@d3adst1ck said in Aimbot, ESP, Invisibility:
Without video and a report via support ticket, nothing is going to happen.
Not sure what "one boarded our ship and anchored us but didn't appear on the map at all" means - players don't appear on the map, only ships do. There isn't a way to remove your ship from the map without losing the flag. This is controlled server side.
The description of invisibility (e.g. he was literally vanishing and appearing on our screen) sounds a lot like lag or desync which is pretty common. Even the guy "admitting" to cheating isn't very good evidence because players will say they are cheating when accused by salty players just to make them angrier.
You need to record and submit reports if you want action. Hearsay is pretty hard to verify, and starting a thread on the forums isn't going to go anywhere without proof.
^ This, all of this.
I know I get angry, but speaking as a former admin for one of the larger TF2 clans back in the day; We got 10-15 (Upwards of 25-30 on busy days) 'He's HACKING' reports from salty players a day.
Only 1 in 40 actually had someone being even slightly questionable.
The rest were either lag, or the reporter just angry they lost.
Of course, it did not help that one of our own admins was a Sniper-player with more than enough skill enough to go pro. I tried to out-snipe him a few times and, even knowing he was legit, it felt like he was aimbotting. Rofl.
But 99% of it was me being predictable and slow to react.
Same thing applies here; Most 'HE'S CHEATING!' reactions are just players fooling themselves (It's very easy, and VERY common, for a person to trick themselves and alter their own memories of an event. The fish that got away always seems to get bigger with time) and being convinced they could not have possibly lose in the situation where they just lost.
I'll give another example: A frequent player on our servers once submitted a report, with video evidence, that he was killed by someone aimbotting and god-modding.
He was adamant that he shot first, headshot the guy, and the guy did not die. The guy then snap-aimed at him and headshot him.
Sounded pretty fishy!
But...the video submitted did not show the complainer shoot at all. It also showed him take time to line up a shot, in the open, and just get shot first. An easy target for even a new player to hit.
Nope! When we actually took the complainer aside and reviewed the video WITH HIM ON CALL (He was VERY insistent the guy was cheating); He insisted his story was right and the hacker had somehow altered the server to make it record something that never happened.
This dude was so convinced of the truth he had created in his own head that he flat-out rejected the evidence he himself had recorded.
I'll stop rambling but, as an admin, I learned to step back and ask myself if what just happened has ANY explanation other than 'He cheated'.
If yes: They probably did not cheat.
That's not to say cheating does not happen. It's just not as common as people think. I mean, think about it; Either:
- Cheaters get bored and stop cheating, because there's no challenge.
- They get reported enough times to get banned.
- The anti-cheat gets updated and picks up whatever they are using, and they get banned.
In the case of 2 and 3; most cheaters won't buy another copy of a game just to cheat again and get banned, again, and have to buy the game for a third time.
This is also why cheating is more rampant in free2play games, and why I stopped adminning when TF2 went free2play; It became impossible to permaban script-kiddies and racists from our servers. They'd just make a new steam account and come back.
