@Rare Private Servers When?

@mistersir91 Never

Most coming at some point is private session where you can invite someone, but they're mostly used for community events so.. as Rare says you earn no gold, no rep, pretty much can't do anything but sail.

The game is PvEvP, none of us have the luxury of just being guaranteed to play and enjoy PvE without the potential for someone to engage us. It's a core concept of the game.

@hombre said in @Rare Private Servers When?:

@tre-oni said in @Rare Private Servers When?:

@mistersir91 Never

Most coming at some point is private session

Oh.... I thought that's what they were asking about. Are 'servers' different from 'sessions'?

May just be arguing semantics over specific wording, but

The implications behind private servers vs the private/custom sessions are usually just different.

Private servers come with the expectation of loading up a server with just you and your group, and can play like regular. Earn rep, gold, cosmetics, etc.. some people even say it could just be a different mode where you earn separate gold rep and rewards, and we know none of that is happening

The reality is the custom sessions (can still be considered private, since they'd be invite only) aren't really the game.. they'd be a barebones experience of the game, you earn nothing, and you can really only sail around since they're main utility is for community created events, or content.

@hombre said in @Rare Private Servers When?:

@tre-oni

Yeah, reading back through, the OP wasn't too specific with what they meant. I assumed they were just talking about what Rare has already discussed.

Has Rare clarified at all on what the private sessions will include? I know there's no progression, but will stuff like forts, sea monsters, and skellie ships still occur?

Not much.

In their most recent podcast Joe just mentioned no progression casually, as he transitioned into saying the core of the game is the shared world aspect, and thats their core concept they wont compromise

@luciansanchez82 dijo en @Rare Private Servers When?:

@mistersir91 never, I'm afraid.

Sea Of Thieves is a shared world adventure. Other players make up the threat, challenge, and frankly, are ultimately the point of this game.

That was a necessity in the release because the initial content was lackluster but that's not the case actually, Sea of Thieves has now enough PvE content to satisfy the crowd that doesn't enjoy the PvP side of the game.

This game needs a singleplayer mode, a coop only mode (private servers or not), with full progression, who really cares?, this game has not competitive mode and cosmetics or commendations don't give any edge. Even games with a real progression like Elite Dangerous have a solo mode and nobody lost his/her sanity about it.

I can't understand why the devs are being so stubborn about this, give players options, now you can unlike at release.

@lobofh said in @Rare Private Servers When?:

@luciansanchez82 dijo en @Rare Private Servers When?:

@mistersir91 never, I'm afraid.

Sea Of Thieves is a shared world adventure. Other players make up the threat, challenge, and frankly, are ultimately the point of this game.

That was a necessity in the release because the initial content was lackluster but that's not the case actually, Sea of Thieves has now enough PvE content to satisfy the crowd that doesn't enjoy the PvP side of the game.

This game needs a singleplayer mode, a coop only mode (private servers or not), with full progression, who really cares?, this game has not competitive mode and cosmetics or commendations don't give any edge. Even games with a real progression like Elite Dangerous have a solo mode and nobody lost his/her sanity about it.

I can't understand why the devs are being so stubborn about this, give players options, now you can unlike at release.

Because it's not the core of the game. They're not doing it, simple.

It's not anyone else's fault but the people complaining that after 3 years of being told constantly by Rare, that they still can't come to terms, or understand that fact.

Podcast as recent as a month ago has Joe Neate explaining they're not compromising on their core. Shared World Adventure Game. PvEvP. It's fundamental to them, and it's going nowhere. Most anyone gets is an absolutely zero progress custom server tool.

The game is 100% intended to be PvEvP, and they're keeping it that way.

That game doesn't NEED PvE only, it needs people who are capable of informing themselves of a product they're buying, and acknowledging that they aren't going to be able to force the devs to change their core design and intention because they didn't like it.

Now.. release.. no different. Irrelevant in regards to pushing PvE servers. Its not part of the concept of the game as a whole.

@tre-oni not compromising in their core, fine, it doesn't mean they are right. Perhaps they don't trust in the product?, perhaps they think that if they do this the PVP Lords lose their "farms"?

SoT PvP is very fun and there will still be tons of players playing this way, but there is room for other ways to enjoy this game, like the new update shows.

@lobofh

there is a post about Rare's thoughts on PvPvE (including a link to the most recent Sea of Thieves Podcast that discusses it) here: https://www.seaofthieves.com/community/forums/topic/136693/pvpve-the-team-s-thoughts/1

You can read an article by Joe here here in regards to Private/Custom Servers.

There is also a thread for discussion of Custom servers here, please post your thoughts and feedback there.

@deckhands if you would do the honors?

@lobofh said in @Rare Private Servers When?:

@tre-oni not compromising in their core, fine, it doesn't mean they are right. Perhaps they don't trust in the product?

Why is this always the thought process for PvE only advocates?

You're the one who's wrong if you think that way.

They designed their product a specific way. Its intentional. Its supposed to be that way. You not liking it doesn't make them wrong. It's literally their creation, and it was created this way, and they've never been misleading about it.

Seems to me they actually have faith in the product. Unrelenting and uncompromising on their vision in the face of all these randoms who come in to tell them they're wrong with their vision and concept...

Some things just aren't for some people. If you're not okay with the core concept of something.. buying it and complaining for change is a personal problem, and doesn't make whoever made the product wrong.

Yeah, a thread where nobody can discuss.

@tre-oni , they designed their product a specific way?, more like they released an Early Access alpha with no content and PvPvE only was the unique way to fill the gaps. Me not liking it make them totally wrong, for your info...this doesn't mean they must change it, just adding some feedback.

Anyways, it looks like it's a hot topic that can't be discussed with closed megathreads and users calling for moderation reinforcements and all that jazz so I will leave it here, have fun with the new update.

@lobofh because it has been discussed and Rare have spoken out about it.

if you would read what the Rare Employee actually says you would know all there is to know about their standing on the issue