Option to have both a male and female pirate?

Honestly, i just want the ability to have multiple pirates, i dont care if they are seperate characters with their own progress, or if progress is saved. If there was some way, even a few ancient coins, if i could have a seperate character slot, i would be happy. I do still miss my original pirate some after using a potion, but i would love to have another, perhaps it could be 3 slots max.

i like more inmersion more inmersion is always welcome

I would love it. I usually play both a male and female character if possible in a game, mostly just because of variation.

@countrazzore
I like this idea!

Along with it, I'd like a full range of female sound effects for female pirates... They only recently made reviving a female pirate make the correct sound (that or I'm an idiot).

I cringe when my mom/sister play and every sound they make (drowning/getting sick/coughing/etc) is the male sfx. This game has run on too long to have such an issue.

@magus104 said in Option to have both a male and female pirate?:

I am not sure if the limitation of 1 pirate has anything to do with this but... My theory anyway is that its about metrics.

Since sea of thieves is essentially a free to play game if you have gamepass they have no way of tracking stuff like "copies sold" for example which companies love to brag about. So when Rare throws up a number like "35 million players" this is unique players since you can only have 1 pirate per account so in theory that's 35 million different people who have played the game.

Giving people the ability to have more then one character in a game does not make it harder for the company to know how many players (or rather, xbox libraries) are logging onto their game.

It's like players having multiple ships doesn't confuse the gaming company. Characters and items are attached to a player's account. The amount they have doesn't change that it is still that one account that is logging into the game from xbox in the end. It doesn't matter if players have 1 pirate or 30 pirates. Rare knows how many xbox player accounts are logging into the game at any point in time. What happens to be attached to the player account, be it the number of cosmetics, ships, character figures, what have you, doesn't change that or make that any more difficult for Rare to count player accounts.

If ANYTHING, allowing more characters might even make it easier, as it is possible that the people who make multiple accounts so as to have access to multiple characters may go down as they are able to have more characters on their main account rather then having to make alts xbox library accounts to be able to have them.

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Edit: Also, This. Right. Here.
@wolfmanbush said in Option to have both a male and female pirate?:

Being inclusive in a immersive video game based around cosmetics is two parts, being welcoming and then serving those that have decided to participate through consistent quality of life improvements.
The process of being inclusive in this environment is just serving those that play the game. Taking in feedback and preferences from different participants, seeing what can be done to ensure that the opportunity goes beyond just being welcomed and that people are also being served while they stay.
It's not a matter of special treatment it's a matter of consistent service to all as we grow and improve and offer more options.

Diversity of the world population exists, and always have. Diversity with the player base naturally exists too. Games reflecting that with characters and options is logical. People who have problems with it need to get over themselves and realize that more people in the world exist then them. And hay, maybe they might actually play the same games that person does. Go figure.

Whining that adding options and things to games that reflect the broader playerbase is somehow 'special treatment' is very much like a child who cries over having to share a cake with a group of people that they somehow selfishly thought should only belong to themselves.

@faceyourdemon

If there's no need for them to bring up "inclusivity", is there any real need for you to complain about them bringing up inclusivity? Like, it seems that you agree that the idea is good, or at least fine or unworthy of debating the negative, right? So, why?

Society - "We're going to start making doorways wider!"
You - "Oh, great! That will make moving furniture and whatnot easier and make things feel more open!"
Society - "We're making doorways wider to aid people with disabilities."
You - "Why'd you have to bring them into it. Now I'm mad."

Such an odd response. If you like the idea, voice that. If you dislike it, voice your dissent. You disagreeing with OP's reason for why it might be good but still thinking the idea is good...just kind of unnecessary, yeah? Obviously it's a free forum and you can say whatever you want (within reason), but, like, why? What's the point? "I agree with you, but not like that." Cool? Glad we've established that having multiple characters is ok but NOT because of any inclusivity. Odin forbid OP "Virtue-signal" with once sentence of "also this would be good for this group."

@faceyourdemon
"Catering to them too much" by doing an idea that you think is good for everyone, which isn't specific to LGBTQ+ community, because they also mentioned LGBTQ+? Actually didn't even really mention that, just said "also inclusive for players that have dissonance with their identities".

