are sought out. I'm tired of people being villainized for answers we might never get as unresolved issues increase and [mod edit]

The social areas shouldn't be ignored because the people not there are complacent, that's just a wild way to discredit people who, regardless of the way they play, actually get knee deep into the issues by proxy or just by general experience.

Not everything can be ignored by doing PvE and waiting to be attacked.

I don't comment on people's personal matters or talk about individuals specifically that are not here. That's always been my thing here so I won't say anything about that.

This was a discussion about the emporium and server/game performance.

I don't think people are complaining about the Emporium itself, anyone with a brain knows video games these days are ''required'' to have some type of in game micro-transaction purchase.

Long gone are the days where you buy the game once and everything is in it already.
Developers keep games updated after launch, hence they need their weekly paycheck to support this, so hence born in game purchasable cosmetics (For real money)

I don't think players are complaining about the Emporium itself MORESO the fact it seems to be the only ''content'' that seems to be the most consistent on hitting deadlines without fail.
Hence the memes/hate that RARE only care about the money and not the players.

Their recent update was a positive step in releasing more outpost cosmetics, wow, now let's see them upkeep that monthly alongside the emporium or if it was just a one time thing.