"Won't someone please think of the straights?!" Like, come on. Focusing on LGBTQ+ doesn't mean that other people don't deal with stuff. It just really means that in general very rarely do people deal with anything for being straight. I won't say never, because sometimes weird stuff happens, however pretty much since the dawn of humanity there has never been an active societal persecution of people for being straight. Issues that people who are straight might deal with are depression, poverty, discrimination based on disability, societal pressure to be tall or pretty or handsome or fit or thin or whatever, cultural pressures, etc etc etc. But what do we do with those issues? We focus on those issues individually because people who are experiencing them require help with those particular issues.

Biblically there's the story of the 100 sheep and the Lord goes to rescue the 1 who has strayed away from the herd. Returning it's asked does he love the other 99 sheep less because he focused attention on the 1? NO! He focused on the one because it was in danger. And while things have gotten better for LGBTQ+ people in my home country of the U.S. for the most part, that's not true everywhere and not even true throughout my entire country. So we can address certain things towards the LGBTQ+ community because they need protecting, they need validation (not validation as to that individuals require people to validate them, but that the community needs to be shown to be valid by influential things like corporations, governments, etc to say "yes, you exist and are valid"). Do straight people face things that put them in danger? YES. But not for being straight (in general, I know there are probably fringe cases, but we are talking societally). So we focus on the issues that put people in danger; physically, emotionally, societally. If we do things that are meant to uplift people in poverty, is it fair for people making $200,000 a year to say "Hey, what about us! Shouldn't we get something?" Not really, because they aren't experiencing the ill-effects of poverty. If a building puts a ramp in for people who use wheelchairs, do the walking people say "Hey, what about something for me! I deserve something too!" NO! Because they aren't in need of any aid in accessing the building (again, generally). It's about equity and protecting those and aiding those who need help for the thing that they need help with.

If you think LGBTQ+ people are being "catered to" too much, do some good honest research (not Infowars or Steven Crowder or that hack Jordan Peterson). You'll soon see from actual reputable research that there are still many dangers that come just from being part of the LGBTQ+ community that are simply not part of everyday life for the "straights". And maybe you won't feel so "left out" when someone does something for a marginalized group.

Can everyone stop being phobic… if anything, THAT is the unnecessary thing going on here. Let people have their cake and eat it. People are people and it puts a smile of the faces of those who have representation in a game, regardless of it it’s a second character or a gay NPC. If your stomach turns when you see something like that and you call it “special treatment”, perhaps you should think through history about how much “special treatment” people got for being who they are, physically or mentally. The special treatment of hate crimes, slavery, unfair laws, etc.

Let people be happy. Don’t start fuss. Everyone will smile.

If a person really didn't have an issue, then they wouldn't be in a forum complaining about the concept of things existing in a game that would reflect the wide range of that game's own player base.

It's like somebody complaining about the concept that a buffet might happen to offer more meal options for the different people that go to eat at that buffet rather then catering to only one select group of their customers. 'Oh how dare buffets expand their menu options. the horrors.'

Let things in games exist. Let games have things for the wide range of players who play it, rather then just one set group, let people have nice things, even if it doesn't happen to interest you in particular, get over and drop it.

I want to be surprised that a rather phobic gripe showed up on a pretty basic thread of 'hay can I have more characters on my account', but unfortunately, I'm not.

One of my buddies just changed his main game pirate to a female pirate, he misses his OG pirate but loves the new pirate with all the cosmetic options that look good on his new pirate. One of the only reasons he changed though is because one of HIS buddies has a pirate that's literally nearly identical to his old pirate. It definitely seems like a lot of people would make use out of such a feature.

An additional benefit would be for streamers to be able to have a pirate to play as to be more incognito since many of them have such recognizable pirates. I think having as many pirates as you can have ships would cheapen them at a certain point and not allow you to feel a connection with them, hence why I only suggest 2 slots for pirates. I also agree with the sentiment that it could be a purchasable feature from the Emporium. (some people might not like that) I would pay as much as I would for a full ship set for the option to have an additional pirate.